Posts by Steve Cressman

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Take the pledge: (Message 28076)
Posted 21 Sep 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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I'm a mod but not here, thank goodness. I say that because there are too many acting like children here (not pointing at anyone in particular). I've only ever had to give one warning on the board that I moderate on.

And I might add that I came to this project for the last 2 weeks of casp7 to help out(did not know about it b4 that or would have given more time to casp7). While doing the casp7 work I decided to continue contributing to this project long term but decided to stop crunching rosetta because of all the mud slinging and because of Ethan. It really is a worth while project but I can't put up with the crap here on the BB and if I can't participate on the BB then I don't crunch the project.


Steve you posted in a locked thread. Your posts were fine but if a thread is marked as closed every mod is going to delete further posts.

That post you are talking about should have stayed because it was a clarification of the post I made when I started that thread but I was not refering to that situation. The problem was that I was not allowed to state my opinion in other threads while others where allowed to have their opinions expressed. My posts where reviewed elsewhere and they agreed that they should not have been deleted. Others who read the info in the other place also stated they had similar experiences here and also quit because of it.

And sorry for being off topic.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Take the pledge: (Message 28041)
Posted 21 Sep 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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I'm a mod but not here, thank goodness. I say that because there are too many acting like children here (not pointing at anyone in particular). I've only ever had to give one warning on the board that I moderate on.

And I might add that I came to this project for the last 2 weeks of casp7 to help out(did not know about it b4 that or would have given more time to casp7). While doing the casp7 work I decided to continue contributing to this project long term but decided to stop crunching rosetta because of all the mud slinging and because of Ethan. It really is a worth while project but I can't put up with the crap here on the BB and if I can't participate on the BB then I don't crunch the project.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : a Rosetta chat room help desk. (Message 26620)
Posted 11 Sep 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Here is another good browser based Java Chat. A link to the chat room can be put on any web page. Only takes a few minutes to set up. No extra software to install.
http://www1.sigmachat.com/
4) Message boards : Number crunching : A Challenge (Message 25314)
Posted 28 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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The crunchers that feel they have been cheated by not using the optimized BOINC app.. well - all I can say to that is hmmm.. if they feel this way, maybe they should have upgraded.

It has been stated b4 that it was impossible for us to do that because then we would have been causing the same problem at other projects that happened here with overclaiming.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : A Challenge (Message 24862)
Posted 25 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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what happened to the challenge here? There's a new credit system that awards the computers that produce more structures so what computers produce the most?

Still can't tell until you block the use of clients that inflate the credits. These same computers that where overclaiming b4 are still influencing the amount of credit that gets awarded under the new system and that is a flaw. If you went back to what you started to do with getting a base amount from ralph then that would not be a problem but you then have to take steps there to make sure only official clients are used there. Then it would not matter what client people used here.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : A Challenge (Message 24811)
Posted 25 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Agreed. And if we could get a fair accounting of the past it would be even better.


The project won't be involved with modifying the current data set. If individuals are interested in manipulating the scores, they are free to download the export file and host their results on another site.

Are you going to allow me or anyone else to have access to all the data since February and the algorithms used for the new credit system so that it can be applied to all credits for all participants ? All of that data is not in the xml file. If not, then what you are saying can not be done and should not be given as an option.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : A Challenge (Message 24413)
Posted 23 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Luckily, it looks like the cross project parity is a non-issue. The new system grants what appears to be in the range of parity with others out there. Since no work needs to be done by the project to modify the new system, I don't see what is left to discuss on this topic.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=2164#23996

Good to hear.

Agreed. And if we could get a fair accounting of the past it would be even better.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : How about this (Message 23915)
Posted 20 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Since There is not going to be any back dating of credit then we should at least do this :

1) Declair that XS won the race under the current credit system
2) Start the race over again from zero using the new credit system

Then we will really be able to see who is accomplishing what.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Removing credits backdated to february. (Message 23291)
Posted 19 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Jose, please edit your message. . you have a good post without calling someone thick skulled for disagreeing with your 'obvious fact'.


Ethan if you want to ban me do so. When I see you telling the same thing at the people that have slandered my teamates as cheats and the one that just attacked me now , I will edit my post.,


It has been the collective silence of the developers and moderators when the cheating accusations started , when the slandering by the Seti people started that has yielded this . Ethan, in your silence and now in your selective moderating , you and the otrher moteratos have taken sides. Willingly or not you have.

Ban if you wish; You allowed me and me teamates to be called cheats. What else can I expect.



I can think of a couple of sayins :
If the shoe fits.....
or
The truth hurts don't it....

This is not directed at you personally
10) Message boards : Number crunching : All crunchers are equally important (Message 23283)
Posted 19 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Good post Matt

My dedication to the projects that I particpate in is as great as someone with 100 or 1000 computers. It is not by choice that I can only afford one computer. I ended up on disability a few years ago and barely get enough to live on. I could eat better if I was not so involved with the projects too but that is my choice. So you see you just don't know other peoples circumstances. I do what I can and that is all I can do.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : New Crediting system: questions (Message 22908)
Posted 18 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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I don't know what to think of this new crediting system. I'm running offline with a vanilla Linux client, which in the past kept receiving lower benchmark scores than did Windows clients. So far, I've reported to the new system (all at the same time, when I dialed in this Thursday) the completion of four WUs. The respective numbers, granted credit (old) on left, work credit (new) on right:
66.4 : 055.8
66.6 : 056.0
68.8 : 149.4
68.6 : 159.2

Is it just a coincidence that the two high (new) numbers are for WUs I reported on the day their deadline would have expired, whereas the two low (new) numbers are for WUs whose completion I reported ahead of their deadline date ?

And I am disappointed that there are two WUs on which the new crediting system will give me 16% lower numbers than the old system (which was already giving me lower numbers than for many other participants).
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From what I have read in other threads, there was a problem with the new credit system last night but it was caught quickly and corrected. Also read that they would be correcting the ones that are wrong. You just happened to submit a couple results during that time. The new system when fully implemented will be very good for you.
:)

P.S. I found this very interesting link to an informative page.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : New Crediting system: questions (Message 22891)
Posted 18 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Thanx for the info , was just curious.
I think I like the new credit system better, hope it gets adopted soon.
:)
13) Message boards : Number crunching : New Crediting system: questions (Message 22876)
Posted 18 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Granted credit 27.5148233945073
Granted work credit 35.3874794761889

Just wondering which of these two scores I'm receiving.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : New credit system now being tested at RALPH@home (Message 22288)
Posted 11 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Drop Boinc and many will leave IMO.

About 2.5 years ago I was doing Folding@Home and was not impressed. Back then I was still doing classic seti and it was a pain in the ass to be shutting down one project to let the other run and then doing it again and again. Finally I just said to hell with folding. Now that I run several projucts under Boinc for the last 2 years I would not even consider running a project if it did not run under Boinc. And I don't give a damn about credits, they are not good for anything in the material world. But I do like to see the increase in credits because it allows me to see that I'm doing valid work. I will never understand why anyone would get so worked up over these bloody credits, they are just numbers!!!
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Page Faults and Rosetta (Message 21860)
Posted 4 Aug 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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On older os's like mine, I lock the swapfile size so that windows does not waste time resizing it all the time. Also in the registry I set conservative swapfile useage so that windows won't actually use any swapfile until it uses up all available memory. If you don't set that in the registry windows starts swapping before you have even used up half of the physical memory. Maybe there are similar settings in xp that you could take advantage of.
:)
16) Message boards : Number crunching : You are cordially invited to a BBQ PARTY!!!!! (Message 21320)
Posted 28 Jul 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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A few days ago I saw the call for some extra help and at that time attached to Rosetta.
I'll give 90% to Rosetta until CASP7 is done and after that I may even stay
attached but at a lower share. Have to lower it later because I have previous commitments to other projects. I don't mind a little diversion once in a while to help out another project in its time of need.
:)






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