Posts by Bryn Mawr

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 108008) Posted 27 Jan 2023 by Bryn Mawr Post: As I said months ago, the project has become trash. No official cares about it. It's abbandoned. You're wasting your time and money. In what way am I wasting my time and money? My preferred projects are Rosetta, WCG and CPDN with a couple of backups. They’re all set up to grab tasks from each project as and when they can - if Rosetta doesn’t give me work the others will and my machines are always busy. No waste of time and full return for money spent.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107973) Posted 17 Jan 2023 by Bryn Mawr Post: On the server status page there is only 27 left `in progress` for the entire project Now then , will the admin do the big clean out , clear up and reset the project I want them to do ?? And fix the certificate chain problem !? Hmm . . . We can but hope - it’s the perfect opportunity to do it.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : No new task packets downloaded successfully since last week. Transmission rate always 0kbps. Locate in China (Message 107902) Posted 26 Dec 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Where do you get 7.20.5 from ? it is not listed at https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php the newest listed there for ms is 7.20.2 Mac has a 7.20.4 Linux is 7.16.6 I do not know where to get 7.20.5. I read it somewhere on the Internet, but cannot find it. I never used it. Maybe someone typed 7.2..5 when they meant 7.20.4. I understand your perplexity, especially when you look at https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php. I imagine they are out of date if they say that. 1.) I am running 7.20.2 on my Windows 10 box, and it seems to work fine. 2.) I do not have a Mac, so I do not know what they are using. 3.) I am running 7.20.2 on my Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.6 (Ootpa) system. I got it from https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/8/Everything/x86_64/Packages/b/ (files are in alphabetical order). It stopped working on Rosetta a week or so ago, but continued to work on my other 5 Boinc projects. I had to run update-ca-trust to update my security certificates so that Rosetta would talk to me. I think it is working now for Rosetta, but I cannot be sure because Rosetta is not supplying work at the moment. 7.20.5 comes from the costamagnagianfranco ppa
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107845) Posted 18 Dec 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: If the server doesn't run, nobody can download wus, it doesn't matter if you are running linux or windows. Just accept it. If you still have running wus, they were downloadad before the server stopped. Greets Felix I tried that line but apparently there are people running Windows native who are receiving WUs despite the server being down. I do not understand how but as confirmation the outstanding queue has dropped from 6,340,000 to 6,320,000 over the past day - at that rate it must be intermittently sparking, it cannot be a continuous feed surely.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107830) Posted 17 Dec 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Yes, the Scheduler is allocating work and therefore the system sees it as “In Progress” but the Download Server is down and therefore the users are not getting the work whether they be Windows of Linux. That makes good sense, but i checked my Windows box and it downloaded a coupla dozen Rosetta tasks between 2:57 and 7:43PM yesterday; Three of them are currently running and the rest are in queue on my Windows machine. There may have been some that came in earlier. One has already completed successfully. Task 1510540883 Name KC_13mer_13_hallucinated_51_25_SAVE_ALL_OUT_2937287_27_0 Workunit 1344007211 Created 16 Dec 2022, 16:19:25 UTC Sent 16 Dec 2022, 19:57:07 UTC Report deadline 19 Dec 2022, 19:57:07 UTC Received 17 Dec 2022, 12:54:48 UTC Server state Over Outcome Success Client state Done Exit status 0 (0x00000000) Computer ID 5958977 Run time 7 hours 58 min 39 sec CPU time 7 hours 56 min 27 sec Validate state Valid On this, my Linux box, those 22 files are still there, waiting for the backoff to expire, which will be in a few minutes. Nope: while typing this, the backoff has increased. I manually poked every one of them and now they all must wait about five hours before it will try again. Grrrr. Then I apologise for my misinformation, in my defence I don't have a Windows box so I was working from first principles :-)
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107828) Posted 17 Dec 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Regardless of the Server Staus page, work is being sent out. The Top Computers list shows systems with recently allocated work, and the graphs also show work going out over the last few days. However it does appear to be at a lower rate than usual, so a reset of the download server would probably not go astray. Yes, the Scheduler is allocating work and therefore the system sees it as “In Progress” but the Download Server is down and therefore the users are not getting the work whether they be Windows of Linux. The Ready to Send queue is at 29,000 and should stay that way until the Queued figure on the front page drops to zero, the fact that it is steady at 6,340,000 or thereabouts shows that no work is making it to the volunteers.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107810) Posted 16 Dec 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Allocating the 14 tasks to you is done by the Scheduler which then passes them to the Download Server to action. The Scheduler has told you they’re coming but the DS is not there to send them. What happens if the deadline is passed before the tasks actually download? Is that all wasted? Deadline is early Sunday afternoon. If the task has not downloaded then you’ve done no work and used very little bandwidth - Rosetta has lost out but that’s their incentive to get the server running again.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107803) Posted 16 Dec 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: I received what looked like a download of 22 new Rosetta tasks (in more than one bunch), but they do not download. If I look at the server and it has been saying this for what seems a long time: Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org Not Running Well, if the download server is not running, why did it bother to tell me to download the tasks? :Like this: Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:54:03 PM EST \| Rosetta@home \| Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:54:03 PM EST \| Rosetta@home \| Requesting new tasks for CPU Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:54:05 PM EST \| Rosetta@home \| Scheduler request completed: got 14 new tasks Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:54:05 PM EST \| Rosetta@home \| Project requested delay of 31 seconds Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:54:07 PM EST \| Rosetta@home \| Started download of rb_12_15_464343_459634_ab_t000__h001_robetta_FLAGS Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:54:07 PM EST \| Rosetta@home \| Started download of rb_12_15_464343_459634_ab_t000__h001_robetta.zip Thu 15 Dec 2022 01:54:09 PM EST \| \| Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site Allocating the 14 tasks to you is done by the Scheduler which then passes them to the Download Server to action. The Scheduler has told you they’re coming but the DS is not there to send them.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107625) Posted 1 Nov 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: On this page you can easily see if some tasks are available and how the supply was in the past 90 days. Sorry to be awkward but is there an equivalent showing the figures from the front page rather than the status page? No, I don't think so, it's not standard BOINC page. Oh well, the link is useful anyway so many thanks.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107620) Posted 31 Oct 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Not sure as the front page and server status page haven't been updated quite yet, but another batch of tasks seem to be coming through Very small - maybe 50-60k. Not even enough to fill all cores at any one time. Ah well, something. Maybe another 100k went through a few hours ago, but they seem to have all been picked up already. Regular tasks, even if never quite sufficient to last On this page you can easily see if some tasks are available and how the supply was in the past 90 days. Sorry to be awkward but is there an equivalent showing the figures from the front page rather than the status page?
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107283) Posted 12 Oct 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Just had Acronis Active Protection report rosetta_4.20_windows_x86_64.exe and several related files as "Possible ransomware". Anyone else see this? It happens with all av occasionally due to the nature of Boinc. Easiest solution is to whitelist the Boinc directories.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Work units not validating (Message 107278) Posted 12 Oct 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Since the problems thread has been taken over with rants about language this is a reminder to Admin @Mod.Sense @srettie that the number of work units stuck in pending validation is growing rapidly and is well over two million at the time I'm posting this. It did seem to start and the number dropped for a while but it’s back over 2 million again now.
13) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to Limit CPU cores ? (Message 107277) Posted 12 Oct 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Do you have any recommendations for a possible replacement, preferably one which does not need a back mount? On my R9 3900 rigs I’ve replaces the stock coolers with the uprated Wraith Prism. Although the 3900 is rated at 65W TDP it runs at about 88W at 100% CPU and the extra cooling of the 105W rated Prism makes about a 10C difference in the reported temperature.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107201) Posted 9 Oct 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Oh, look! A validated task! 11mer_af_hallucinated_23_45_best_SAVE_ALL_OUT_2919280_72_1 Only 114 more to go! Two of mine have validated and, strangely, they’re tasks that have completed within the past few minutes, not the ones that have been waiting for days.
15) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to Limit CPU cores ? (Message 107151) Posted 8 Oct 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: @hadron A setting you might want to change is :- <rec_half_life_days>X</rec_half_life_days> A project's scheduling priority is determined by its estimated credit in the last X days. Default is 10; set it larger if you run long high-priority jobs. in cc_config.xml Setting this to 1 will reduce the time that a project will try to play catch-up when it’s been short on work so, in your case, if Rosetta has fallen behind its project share it will still grab 3 or 4 threads but only for a few hours rather than a few days.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107107) Posted 7 Oct 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Any idea why completed work units are not being validated?
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106946) Posted 21 Sep 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Well, Rosetta has not sent out work either for the past few days. Any idea why? I would be keen on their Pythons, but nothing available :-( There was a single dump of Python tasks and they have now been completed no guessing whether there will ever be any more.
18) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Disk usage shows over 70% but haven't had a task in almost 30 days (Message 106940) Posted 18 Sep 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: Running on Ubuntu 18+ on laptop. The stats page shows most of the disk is held by Rosettta yet I've had no tasks for nearly 30 days and other projects including Rosetta, are requesting space. Is Rosetta not releasing its space? Thank you for any info! Projects will hold disk space for the static files required by the applications, if you want to release this space then reset the project and it will download the static files again with the next work unit.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Ralph is closed? (Message 106903) Posted 10 Sep 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: And the bigger question is what happens here after they run out of work in a couple of weeks. Either they come up with something new, or it is all over. I don't think so. There is a lot of work to do. But seems that admins are satisfied of this app, without the will to update/optimized/introduce new features, etc. And it's strange, cause the rosetta code is constantly updated Also Foldit is constantly updated.... They dropped a single lump of 2.5m Python WUs and have not added any since. We’re now down below 12k and will probably run out within a week. In the absence of new Python work, given how sparse the 4.20 jobs have been and given that most of the new work is being done internally I’m not seeing a lot of work for us to do.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106889) Posted 10 Sep 2022 by Bryn Mawr Post: WCG is down due to an expired certificate, they are now aware of this and working on it :-) That is a project run by one or two inexperienced trainees in their spare time. A full time experienced networking profesional would realize the certificate needed to be renewed, usually annually. It would be on his calender. Well it certainly isn’t the first project to have this problem - I’d say it’s the third in the past couple of years.

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