Posts by Shawn H. Hall

1) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work Units (Message 58556) Posted 6 Jan 2009 by Shawn H. Hall Post: The rosetta application itself is not responsible for the scheduling. That is the job of the manager, so I'm not entirely sure switching to another project will help. Am I correct in assuming one of your machines is a PPC mac? the mini-rosetta apllication is not supported anymore for PPC. That means you will only see work for the "old" application on that machine, and that sort of work is not readily available. Yes, transient, you are correct. As a matter of fact, and after some research, I had already discovered this fact for myself. This link will take anyone with a similar problem to a thread that says it all: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=4360. Namely, that PPCs are toast--small, insignificant pun intended... What is a bit disappointing to me is that this problem is apparently so little known, based upon the responses that I received. I would expect that an issue for which it is that easy to discover an answer--when looked for in the right place--would similarly be well-known and disseminated accordingly. In any case, as hard as the Rosetta team works, and as I understand the manpower that it takes to port an application to so many different platforms, it is still quite a disappointment to find out that the PPC computers are being phased out. From what I have read and seen in both the forums and the results, PPCs were, and to some extent still are, a potent and dedicated force in the BOINC community of distributed computing. Thanks for everyone's help but, ultimately, I am going to have to follow the lead of one of the thread contributors in this thread, http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=4360, and move over to Einstein@Home where, apparently, and for the time being, PPCs are still fully supported. Thanks again, JLHunter
2) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work Units (Message 58551) Posted 6 Jan 2009 by Shawn H. Hall Post: 4) Bad luck of the draw After every outage of a larger or I/O-intensive Project (considering the Filesizes, I condsider Rosetta I/O-intensive) some Users get a comparably quick restart, while others (even with a fleet of Hosts) have to wait longer. Not sure how to explain this from the technical side, but it's just something I witnessed over and over in several Projects. Call it "Murphy's Law" if you wish, apart from the Update/Reset Project hardcore methods (not desired or recommended) nothing a BOINC user could do about it except let back Projects run and patiently wait. Hey, FF. Thanks for the input. I suspect that your #4 answer might be closer to the truth than any other answer, but, if so, my luck has been horrible for months, now. If I wait long enough, and usually in conjunction with a reattachment, I will get new WUs...USUALLY. Lately though, there has been no magic bullet in getting Rosetta@Home to respond to my many pleas for WUs. I guess that I will allow perhaps one more week of patient waiting to elapse before I do something drastic, but after that my frustration level will probably have reached its zenith, and on I will move. We shall see... Thanks again, JLHunter
3) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work Units (Message 58550) Posted 6 Jan 2009 by Shawn H. Hall Post: John, not to be "smart", but... have you tried just leaving it alone? When you run multiple projects, there are many scenarios where only having tasks from one of the projects would be normal and expected. Please review this thread for more details on how this can happen. Well, I have been around these projects for years, starting with SETI@Home in the 90's, and continuing on with my favorite projects almost since their inceptions. Consequently, and even though you'd never know it by my posting activity, I am quite well versed in most aspects of these various projects and BOINC, itself. While many problems do sort themselves out, and I have allowed them to do just that over the years, this new problem is distressing enough that I am running out of patience. My BOINC client is nearly running out of WUs for everything, since SETI@Home and Rosetta@Home are set to split the resources 50/50. Apparently, SETI@Home is waiting for Rosetta@Home to fill the void--but it isn't. What to do, what to do, what to do...
4) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work Units (Message 58547) Posted 5 Jan 2009 by Shawn H. Hall Post: Hi, All. It looks as if some people are getting WUs, but none are queued for me. I have been having this issue for some time now, and there does not appear to be any particular reason for it. I currently have three computers (two PCs and one Mac) splitting time between SETI@home and Rosetta@home, and to be quite honest, SETI@home is nearly flawless, while Rosetta@home has mostly been a time-intensive nightmare. I spend more time monitoring whether I get new WUs for Rosetta on my three computers than I spend doing anything else with BOINC. What is the most puzzling about this whole situation is that the WU shortage seems to rotate around through all three computers, with all three computers sometimes completely out of Rosetta WUs, or a totally random pattern of LOTS of WUs for one or two computers and none for one or two computers. I have tried everything that I can think of to solve this problem on my end, such as detaching and reattaching, resetting, reinstalling, etc., without much luck. I MIGHT get a few WUs with the detach/reattach attempts, but this is quite annoying and doesn't always work. What is most frustrating is that this situation is getting worse, with all of the computers running out of WUs more frequently and for a longer period of time. I am on broadband, so the Internet is always available for downloading or uploading on my end. Is there something that I should know or do? Any help would be appreciated, as I am thinking about going back to Predictor@home if this situation doesn't clear up, and soon.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Discuss Rosetta Application Errors and Fixes (all Vers) (Message 32915) Posted 19 Dec 2006 by Shawn H. Hall Post: Well, I repaired it...I think. I decided to "detach," which I did not want to do in case I would lose data. However, once I detached and then re-attached (or whatever it's called), everything went back to normal...for now. I think that I am attached to my old account, but the stats look bad in my graph. I'll wait to see if everything evens out. Thanks for the prompt help attempts. I will definitely return if something else goes wrong. John
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Discuss Rosetta Application Errors and Fixes (all Vers) (Message 32806) Posted 17 Dec 2006 by Shawn H. Hall Post: I have been attached to Rosetta@home for many moons, but as of the last few months I have had a disturbing problem; I never get any tasks--ever. I have tried resetting the whole Rosetta project, I have tried MANY times to schedule a new task (or request a new task--whichever), with no luck. What's wrong? Here is a sample log. They're all the same: Sun Dec 17 05:49:48 2006\|rosetta@home\|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi Sun Dec 17 05:49:48 2006\|rosetta@home\|Reason: Requested by user Sun Dec 17 05:49:48 2006\|rosetta@home\|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) Sun Dec 17 05:49:53 2006\|rosetta@home\|Scheduler request succeeded Sun Dec 17 05:59:03 2006\|\|Rescheduling CPU: project reset by user Sun Dec 17 05:59:03 2006\|rosetta@home\|Resetting project Sun Dec 17 05:59:03 2006\|\|Rescheduling CPU: exit_tasks Sun Dec 17 05:59:19 2006\|rosetta@home\|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta_cgi/cgi Sun Dec 17 05:59:19 2006\|rosetta@home\|Reason: Requested by user Sun Dec 17 05:59:19 2006\|rosetta@home\|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) Sun Dec 17 05:59:24 2006\|rosetta@home\|Scheduler request succeeded Can anyone tell me what the heck is going on?! I'm stumped.