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Message 12741 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 3:53:48 UTC

What is the size of your BOINC directory?

How many days worth of workunits do your have? Which projects are attached?

Would you be willing to make a copy of the directory and in the copy abort all of the other workunits except the one that is stalling and zip everything up and send it to me?

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Message 12742 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 4:26:41 UTC - in response to Message 12741.  
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What is the size of your BOINC directory?

How many days worth of workunits do your have? Which projects are attached?

Would you be willing to make a copy of the directory and in the copy abort all of the other workunits except the one that is stalling and zip everything up and send it to me?


Hi Rom,

My BOINC directory is 1.3GB. I am attached to CPDN (regular and seasonal), Rosetta, Ralph, Einstein, Seti, and Seti Beta. I currently have a CPDN seasonal and a CPDN sulphur WU, a ready-to-report Rosetta and the suspended Rosetta, a Seti Beta and an Einstein. I've set everything to "no new tasks" for now.

Running BOINC CC 5.3.28.

I keep a 0.1 day cache, so I don't have a lot of WU's around. I would not be happy to abort the CPDN WU's. I don't mind suspending everything for the time it takes to zip, etc., or aborting the other WU's.

[edit]
Wait a minute. Did I misunderstand you -- you mean abort the other WU's *after making a copy*, then send you that copy, then go about my merry way... sure, I'll do that.

Please advise on where and how to send...
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Message 12743 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 4:37:50 UTC

All work units sent out since Friday have a maximum time limit of roughly 24 hours, so no computers should be getting stuck much longer than this
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Message 12746 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 4:58:02 UTC
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I tried this: First I suspended network activity and work. I made a backup copy of my BOINC directory, then I restarted BOINC in its original directory. I aborted everything but the stuck Rosetta. I let the Rosetta go, and it passed the stuck point.

I killed BOINC, then deleted everything from Program FilesBOINC. Copied back the contents of BOINC_backup, started up again. Unsuspended the stuck Rosetta, it got stuck again.

So, I have this backup copy of my BOINC directory where this Rosetta WU will stick, but it seems to require the other processes to be running. I can burn this backup to a DVD-R and send it to you, how about that?

[edit] BTW, 4 at a time, dual Xeon with HT. [/edit]

[edit] Going to sleep now, will check again in the AM...[/edit]
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Message 12747 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 5:05:26 UTC

Contact me offline and I'll let you know where to send it.

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Message 12748 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 7:33:48 UTC - in response to Message 12743.  

All work units sent out since Friday have a maximum time limit of roughly 24 hours, so no computers should be getting stuck much longer than this

Not so I today have just aborted 3 that were at 1% for 28 to 38 Hrs. Your self abort is Not working I hope it at least sends you back data as to Why it did not abort and why it got stuck
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Message 12760 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 15:28:01 UTC - in response to Message 12748.  

Not so I today have just aborted 3 that were at 1% for 28 to 38 Hrs. Your self abort is Not working I hope it at least sends you back data as to Why it did not abort and why it got stuck

If you look at the WU ID page (NOT the result ID) it gives a creation date for the WU. What are the creation dates for those stuck WUs? The "All work units sent out since Friday" would refer to the creation date, not when you actually got the WU.

Your computers are hidden, so I couldn't figure out which WUs you are talking about.
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Message 12763 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 18:06:21 UTC
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https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=12293043
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=15133540

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Message 12764 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 18:57:35 UTC
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I have one stuck at 1% (7:50:25) that was creates on the 25th (Sat) at 22:19 UTC... I suspect the fix is unfixed...

(Oooops! I just noticed Davids comment about 24 hours)

Result ID 14982362
Name HB_BARCODE_30_5croA_351_22702_0
Workunit 12161077
Created 25 Mar 2006 22:19:20 UTC
Sent 26 Mar 2006 8:33:29 UTC
Received ---
Server state In Progress
Outcome Unknown
Client state New
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 159713
Report deadline 9 Apr 2006 8:33:29 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out

Validate state Initial

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Message 12779 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 3:21:01 UTC - in response to Message 12764.  

I have one stuck at 1% (7:50:25) that was creates on the 25th (Sat) at 22:19 UTC... I suspect the fix is unfixed...

(Oooops! I just noticed Davids comment about 24 hours)

Result ID 14982362
Name HB_BARCODE_30_5croA_351_22702_0
Workunit 12161077
Created 25 Mar 2006 22:19:20 UTC
Sent 26 Mar 2006 8:33:29 UTC
Received ---
Server state In Progress
Outcome Unknown
Client state New
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 159713
Report deadline 9 Apr 2006 8:33:29 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out

Validate state Initial



Jobs beginning HB_BARCODE... were queued before we reduced the maximum cpu time, and we can't change the time limit retroactively. if you are having a lot of trouble with stuck WU, you can delete these work units.

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Message 12892 - Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 22:34:32 UTC

Still having WU's stuck everyday at 1%. Computers range from Duron800 to T2300 (most of them are AMD) and no difference between them. Sometimes I notice the problem after about 50 hours, so this problem is very bad.
Is there a solution in the horizon?
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Message 12893 - Posted: 1 Apr 2006, 0:18:00 UTC - in response to Message 12892.  
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Still having WU's stuck everyday at 1%. Computers range from Duron800 to T2300 (most of them are AMD) and no difference between them. Sometimes I notice the problem after about 50 hours, so this problem is very bad.
Is there a solution in the horizon?



The new work units should not be getting stuck at 1%. Could you try removing all pre 4.83 (on windows) work units and let us know what happens?
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Message 12908 - Posted: 1 Apr 2006, 14:29:46 UTC

Got the same 1% problem over here.
Killing the WU didn't help, the next one also got the 1% problem.
Then I reset the project. ( I've a dutch version so I don't know exactly the English name for the button)

After resetting the project all WU's were deleted and new ones were downloaded.
Now the system runs perfectly and since then no 1% errors occurred.
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Message 12974 - Posted: 3 Apr 2006, 9:04:26 UTC - in response to Message 12893.  

The new work units should not be getting stuck at 1%. Could you try removing all pre 4.83 (on windows) work units and let us know what happens?

This really seems to have solved the problem! Big thanks David!
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Message 13096 - Posted: 5 Apr 2006, 21:01:33 UTC

Nicely done, except there is a one little flaw. It may be called 1.042% bug. (The last number can be found in graphics). WU stopped after about fifteen minutes of crunching. Rebooting the client or suspending and resuming the WU doesn't help. Now aborting. There went 9 hours of crunching...

Stage: Full atom relax
Model: 1 Step: 320044

Program version is 4.83

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=16235196

Hope this was the only one.
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Message 13102 - Posted: 6 Apr 2006, 0:12:12 UTC

The 042 in the 1.042% is supposed to give the programmers a much better idea of where the program is getting stuck. But there's a few other numbers being passed around - so .042 may not be the only sticking point. By reporting the whole number of where the WU was stuck, they'll hopefully kill off the last traces of this bug.
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Message 13146 - Posted: 7 Apr 2006, 2:44:51 UTC

I've got another one. Here's a copy of all the text on the BOINC display, plus the URL of a screenshot of the same. When I ran the test from the command prompt, it stopped at exactly the same point -- 39 min+ so far at time of this posting.

FA_RLXpt_hom006_1ptq__361_426_1 (left in memory)
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1.042% Complete
CPU time: 9 hr 13 min 58 sec

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Stage: Full atom relax
Model: 1 Step: 314653
Accepted RMSD: 10.78
Accepted Energy: -51.5163

Rosetta@home v4.83 [URL]

Screenshot: http://pics.livejournal.com/sff_corgi/pic/000k21q6 (39.6Kb)
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PC ID: 23940 'Sothis'
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Message 13147 - Posted: 7 Apr 2006, 3:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 13146.  

I've got another one. Here's a copy of all the text on the BOINC display, plus the URL of a screenshot of the same. When I ran the test from the command prompt, it stopped at exactly the same point -- 39 min+ so far at time of this posting.

FA_RLXpt_hom006_1ptq__361_426_1 (left in memory)
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1.042% Complete
CPU time: 9 hr 13 min 58 sec

Model: 1 Step: 314653
Accepted RMSD: 10.78


Apparently this is one of the "old" pre-4.83 WUs (its date is 22-Mar-06) which obviously has a problem, as it failed on another PC:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11819500

I would just abort it.

PS: AFAIK, the only info needed when reporting a stuck WU, is just WU number e.g. #11819500 in this case (or just its name). If you just abort it, the project will also know the random-seed (it shows in stderr.txt output in resultid)
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Message 13162 - Posted: 7 Apr 2006, 11:02:39 UTC
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Hi All. I have a 2.4 gb pc with 256mb of ram. Running Windows XP Home with SP2. I have had no failures since I turned off all screen savers (I turn the display off) and leave unfinished WU in memory (i.e. Hard drive.) I run Rosetta,Seti and Predictor. No failures since 17/03/06.


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Message 13195 - Posted: 7 Apr 2006, 22:23:04 UTC - in response to Message 13147.  

PS: AFAIK, the only info needed when reporting a stuck WU, is just WU number e.g. #11819500 in this case (or just its name). If you just abort it, the project will also know the random-seed (it shows in stderr.txt output in resultid)


I believe they would like to know the exact percentage complete that the WU was stuck at.
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