Posts by BadThad

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 77219)
Posted 2 Aug 2014 by BadThad
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8/2/2014 3:32:30 AM | rosetta@home | Computation for task hc_centroids_1gou_34_0.25_06-01-14_SAVE_ALL_OUT_168124_4296_0 finished
8/2/2014 3:32:30 AM | rosetta@home | Starting task rb_07_28_48622_95033_ab_stage0_h003___robetta_IGNORE_THE_REST_04_05_179922_11_0
8/2/2014 3:32:33 AM | rosetta@home | Started upload of hc_centroids_1gou_34_0.25_06-01-14_SAVE_ALL_OUT_168124_4296_0_0
8/2/2014 3:32:55 AM | rosetta@home | Temporarily failed upload of hc_centroids_1gou_34_0.25_06-01-14_SAVE_ALL_OUT_168124_4296_0_0: connect() failed
8/2/2014 3:32:55 AM | rosetta@home | Backing off 00:02:41 on upload of hc_centroids_1gou_34_0.25_06-01-14_SAVE_ALL_OUT_168124_4296_0_0
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Upload: pending (project backoff) with proxy (Message 77205)
Posted 1 Aug 2014 by BadThad
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I\'m having upload issues too, most of my machines are backlogged with units ready to report!
3) Message boards : Number crunching : 3.43 is causing pop-ups (Message 74459)
Posted 17 Nov 2012 by BadThad
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Got up this morning to multiple windows on the desktop. I repaired BOINC and reset the project. Now I can\'t get work. Houston....we have a problem!
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Microsoft C++ Error - Possible to supress the error window? (Message 71082)
Posted 18 Aug 2011 by BadThad
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Thanks, I understand that. By the same token, it\'s easy enough for an installer to bundle in different dll\'s, inspect the OS version and install the appropriate version.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Microsoft C++ Error - Possible to supress the error window? (Message 70837)
Posted 1 Aug 2011 by BadThad
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Per Microsoft:

This problem may occur when you use the /GR and the /MD compiler switches, and the version of the Msvcrt.dll file and of the Msvcirt.dll file is 7.0.x.

Note This problem does not occur when you use a version of the Msvcrt.dll file and of the Msvcirt.dll file that is earlier than 7.0.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884538
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Microsoft C++ Error - Possible to supress the error window? (Message 70787)
Posted 24 Jul 2011 by BadThad
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Some tasks are seeing this error, fortunately it is fairly uncommon (although when such problems arise, they are often around for a week or two). The Project Team is always working to eliminate such errors, but as you see one can never been entirely successful at such an effort.

BOINC handles many error cases and can clean things up and report the failure back to the project without user intervention. But I am not aware of a way to get BOINC to handle these hard errors on its own.

Does anyone else know of ways to suppress that pop-up error window?


The old freeware version of PTFB might be a decent workaround to get rid of the message box if it does pop up:

http://majorgeeks.com/PTFB_Push_the_Freakin_Button_d4416.html

Does BOINC start a new instance of Rosetta if one crashes or does it need manual intervention?


Interesting utility, I\'ll take a look at it. Thanks!
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Microsoft C++ Error - Possible to supress the error window? (Message 70786)
Posted 24 Jul 2011 by BadThad
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Some tasks are seeing this error, fortunately it is fairly uncommon (although when such problems arise, they are often around for a week or two). The Project Team is always working to eliminate such errors, but as you see one can never been entirely successful at such an effort.

BOINC handles many error cases and can clean things up and report the failure back to the project without user intervention. But I am not aware of a way to get BOINC to handle these hard errors on its own.

Does anyone else know of ways to suppress that pop-up error window?


Thank you for the reply. This has been going on for about 2 months now over multiple computers. Based on that, I would not characterize the error as \"uncommon\". I\'m sure many users running Rosetta on XP must be getting this popup box:

http://www.badthad.com/temp/rosetta_error.jpg

Is there some reason Boinc/Rosetta doesn\'t use the latest C++ runtime, i.e. 2010?
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Microsoft C++ Error - Possible to supress the error window? (Message 70757)
Posted 20 Jul 2011 by BadThad
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I should add....all of these machines are XP SP3 and fully updated.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Microsoft C++ Error - Possible to supress the error window? (Message 70755)
Posted 19 Jul 2011 by BadThad
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Users keep contacting me about a Microsoft C++ error window that keeps popping up about Rosetta. Needless to say, this is driving me crazy. Apparently it happens when a WU has a computation error, which is fairly frequent as of late with the Rosetta WU\'s.

Is there anyway to supress the error window from popping up? I\'ve tried installing the latest Boinc client (no help) and installing C++ Redistributable 2010. Of course, after I tried the new C++ Redist I realized that Boinc/Rosetta are probably already using an older version, so it (obviously) did not correct the problem.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Reporting Deadlines (Message 69234)
Posted 12 Jan 2011 by BadThad
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I\'m sure we\'ll get credit for WU\'s past the deadline. Once fixed, the real problem will be sending and receiving work because the server will be killed with requests for a couple of weeks before we get back to normal.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : What\'s the bottom line? (Message 69233)
Posted 12 Jan 2011 by BadThad
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Hey Chile Man -

My gosh, it\'s the wrong time of year to be shutting my systems down - the temperature outside is supposed to drop down to around 31 (F) tonight and with Rosetta being dead in the water I had to light off the fire place just to keep warm ...



HAHAHA...indeed...I count on my crunching herd to keep me warm during the winter. No such luck this January it looks like. :(
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Killing Page Files! Out of virtual memory errors! (Message 68134)
Posted 19 Oct 2010 by BadThad
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OK....thanks for the info. I\'ll check my client versions and make sure they are 2.16.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Killing Page Files! Out of virtual memory errors! (Message 68123)
Posted 18 Oct 2010 by BadThad
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I am getting an error message a lot lately that there\'s not enough \"virtual memory\" (page file) and it\'s killing the app. It\'s also displaying an error message for each process which is very annoying.

This should no be happening on a PC with system managed page file. Why is Rosetta doing this? I run on 8 different systems and all of them are giving me this error at one time or another over the past few weeks. All of the systems have at least 70% free disk space.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Effect of Memory on performance (Message 37151)
Posted 23 Feb 2007 by BadThad
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More memory is always better. R@H uses about 100-120MB per thread!
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Process Stalls (Message 35088)
Posted 19 Jan 2007 by BadThad
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OK, it looks like the CPU is definately throttling. I traced back my work completed and the problem seems to have started when I uninstalled the Intel Active Monitor program. It seems the BIOS started making the decision to throttle when I did that, now it\'s the Intel program doing it, but it appears to have a higher threshold.

I came home yesterday to find the PC turned off. My wife said it was beeping with an error about being \"too hot\", which was the Intel software. I increased the warning threshold to 85°C in the software, but this morning I found the R@H process stalled again. The temp seems to maxing out around 73°C with R@H. This dumb Pentium D 920 should not be throttling at that low of a temperature. Apparently, I\'m going to have to buy an after-market cooler to tame this beast. I swear, Intel never designed this CPU to run under 100% load 24/7. I\'m about ready to toss the thing out the window, lol.

The system is adequately cooled IMO. There\'s a huge 120mm fan in the bottom of the PS, which is just above the CPU. Then I have a 60mm rear exhaust fan and a front 80mm, all of this in a 100% aluminum case with managed cables. I guess I\'ll have to do some agressive work here to cool this Pentium D!

Thanks to all that replied!




I have a Pentium D 3Gigrunning 24/7 never gets above 35c

Doesn\'t run Rossetta at the moment because it stalls.


Sure, idle temp is fairly low, my system idles around 40°C. At least now you know why it stalls.

I\'m testing a little program I found on the web (since last night) that controls the throttling. I\'m not letting the CPU throttle! It doesn\'t need to throttle until about 80-85°C, and I\'m not running that hot. Last I have checked the system it was running 68-72°C under R@H. If this program works, I\'ll be happy.



It runs at 35c working on other projects, it\'s not idle, it\'s at 100%


Wow, 35°C with 100% CPU load? That\'s unreal!

Well, I\'ve given up on this PC for my daughter, it\'s just too hot. I\'ve taken the Pentium D and put it in a new case with an Artic Freezer cooler. Just got this going last night, in the new setup it\'s running at 35°C idle and max of 48°C with Rosetta. I\'ve decided to make this PC nothing but a full-time cruncher in my herd of PC\'s. Good news for my daughter, I\'m putting a Gigabyte DS3 with a C2D E6300 into her case.....should take care of my temperature problems with her case for good.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Process Stalls (Message 34575)
Posted 12 Jan 2007 by BadThad
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OK, it looks like the CPU is definately throttling. I traced back my work completed and the problem seems to have started when I uninstalled the Intel Active Monitor program. It seems the BIOS started making the decision to throttle when I did that, now it\'s the Intel program doing it, but it appears to have a higher threshold.

I came home yesterday to find the PC turned off. My wife said it was beeping with an error about being \"too hot\", which was the Intel software. I increased the warning threshold to 85°C in the software, but this morning I found the R@H process stalled again. The temp seems to maxing out around 73°C with R@H. This dumb Pentium D 920 should not be throttling at that low of a temperature. Apparently, I\'m going to have to buy an after-market cooler to tame this beast. I swear, Intel never designed this CPU to run under 100% load 24/7. I\'m about ready to toss the thing out the window, lol.

The system is adequately cooled IMO. There\'s a huge 120mm fan in the bottom of the PS, which is just above the CPU. Then I have a 60mm rear exhaust fan and a front 80mm, all of this in a 100% aluminum case with managed cables. I guess I\'ll have to do some agressive work here to cool this Pentium D!

Thanks to all that replied!




I have a Pentium D 3Gigrunning 24/7 never gets above 35c

Doesn\'t run Rossetta at the moment because it stalls.


Sure, idle temp is fairly low, my system idles around 40°C. At least now you know why it stalls.

I\'m testing a little program I found on the web (since last night) that controls the throttling. I\'m not letting the CPU throttle! It doesn\'t need to throttle until about 80-85°C, and I\'m not running that hot. Last I have checked the system it was running 68-72°C under R@H. If this program works, I\'ll be happy.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Process Stalls (Message 34537)
Posted 11 Jan 2007 by BadThad
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OK, it looks like the CPU is definately throttling. I traced back my work completed and the problem seems to have started when I uninstalled the Intel Active Monitor program. It seems the BIOS started making the decision to throttle when I did that, now it\'s the Intel program doing it, but it appears to have a higher threshold.

I came home yesterday to find the PC turned off. My wife said it was beeping with an error about being \"too hot\", which was the Intel software. I increased the warning threshold to 85°C in the software, but this morning I found the R@H process stalled again. The temp seems to maxing out around 73°C with R@H. This dumb Pentium D 920 should not be throttling at that low of a temperature. Apparently, I\'m going to have to buy an after-market cooler to tame this beast. I swear, Intel never designed this CPU to run under 100% load 24/7. I\'m about ready to toss the thing out the window, lol.

The system is adequately cooled IMO. There\'s a huge 120mm fan in the bottom of the PS, which is just above the CPU. Then I have a 60mm rear exhaust fan and a front 80mm, all of this in a 100% aluminum case with managed cables. I guess I\'ll have to do some agressive work here to cool this Pentium D!

Thanks to all that replied!
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Process Stalls (Message 34431)
Posted 9 Jan 2007 by BadThad
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Any ideas as to why the Rosetta processes are stalling?

This is a problem in the BOINC API. David Anderson has debugged this problem and written a fix for this problem, which is inlcuded in the BOINC API 5.8.0. This fix needs a recompile of the science application.
This could also happen with BOINC 5.4.x, but mostly seen if CPU throtteling was used (BOINC client 5.6.x/5.7.x and 5.8.x).


Hummm...that\'s interesting, thanks. I seem to only have this problem on one PC, which is a bit strange. I\'m wondering if it may have something to do with the ATI video driver? That\'s the most unique characteristic on this PC compared to my others.

No.
The problem occurs only one sometimes on some hosts on some different projects. But on some hosts and projects it happens more often. Mostly, if the science app will be to often suspended.
To include the fix of the BOINC API, the science application must be recompiled.


Thanks! This will happen soon hopefully.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Process Stalls (Message 34410)
Posted 9 Jan 2007 by BadThad
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The BOINC client shows two processes are running, but the time is not incrementing and neither core shows a load in task manager. Shutdown the client and restart, it runs fine....for awhile. Today only ONE process was running on a single core.Restarted BOINC, everything is fine, came back 4-5 hours later to find Rosetta \"stalled\" again.

Screensaver set to blank, no other running processes except for antivirus (SAV 10.0.1). I know a lot about PC\'s, so there\'s no viruses nor malware on the system, it\'s very clean. Temperatures and voltages are fine, the PC is working perfectly.

Any ideas as to why the Rosetta processes are stalling?

This is a problem in the BOINC API. David Anderson has debugged this problem and written a fix for this problem, which is inlcuded in the BOINC API 5.8.0. This fix needs a recompile of the science application.
This could also happen with BOINC 5.4.x, but mostly seen if CPU throtteling was used (BOINC client 5.6.x/5.7.x and 5.8.x).


Hummm...that\'s interesting, thanks. I seem to only have this problem on one PC, which is a bit strange. I\'m wondering if it may have something to do with the ATI video driver? That\'s the most unique characteristic on this PC compared to my others.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Process Stalls (Message 34409)
Posted 9 Jan 2007 by BadThad
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All -107 exit codes it looks like. This is one of the primary symptom of PCs that are having problems running with BOINC/Rosetta as the screensaver... yet you said you aren\'t using the screensaver. Do you display the graphics? (if so, it can be prone to the same problems as the screensaver).

Interesting, that host shows significantly more floating point ops per second then integer.
Measured floating point speed 1411.95 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 1189.46 million ops/sec

Also interesting, when a task completes normally, you are granted roughly double the credit you claim.

Please let us know the result of your tests tonight.


To be honest, I never looked at it that closely. I have a somewhat large number of PC\'s running the project and micro-management is time-comsuming.

When I installed the client, I (as always) uncheck the \"set as screensaver\" option. On this PC, I just run the normal client3.

The Intel TAT tool will not run on a PD processor, so all I have it the regular Intel utility. But my load temps are still fine, about 63°C with two processes of R@H running. I backed the RAM speed down to 533 from 667 for now, even though the ram is rated at 667MHz. I\'ll see if that has any effect.


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