Posts by Luuklag

21) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Rosetta version 5.93 (Message 50576)
Posted 11 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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and another 2 errors

the second one didn't eaven start, it said maximum disk usage exceeded, but the next task just started fine, so im like WTF :O ?!?!?!
and the first errored out because of sin / cosin out of range

1
2

the last few days i had 6 errors and only 1 succes almost all on the tasks like "mlt__BOINC_TWIST_RINGS_TWIST_ANGLE_SYMM_FOLD_AND_DOCK_RELAX-2mlt_-crystal_foldanddock"
anyone has an idea what going on, would like some1 explaining this.
22) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Word Link 12 (Message 50570)
Posted 11 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
boobs
Lucy
Snoopy
charlie brown
cinderella

Snow White
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Last posts from Word Link 11

The Little White Bird

peter pan

books of fairy tales





23) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Rosetta version 5.93 (Message 50550)
Posted 10 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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im running a 9.93 task, boinc twist rings etc etc. but now when i look at the grpahics there is no image in the box searching nor in the box accepted nor in low energy, the only image showed is that of native.

for the rest it is running normaly.
dragging around in the boxes dousn't gets the vieuw back, and restarting the graphics also gives no result.

for screes mail me
[edit]

ok it triggered the debugger now, after more then 2 hours


error
24) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Boinc/Rosetta on the Xbox 360? (Message 50546)
Posted 10 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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until the issue is decided in a court, there is no "absolute" answer.

microsoft would likely agree with your statement.

free60 would likely disagree with your statement.


now the question is, who wants to spend a whole bunch of time and money, to determine who is correct?

a boinc project that is considering the use of a gaming console? probably not.


thus, one more reason why the sony ps/3 would be a better choice among gaming consoles for use as a cruncher.


well the ps3 is ofc. a nice platform, but if we wait for this trial and the outcome is that microsoft is wrong. then it would mean we could do this, and then i dont think you have to make a lot of changes, run linux on your 360 and then install boinc under linux.
25) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Last one to post here wins part 3 (Message 50540)
Posted 10 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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my guerilla's all have 1 chromosome for that diseas that defors your red blood cells, in dutch it is (cikelcelanemie), dunno what it is in english, this way the musquito's dont form a problem:)
26) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Word Link 12 (Message 50539)
Posted 10 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
cinderella

Snow White
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Last posts from Word Link 11

The Little White Bird

peter pan

books of fairy tales

27) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Boinc/Rosetta on the Xbox 360? (Message 50538)
Posted 10 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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to summarise, correct me if im wrong, im the 16 yo here :P

microsoft has copyright of the OS of the xbox, and copyright of the xbox that only microsoft's OS can be used. so installing another OS is violating copyright laws.

oh no?

Dmitry Sklyarov

none of the things you mentioned are illegal.

28) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Rosetta & Parallelization (gaming consoles) (Message 50534)
Posted 10 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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so the code that they have written, could also be use to use all cpu's of a ps3 parallel. cause that code is already written. so just the porting over keeps as a problem.

Who paid the "costs" of answering the question if Rosetta could be adapted to the Boinc platform? Were the benefits (60 tflops) worth the costs?

How much "cost" is honestly involved in answering the following questions, in terms of a generalized, order-of-magnitude, response (not a response that requires precision to 1 x 10^-10, or to the penny)?

Does not the University of Washington have a Computer Science department? Could not those resources also be utilized, for answering questions?

Would it take 200 hours of "cost" to determine if the Rosetta code could / should be ported over to a Timex / Sinclair? A Commodore Vic 20? An Apple ][+ ? An intel 386? An intel 486? An intel pentium? An intel quadcore? A Cell BE?

Sometimes a "quick-and-dirty" answer can be just as valuable, if not moreso, than a 200-hour answer.


(1) Given that the Project, iirc, has already had preliminary discussions with Sony, is the size of the PS/3's on-board memory a limiting factor so as to prevent the Rosetta code from running on this hardware? Yes or no?

(2) In a generalized, order-of-magnitude, response: What is the point at which the Project will consider the expenditure of resources justified in porting Rosie to PS/3? 60 tflops? 600 tflops? 6 pflops?


(3) Given the below, in general terms (based upon the below experience), approximately, in an order of magnitude response, how much effort to port existing parallel Rosie code to spe's of the PS/3, given that Rosie sequential code was ALREADY converted to parallel for the IBM supercomputer? 20 hours? 200 hours? 2000 hours?

For example, how was this possible?

"When David Baker, who also serves as a principal investigator for Howard Hughes Medical Institute, originally developed the code, it had to be run in serial - broken into manageable amounts of data, with each portion calculated in series, one after another.

Through a research collaboration, SDSC's expertise and supercomputing resources helped modify the Rosetta code to run in parallel on SDSC's massive supercomputers, dramatically speeding processing, and providing a testing ground for running the code on the world's fastest non-classified computer.

The groundbreaking demonstration, part of the biennial Critical Assessment of Structure Prediction (CASP) competition, used UW professor David Baker's Rosetta Code and ran on more than 40.000 central processing units (CPUs) of IBM's Blue Gene Watson Supercomputer, using the experience gained on the Blue Gene Data system installed at SDSC."




I do not presume to know the resources available to the development shop of the Rosetta@home project, but I do presume to know that even assessing the scope of the task of porting the code base to gaming consoles is non-trivial.

Tossing out huge numbers for potential scaling benefits is a rhetorical device that completely ignores the technical questions involved.

Who will pay the cost of answering those technical questions?

29) Message boards : Number crunching : Use At Most option missing--bug in 5.10.30? (Message 50501)
Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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Wow. Now this is bizarre. I looked at the machine today and magically the option is there! WTF?!

I had noticed this morning that the machine had reported its first WU...I wonder if "phoning home" somehow solved it.

But, as others have stated, the problem is reproduceable on a machine that has never had Boinc installed.

This problem really should be researched...it's not hard to reproduce...and I would think that the dev team would have a few pcs around for testing...some Ghost images would make this a very quick and repeatable test.

-Eric

the boinc developer team, is not the same as the rosetta@home team, you should visit the boinc site/forums!
30) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Last one to post here wins part 3 (Message 50500)
Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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well the dutch will help, and Interpol, and FBI can also help.
well ofc Navo, Nato, ISAF etc. and my group of well trained guerilla fighters.
31) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Word Link 11 (Message 50499)
Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
peter pan
books of fairy tales
shark tales
sharks
a cruise around the caribbean's
of the Caribbean
pirates
one arm bandits
Las Vagas









btw aint it time to get a new thread for this 2??
32) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Rosetta & Parallelization (gaming consoles) (Message 50498)
Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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Apparently myself and other donors have been expecting too much in terms of the Project being willing to communicate with us...

The silence remains deafening...

I do wish the project people would communicate a bit better as far as optimizations go, though. Just giving us a status update would be much appreciated.




Agreed. All I am suggesting is that at some point in the Cost Benefit Analysis, there H-A-S to be a point where the expenditure of resources is justified in porting Rosie to PS/3.

What is the Project's answer to this question?

Rosie is currently about 60 tflops. So, 10x that, 600 tflops?

1 pflop? F@H is already here.

60 pflops, 1000x where Rosie currently is at?

I can't believe the Project would say the expenditure of resources could not be justified for a yottaflop !!!

Spending time writing better scientific code can have more value than spending time optimizing for SSE or porting to GPU because it allows the code to do things that it couldn't otherwise do, even with more FLOPS, and thus can help discover medical breakthroughs.


well guys if we have the code for rosetta, and i guess we could get some code or help from F@H or from Sony maybe a group of volenteers could port it over using linux.?
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Rosetta version 5.93 (Message 50496)
Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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and to more errors.

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2

something wrong with sin and cosin
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Rosetta version 5.93 (Message 50464)
Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=131390192
35) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Last one to post here wins part 3 (Message 50459)
Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
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Calls 911 to report a notorius robber

just your cpu cycles, for boinc projects...

your tuxedo also serves as a robber's mask, so you rob and steal from the humans alot i know.
and your women-folk ain't so bad either...

animals are thieves, they like to take human money
too bad that Rosie likes the animals better (>RAC, and >credits), lol !!!

i say we use our lovely rosie to fold a diseas!!! a new one, named the tiger and penguin Flue. thats cant be to hard, can it?
out of the way you four legged beast! the two legged humans are here now
and the tiger just held the place....
because a penguin can recite vogon poetry? lmao
And that is why the animals are in front again ;-)
no no...bravo penguin..you are an accomplished vogan poet.
i must say your the first DA fan i've known to recite such a piece.


maybe you should visit a shrink...
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!

Oh the poetry!!














36) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Word Link 11 (Message 50458)
Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
a cruise around the caribbean's
of the Caribbean
pirates
one arm bandits
Las Vagas




37) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Last one to post here wins part 3 (Message 50437)
Posted 7 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
i say we use our lovely rosie to fold a diseas!!! a new one, named the tiger and penguin Flue. thats cant be to hard, can it?
out of the way you four legged beast! the two legged humans are here now
and the tiger just held the place....
because a penguin can recite vogon poetry? lmao
And that is why the animals are in front again ;-)
no no...bravo penguin..you are an accomplished vogan poet.
i must say your the first DA fan i've known to recite such a piece.


maybe you should visit a shrink...
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!

Oh the poetry!!








38) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Word Link 11 (Message 50436)
Posted 7 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
pirates
one arm bandits
Las Vagas


39) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Last one to post here wins part 3 (Message 50406)
Posted 6 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
maybe you should visit a shrink...
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!

Oh the poetry!!


40) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Word Link 11 (Message 50405)
Posted 6 Jan 2008 by Luuklag
Post:
Joint.
Peace pipe



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