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Message 12723 - Posted: 27 Mar 2006, 13:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 12721.  

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Message 12753 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 12:26:38 UTC

Workunit: FA_RLXub_hom008_4ubpA_362_450_0 stuck at 1% for 20 hrs. URL: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=14787271.
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Message 12762 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 17:14:21 UTC

Hello,

this is my list of Wu client errors :

FA_RLX56_hom007_256bA_362_202
FA_RLXch_hom015_2chf__362_223
FA_RLXwi_hom026_1wit__362_411
FA_RLXac_hom021_2acy__362_430
FA_RLXch_hom017_2chf__362_264
FA_RLXci_hom024_2ci2I_362_380
FA_RLXpt_hom006_1ptq__361_347
FA_RLXpt_hom002_1ptq__361_380
FA_RLXwh_hom024_1who__362_476
FA_RLXwh_hom017_1who__362_476

For a total of about 60 hours .... (on 3 PCs in 2 days )

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Message 12769 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 21:54:25 UTC

I have: FA_RLXai_hom028_1aiu_359_210_0 stuck qat 46.06%. If I close Boinc or reboot, it starts up again, the CPU resets at 55 minutes, and it runs until the CPU is at 57 mins and 57 seconds and gets stuck at Model 2, Step 21273. The CPU continues counting up, but will rewind to 55 minutes if I restart Boinc.
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Message 12770 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 22:18:04 UTC

3/28/2006 4:17:39 PM|rosetta@home|Starting result HB_BARCODE_30_2chf__351_32846_0 using rosetta version 482

The above WU was running for 35 minutes (out of a total time of 2:35). At that point, I turned on the graphic and saw that it was stuck at 1%. A second later it jumped to 29.5% and started filling up the graphs in the graphic box, which were previously empty.
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Message 12772 - Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 23:01:32 UTC

The following were aborted today. All were stuck at 1.00% after running for 20+ hours

ID=12326404 name = HB_BARCODE_30_1c8cA_351_32403
ID=12261321 name = HB_BARCODE_30_256bA_351_28680
ID=12034212 name = HB_BARCODE_30_1bk2__351_16205
ID=11076727 name = FA_RLXb3_hom001_1b3aA_359_347
ID=11972587 name = FA_RLXb3_hom010_2chf__362_384
ID=11761822 name = FA_RLXur_hom004_1urnA_362_308
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Message 12778 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 3:18:20 UTC - in response to Message 12772.  

The following were aborted today. All were stuck at 1.00% after running for 20+ hours

ID=12326404 name = HB_BARCODE_30_1c8cA_351_32403
ID=12261321 name = HB_BARCODE_30_256bA_351_28680
ID=12034212 name = HB_BARCODE_30_1bk2__351_16205
ID=11076727 name = FA_RLXb3_hom001_1b3aA_359_347
ID=11972587 name = FA_RLXb3_hom010_2chf__362_384
ID=11761822 name = FA_RLXur_hom004_1urnA_362_308


that is not good. with the jobs currently released, this problem should be greatly reduced, and from the "percent complete" we will be able to tell where the problem is.

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Message 12787 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 13:25:35 UTC
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https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=12388765

I suspended this unit after it remained at 1% for almost 4 hours. After suspending BOINC I tried running rosetta standalone for a while; it went to 17% within 15 minutes. When I restarted BOINC and resumed processing on this unit, it reset itself to zero, so I aborted it.

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Message 12788 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 13:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 12691.  

After a bogus WU on one of my pc's that cost me over 300 credits (it was hanging for a long time) I went though all of my WU's. This is a list of all my recent WU's that were aborted with an error:

Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11410757
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10507541
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10454400
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10309222
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10644097

AuthenticAMD mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11665942
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11639527
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11478408

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz (@2.40GHz)
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11045076
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11068185
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11008648
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10993712
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10976761
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10961239
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10961160
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10931034
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10928750
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10808712

AuthenticAMD mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP-M 2800+ (LV)
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10419709
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10421027
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10438624
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10529395
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10455024
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10417302
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10390604
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10095664
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10064299
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10015662

AuthenticAMD AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10387309
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=9956247

AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10629816
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10459506
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10283291
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10059896
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=9544176
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=5796746
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=5733085

AuthenticAMD AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11452627
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=11439431
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10345630
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10727823
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=10548190

I'm running Rosetta for the medical purpose, but I think there's over 1000 credits in the list above...

I'm wondering if the claimed credits will be awarded for these bogus WU's??
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Message 12789 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 13:57:41 UTC - in response to Message 12778.  

[quote]that is not good. with the jobs currently released, this problem should be greatly reduced, and from the "percent complete" we will be able to tell where the problem is.

Yes on the stuck units if you restart boinc the restets the timer to 0 .
I abouted another 4 W/Us to day that brings the total to 9 since Sunday
Sory I am Not much good at gathering Info Just hope the returned W/U will help give you the info you need to stop this BUG
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Message 12796 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 19:11:41 UTC - in response to Message 12789.  

[quote]that is not good. with the jobs currently released, this problem should be greatly reduced, and from the "percent complete" we will be able to tell where the problem is.

Yes on the stuck units if you restart boinc the restets the timer to 0 .
I abouted another 4 W/Us to day that brings the total to 9 since Sunday
Sory I am Not much good at gathering Info Just hope the returned W/U will help give you the info you need to stop this BUG


Laurenu2: If I remember your description of your pharm from the Dutch Mad Cow Invasion at FaD, you had about 40 systems. That would make your stuck WU rate around 10% for yesterday, and well above the average failure rate. (The error rate seems high, even if you've expanded to 80 machines.)
Would you mind describing the hardware and OS configurations of the machines that are failing? Processor/speed/ o/c or not/ amount of ram/ OS version, Boinc version, any monitoring apps running in the background. And how are the failing machines different than the ones that aren't failing? (If there's machines that aren't randomly getting stuck.)
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Message 12801 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 22:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 12796.  

[quote Laurenu2: If I remember your description of your pharm from the Dutch Mad Cow Invasion at FaD, you had about 40 systems. That would make your stuck WU rate around 10% for yesterday, and well above the average failure rate. (The error rate seems high, even if you've expanded to 80 machines.)
Would you mind describing the hardware and OS configurations of the machines that are failing? Processor/speed/ o/c or not/ amount of ram/ OS version, Boinc version, any monitoring apps running in the background. And how are the failing machines different than the ones that aren't failing? (If there's machines that aren't randomly getting stuck.) [/quote]

I run about 70 nodes here at my home I have about 40 on Rosetta most of the 40 are AMD 2400 +/- 1800 to 2800 with 256MB or more memory, 29 of the 40 have XP pro for the OS the other 11 still have WinME but should be upgraded to XP with in a week
Now the 1% stall I think come mostly to the XP nodes ON the WinME the Clock just seems to stop and I understand Rosetta dose not work well with ME and that is why I am doing the upgrade
I do not Over clock at all All or 98% of the 40 nodes do nothing but crunch Rosetta with no other programs running on them at all

I do not think it is a hardware bug issue if it was it would not be this widespread So if it is not hardware it must be the code in the software


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Message 12803 - Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 22:43:24 UTC

Let me Add one more thin I run many other DC projects none with a problem or failure rate like it is he at Rosetta That alone tells me it is not a hardware issue
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Message 12812 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 4:00:08 UTC

The question was not whether your systems were stable enough to run dc projects (as I've seen your stats in other dc projects).. but to try and find out what's different about your hardware/software configuration that makes it more suseptible to the 1% bug than average. It's a problem that only shows up when Boinc is in control of Rosetta (Rosetta alone crunches through that sticking point) - and seems to be showing up more often on certain hardware. (Come to think of it, if you have a low max time set, and are running through up to 480 WUs a day, to have a few get caught might be the average failure rate..)

The more data about the machines with 1% failures we can give Rom, the more likely he'll be able to track down the intermittent problem. And when we help track it down and get it eliminated.. it'll make life easier for everyone dealing with the problem.

In the meantime.. is the problem showing up on your machines that have 512 Megs, or just on ones with 256Megs? Do you have Boinc setup as a service on the WinXP machines, or as a standard app?




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Message 12814 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 4:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 12801.  

I run about 70 nodes here at my home I have about 40 on Rosetta most of the 40 are AMD 2400 +/- 1800 to 2800 with 256MB or more memory, 29 of the 40 have XP pro for the OS the other 11 still have WinME but should be upgraded to XP with in a week
Now the 1% stall I think come mostly to the XP nodes ON the WinME the Clock just seems to stop and I understand Rosetta dose not work well with ME and that is why I am doing the upgrade
I do not Over clock at all All or 98% of the 40 nodes do nothing but crunch Rosetta with no other programs running on them at all

I do not think it is a hardware bug issue if it was it would not be this widespread So if it is not hardware it must be the code in the software


Lauren, since 35+ of your nodes are "crunching boxes", i.e. dedicated to work for projects like Rosetta, have you ever considered running Linux instead of WinXX (XX=XP, 2K, ME etc) on them? Linux consumes less RAM than WinXX for a minimal system. You don't need the GUI anyway for such a box and Linux's remote-control capabilities are very good.

With regard to my experience with Rosetta's 1% issue, in my almost 3 months with the project, I have had sofar one (1) WU get stuck on one of my 2 P4s w/512MB RAM running WinXPpro, but it was a "faulty" WU (it got stuck within 10sec since it started running on #1 Model, same step # everytime).

Initially, in Jan06, I've had some problems (3-4 WUs) with Rosetta getting stuck on a Linux box, which had just 256MB RAM and was running many (100+) other processes and 6 BOINC projects (all left in virt. memory while pre-empted). Since I reduced # BOINC projects to 4 (rosetta, ralph, simap, lhc) I had no problems during the last 1.5 month.

All 3 PCs have Intel CPUs.

Obviously this sample of 3 PCs is not comparable with your 40 systems, but maybe there is a pattern?
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Message 12815 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 5:12:59 UTC
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Egad another 86:29 hours down the loo... This one stuck @86.0%....Nil movement in graphics mode. Please note:*

Result ID 15004859
Name HB_BARCODE_30_4ubpA_351_23915_0
Workunit 12180494
* Created 26 Mar 2006 4:33:09 UTC
Sent 26 Mar 2006 13:47:34 UTC
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Server state In Progress
Outcome Unknown
Client state New
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 53940
Report deadline 9 Apr 2006 13:47:34 UTC


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Message 12821 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 7:35:45 UTC - in response to Message 12812.  

The question was not whether your systems were stable enough to run dc projects (as I've seen your stats in other dc projects).. but to try and find out what's different about your hardware/software configuration that makes it more suseptible to the 1% bug than average. It's a problem that only shows up when Boinc is in control of Rosetta (Rosetta alone crunches through that sticking point) - and seems to be showing up more often on certain hardware. (Come to think of it, if you have a low max time set, and are running through up to 480 WUs a day, to have a few get caught might be the average failure rate..)

The more data about the machines with 1% failures we can give Rom, the more likely he'll be able to track down the intermittent problem. And when we help track it down and get it eliminated.. it'll make life easier for everyone dealing with the problem.

In the meantime.. is the problem showing up on your machines that have 512 Megs, or just on ones with 256Megs? Do you have Boinc setup as a service on the WinXP machines, or as a standard app?


The stalls are not confined to and one or group of PC's and they may not happen on the same PC twice

Most work units are posted to finish in the 2 to 3 Hr range. The PC's on a norm Finnish 25 to 35% faster then the Est time posted

No Boinc is Not run as a service I start the project I want to run at startup

Not sure about the PC's with 512+ memory if they stall out

I thought David and Ron had implemented data gathering to help weed out or find out what is causing this problem

I am limited in tine here working running my company and taking care of my family, Just to do a check of all my nodes takes about 1 Hr So when I find a node that has stalled I just abort it and move on

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Message 12822 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 7:45:11 UTC - in response to Message 12814.  

Lauren, since 35+ of your nodes are "crunching boxes", i.e. dedicated to work for projects like Rosetta, have you ever considered running Linux instead of WinXX (XX=XP, 2K, ME etc) on them? Linux consumes less RAM than WinXX for a minimal system. You don't need the GUI anyway for such a box and Linux's remote-control capabilities are very good.
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I am sory I would find hard to learn a New OS right now and have little time to format and install a new OS system wide
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Message 12826 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 9:45:02 UTC

WU aborted at 1.00%: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=15048830. WU was HB_BARCODE_30_2ci2I_351_26295_0.

If I was to get any additional information in the percent quote or from the database update, I did not see it.

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Message 12833 - Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 14:57:19 UTC

I think most of the problems reported in the last few posts were from work units created before the March 28 update--hopefully these older wu will all get through the system in the next day or two.
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