Posts by F. Prefect

1) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Moderator contact thread archive (Message 45870) Posted 9 Sep 2007 by F. Prefect Post: you are not alone, there are quite a few others as you have seen that have this same theme in various forms. the server is having fits of some sort. There is one thing that would be useful to know is what effect these delay will have on jobs that are completed and cannot as of yet be uploaded and as each day passes, more of them reach "expiration" for lack of a better word. Will they count, or if not, it might be the best course of action to just reset the project and obtain some "fresh" work. F. Prefect Believe it or not, contrary to my typical course of actions, I have refrained from starting a single thread complaining or asking if anyone is able to upload finished work or recieve new jobs. But I did have ole Albert as a backup. Those jobs have really gotter large. Personally I think there could have been more updates, but if there was nothing new to report, there was nothing new to report. If anyone is curious, I have be able to communicate with Rosetta, but so far I have not be able to get any movement of data in either direction. F. Prefect
2) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Moderator contact thread archive (Message 45861) Posted 9 Sep 2007 by F. Prefect Post: Believe it or not, contrary to my typical course of actions, I have refrained from starting a single thread complaining or asking if anyone is able to upload finished work or recieve new jobs. But I did have ole Albert as a backup. Those jobs have really gotter large. Personally I think there could have been more updates, but if there was nothing new to report, there was nothing new to report. If anyone is curious, I have be able to communicate with Rosetta, but so far I have not be able to get any movement of data in either direction. F. Prefect
3) Questions and Answers : Windows : 2 machines locked up on 5.8.16 (Message 40541) Posted 8 May 2007 by F. Prefect Post: After installing version 5.8.16 on my machines yesterday, I have uploaded 3 or 4 jobs from 2 machines. However when I attempted to connect and upload jobs from 2 Athlon 1.2 (T-bird cores) everything locked on both machines and the BOINC icon in the lower right tray had a white circle with a red X on it. I cannot even get into contol panel to see if I can do an unistall and reinstall to get the machines back up. The two machines are not networked but are connected to the same phone line. Could it be a virus HELP!! Gary
4) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC icon with white circle/red X (Message 40540) Posted 8 May 2007 by F. Prefect Post: After installing version 5.8.16 on my machines yesterday, I have uploaded 3 or 4 jobs from 2 machines. However when I attempted to connect and upload jobs from 2 Athlon 1.2 (T-bird cores) everything locked on both machines and the BOINC icon in the lower right tray had a white circle with a red X on it. I cannot even get into contol panel to see if I can do an unistall and reinstall to get the machines back up. The two machines are not networked but are connected to the same phone line. Could it be a virus HELP!! Gary
5) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Thunderbird chips (Message 40207) Posted 2 May 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I happened to notice this post first. Then worked my way through the Q&A boards and saw the same issue raised about three more times. No point in trying to respond to you on all of the boards. When in doubt, post to Number Crunching. It would be helpful if you could do an update to the project and then copy the resulting messages for us to understand what you have going on there. As for simple things people might overlook... on the Projects tab of BOINC Manager's advanced view, what is shown for the "status" of Rosetta? Does it say "Won't get new tasks"? If so, left click the line with Rosetta on it, then select the button on the left which reads "Allow new tasks". Then update to the project. I thought for sure that changing the resources from 100/100 to 200/100 with the 200 going to Rosetta would give me additional work, but I now have it set at 500/100 and my last job is 70% completed with no more in cache. What am I doing wrong on this one machine?
6) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Thunderbird chips (Message 40169) Posted 1 May 2007 by F. Prefect Post: If your messages indicate no work being requested as you update to the project, you may need to increase the Rosetta resource share, or remove other projects that you do not plan to do work for. Thank you, and I apoligize for any additional posts regarding this subject that was driving me crazy. I had forgotten which forum I had posted the question in and just now found your response. Don't know if it will work yet, but it does indeed make a good deal of sense. I shall give it a try. thanks, Gary
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problem D/L'ing Rosetta WU (Message 40165) Posted 1 May 2007 by F. Prefect Post: Don't feel too bad, I have 6 machines at home I would like to switch from E@H to Rosetta and not only can't I download any additional work units other than the 2 or 3 I received when I initially attached to the project, I can't find anyone who can even offer any help even though nothing in the FAQ matches the problem I'm experiencing. Gary
8) Questions and Answers : Windows : Read FAQ, Problem Still Exists (Message 40142) Posted 1 May 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I have been running Einstien@Home for over 2 years and have also done some work on Rosetta. Due to a problem E@H is having with their new R2 work units with specific AMD processors (of which I have 5) I have decided to just switch to Rosetta on those machines. After attaching to Rosetta and downloading the necessary data and jobs I began to complete Rosetta jobs until they were finished. With E@H I would automatically recieve new work when I was getting "low" but on 2 of my machines I am out of Rosetta work. Resetting the program did not even produce any new work. I have tried general pref. settings for the number of days between connections (default as well as home, work, and school)from 10 days all the way down to .5 day. I have the "target" currently set at 10 hours, but have tried other settings with no success. Does anyone have any ideas how I can get additional work. I still have E@H intalled on these machines and I read in the FAQ that a large inventory in that program could be the cause, but I am doing the last one one machine and only have 3 or 4 on the rest. I have also tried suspending E@H in a effort to "trick" Rosetta into seeing no jobs of any kind available. Unfortunately, it wasn't about to be trick. I have 5 or 6 machines I could be running Rosetta on if only I can find the probably obvious error I have made when setting up Rosetta. All of the machines are at one location and not networked. Help. Gary F. Prefect
9) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Thunderbird chips (Message 40135) Posted 1 May 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I believe Tom's right - there's currently no SSE optimisations. Your Thunderbirds will be welcome here ;) Thanks, that's a relief. Now I have gotten into another mess. I ran out of work for Rosetta and can't get any more. I've tried setting the "connect to" from everything from 10 days to .5 days in the general pref. and can't get a thing. Currently I have all machines set to 5 days. I have 6 machines and all at home and not networked. I'm able to get work on the slower machines, it's the Athlon 64 that's causing me problems. I have the target run time set to 10 hours on all machines. I've even tried resetting Rosetta on the 64 machine with no success. I know I'm overlooking something simple as I have run 2 projects at the same time before and am doing so now with the slower machines. Any ideas on what might be going on? Gary F. Prefect
10) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Thunderbird chips (Message 40105) Posted 30 Apr 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I have been running both Einstein@home as well as Rosetta@home for a couple of years but my main emphasis was on E@H. They have began releasing their new R2 work units that run considerably faster on machines than can run something called SSE instruction on the chip. I just discovered other than my 2 Athlon 64 XP chips, I am setting on 5 machines than have the Thunderbird core that cannot ues the SSE instructions and I will take a performance hit of as much as 40% over the old R1 jobs. Does the current Rosetta work run faster on the newer AMD chips that have the Thoroughbred or Barton chip? I realize the newer clips will be faster due to higher clock and FSB speeds, but I'm primarily concerned about this SSE instruction set that I was completely unaware of. If the SSE is not an issue with Rosetta work, I will be moving all machines to Rosetta. Thanks, Gary F. Pefect
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with one machine (Message 39999) Posted 28 Apr 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I have been downloading the Rosetta software since Einstein@Home has been experiencing problems with their new R2 jobs and for some reason I can get several work units on my initial download on my slower machines running at between 1.1 and 1.6 MHz. However on my Athlon 64 XP 3400 I only recieved 2 jobs and am currently out of work and cannot seem to find a way to download more. Under general default settings I have it set to connect every 10 days (and have tried other numbers) with the "turnaround" set at 10 hours in the Rosetta preferences. Any ideas? Gary Try resetting to "connect every 1 day" or .5 days. That should force the software to at least query the server for you more often. Once you get BOINC "trained" on how fast this machine processes Rosetta wu's, you can nudge the "connect to" back up to get larger caches. I'm completely lost. The only place I can change how often I make contact with the server is in general preferences, which has a default, home, school, and work. I first tried just setting the default number to .5 with no results, and then set all 4 of them to 1 day. Nothing. And another thing I could never figure out are these home, school, work, settings. I have more than 3 machines and they are all in one location, so using the default in General Preferences should work, I think. Not. I've been running everything set to 10 days for a couple of years while I have been running Einstien@home and it always seemed to give me just enough work that I had time to finish before they "expired", now I don't know what the heck I've got! Gary
12) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Out of Work (Message 39997) Posted 28 Apr 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I would love to be crunching additional Rosetta work units, but I can't seem to get any additional work on my Athlon 64 XP box. I have 5 slower Athlons ranging between 1.1 and 1.5 and when I downloaded the project files I recieved at least a dozen jobs. I have tried changing the settings in General (default) preferences but still no work. I've tried several of the suggestions in the FAQ, but to no result. The target CPU time is set to 10 hrs. F. Prefect
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with one machine (Message 39990) Posted 28 Apr 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I have been downloading the Rosetta software since Einstein@Home has been experiencing problems with their new R2 jobs and for some reason I can get several work units on my initial download on my slower machines running at between 1.1 and 1.6 MHz. However on my Athlon 64 XP 3400 I only recieved 2 jobs and am currently out of work and cannot seem to find a way to download more. Under general default settings I have it set to connect every 10 days (and have tried other numbers) with the "turnaround" set at 10 hours in the Rosetta preferences. Any ideas? Gary
14) Questions and Answers : Getting started : New Jobs (Message 39985) Posted 28 Apr 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I recently attached to Rosetta after the problems they have been having at Einstein@home and after completing my initial work that was downloaded with the software I can't seem to get any additional work. My primary defaualt pref. is set to connect every ten days. turnaround time is set to 10 hours. How can I download new work? Gary
15) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Could Einstein@home effect Rosetta (Message 34988) Posted 18 Jan 2007 by F. Prefect Post: Firstly, I have checked the FAQs with no results. I recently set up Rosetta on a machine that also has Einstein@home installed although I have no E@H work left as their project is down. Could my settings in E@H be effecting my Rosetta ability to supply the correct number of WUs for the machine? I made no adjustments to the preferences and my initial settings and began with 3 WU for a 2.2 64bit Athlon. The final job is 80% completed and I can't get additional work. I am on dialup and none of my machines are networkded. I have suspended E@H so Rosetta should be the only program active. I would like to run Rosetta if I could get it to work. Below are my general settings followed by Rosetta. work while computer is running on batteries? (matters only for portable computers) no Do work while computer is in use? yes Do work only between the hours of (no restriction) Leave applications in memory while suspended? (suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no Switch between applications every (recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes On multiprocessors, use at most 1 processors Use at most 100 percent of CPU time Disk and memory usage Use no more than 8 GB disk space Leave at least (Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.1 GB disk space free Use no more than 25% of total disk space Write to disk at most every 60 seconds Use no more than 25% of total virtual memory Network usage Connect to network about every (determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 8 days Confirm before connecting to Internet? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) yes Disconnect when done? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no Maximum download rate: 56 KB/s Maximum upload rate: 56 KB/s Use network only between the hours of Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction) Skip image file verification? Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example). Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no Edit preferences Separate preferences for home Processor usage Do work while computer is running on batteries? (matters only for portable computers) no Do work while computer is in use? yes Do work only between the hours of (no restriction) Leave applications in memory while suspended? (suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no Switch between applications every (recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes On multiprocessors, use at most 1 processors Use at most 100 percent of CPU time Disk and memory usage Use no more than 100 GB disk space Leave at least (Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.1 GB disk space free Use no more than 50% of total disk space Write to disk at most every 60 seconds Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory Network usage Connect to network about every (determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 10 days Confirm before connecting to Internet? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no Disconnect when done? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) yes Maximum download rate: no limit Maximum upload rate: no limit Use network only between the hours of Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction) Skip image file verification? Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example). Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no Edit preferences \| Remove Separate preferences for school Processor usage Do work while computer is running on batteries? (matters only for portable computers) no Do work while computer is in use? yes Do work only between the hours of (no restriction) Leave applications in memory while suspended? (suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no Switch between applications every (recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes On multiprocessors, use at most 1 processors Use at most 100 percent of CPU time Disk and memory usage Use no more than 100 GB disk space Leave at least (Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.1 GB disk space free Use no more than 50% of total disk space Write to disk at most every 60 seconds Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory Network usage Connect to network about every (determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 10 days Confirm before connecting to Internet? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no Disconnect when done? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) yes Maximum download rate: no limit Maximum upload rate: no limit Use network only between the hours of Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction) Skip image file verification? Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example). Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no Edit preferences \| Remove Separate preferences for work Processor usage Do work while computer is running on batteries? (matters only for portable computers) no Do work while computer is in use? yes Do work only between the hours of (no restriction) Leave applications in memory while suspended? (suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no Switch between applications every (recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes On multiprocessors, use at most 1 processors Use at most 100 percent of CPU time Disk and memory usage Use no more than 100 GB disk space Leave at least (Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.1 GB disk space free Use no more than 50% of total disk space Write to disk at most every 60 seconds Use no more than 75% of total virtual memory Network usage Connect to network about every (determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 10 days Confirm before connecting to Internet? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no Disconnect when done? (matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) yes Maximum download rate: no limit Maximum upload rate: no limit Use network only between the hours of Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction) Skip image file verification? Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example). Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no Edit preferences \| Remove Rosetta settings Should Rosetta@home send you email newsletters? Emails will be sent from Rosetta/BOINC Admin ; make sure your spam filter accepts this address. yes Should Rosetta@home show your computers on its web site? yes Default computer location home Percentage of CPU time used for graphics not selected Number of frames per second for graphics not selected Target CPU run time 6 hours Edit Rosetta@home preferences Gary
16) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Work Allocations (Message 34986) Posted 17 Jan 2007 by F. Prefect Post: With Einstein@home having what appears to be some extended downtime, I just installed Rosetta on a couple of my machines and will more than likely continue to run Rosetta even after Einstein@home is back up. But I'm having a problem getting enough work to last for more than a few hours. It doesn't seem to matter whether I set the connect to network every 1 day or 10 days, I recieve the same 3 work units. I was also told by a friend that the "target run time" will produce about the same number of credits if 4 units are run at 6 hrs each or 1 run with a target of 24 hrs. All I'm trying to do is set up the program that will allow me to download enough work for several days. What settings would produce something along those lines? I have 5 machines with Rosetta running on 2 (so far) and none are connected. 1 is a 1.4 Athlon, the other is a 64bit Athlon running at approx. 2.2. Thanks, F. Prefect
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem attaching to Rosetta (Message 34211) Posted 6 Jan 2007 by F. Prefect Post: About a year a go I was running Rosetta along with another project and to make a long story short, I detached Rosetta. I would now like to run Rosetta again but when I attempt to attach to the project I get the message that I am attached but no files will download. Any help appreciated. Sorry about all the posts, but I would like to get it up and running again. F. Prefect
18) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ (Message 34195) Posted 6 Jan 2007 by F. Prefect Post: Surely it has nothing to do with Rosetta@home science either ;) If they are having problems with their servers, they should move the forum and news to a different more reliable host. Einstien went down again about 8 hours ago and I'm considering moving all my machines to Rosetta if I could figure out how to do it. When BOINC came into existance, I began by running 2 projects, Rosetta and Einstein. About a years ago I decided just to run Einstein@home and detached Rosetta. When Einstein began having rather lengthy downtimes recently, I decided to put Rosetta back on 3 or 4 machines in case I ran out of work from Einstein. I was able to re-attach to Rosetta on 2 machines running XP with no problem and D/L the necessary files, but on win98 machines I received the message that I had attached to Rosetta and showed 1 file as being downloaded although no data was moving. I seem to recall that there were a couple of files that needed to be removed before Rosetta would actually begin to install. I did a search for the word rosetta on drive C and discovered there were 25-30 files in other than the BOINC folder that contain "rosetta". I started just to delete all of them but thought there might be some file sharing and thought better of it. Does anyone have any idea how I can get the files needed to run rosetta downloaded without having to delete everthing and completely start from scratch? It says I'm attached and even shows 1 file being downloaded, but as a said above, no data is moving. Thanks in advance. F. Prefect ford42@inter-linc.net
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Re-attaching projects (Message 34194) Posted 6 Jan 2007 by F. Prefect Post: When BOINC came into existance, I began by running 2 projects, Rosetta and Einstein. About a years ago I decided just to run Einstein@home and detached Rosetta. When Einstein began having rather lengthy downtimes recently, I decided to put Rosetta back on 3 or 4 machines in case I ran out of work from Einstein. I was able to re-attach to Rosetta on 2 machines running XP with no problem and D/L the necessary files, but on 2 win98 machines I received the message that I had attached to Rosetta and showed 1 file as being downloaded although no data was moving. I seem to recall that there were a couple of files that needed to be removed before Rosetta would actually begin to install. I did a search for the word rosetta on drive C and discovered there were 25-30 files in other than the BOINC folder that contain "rosetta". I started just to delete all of them but thought there might be some file sharing and thought better of it. Does anyone have any idea how I can get the files needed to run rosetta downloaded without having to delete everthing and completely start from scratch? It says I'm attached and even shows 1 file being downloaded, but as a said above, no data is moving. Thanks in advance. F. Prefect ford42@inter-linc.net
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem attaching to Rosetta (Message 33983) Posted 3 Jan 2007 by F. Prefect Post: I set up a couple of machines to run Rosetta while the Einstein project is down and one machine seems to work perfectly, but the other will upload finished jobs but will not report them. Any ideas what wher the problem might be? The settings aee the saem for both machines. F. Prefect It the way boinc works, it batch reports jobs after a liitle while, just leave it it should do it automatically. You may also want to change the runtime length of a job. Goto your preferences http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/prefs.php?subset=project and find Target CPU run time set it to 24hrs (that is if you are still using dial-up. Each jobs now runs for longer (it doesn't effect the results at all, can explain more if needed) but it saves you bandwidth a lot. Thanks FC. It appears it defaults to 8 days when installed and although I only have it installed on 2 machines, it seems like every time send in a couple of results, I get hit with more and more downloads. I've read the FAQs and understand what you mean by not effecting the results. I'll make the change and thanks for the help. F. Prefect

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