Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Uploading Rosetta Results from Firewalled Network
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DAK1640 Send message Joined: 2 Jan 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 488,666 RAC: 0 |
My company has an upload firewall that will NOT allow any uploads..Kind of crazy if you ask me. I have a PC (my own) there that will run Rosetta. How can I copy whatever completed files are ready for uploading, and upload them from one of my home computers? |
Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
The way I managed that on another project was by using a 512MB USB memory stick, and having a another copy of the the agent in a separate folder on the stick.(in your case you'll also need a copy of BOINC on the stick). Then move the completed jobs to the memory stick, move the memory stick to a computer that was connected to the internet, then send the jobs (you'll have to stop Boinc on the computer you're sending from.)... Initially, you may have to move the BOINC folder to a separate folder on your home computer but there after you only need to move the jobs... That should work... It's worth a try anyhoo... Join the Teddies@WCG |
DAK1640 Send message Joined: 2 Jan 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 488,666 RAC: 0 |
The way I managed that on another project was by using a 512MB USB memory stick, and having a another copy of the the agent in a separate folder on the stick.(in your case you'll also need a copy of BOINC on the stick). Then move the completed jobs to the memory stick, move the memory stick to a computer that was connected to the internet, then send the jobs (you'll have to stop Boinc on the computer you're sending from.)... Initally, you may have to move the BOINC folder to a separate folder on your home computer but there after you only need to move the jobs... That should work... It's worth a try anyhoo... I had to do that with D2OL and I knew what file I wanted...but this Rosetta is kind of confusing...I don't think I want to copy the entire BOINC directory do I? |
Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
Yep, that's the only way you can maintain the original computers indentity. You'll on have to copy the Rosetta folder to the memory stick evertime, and copy the Rosetta folder to the connected computer everytime since you don't know which are the completed jobs. You only need to copy BOINC once to each (Stickand connected puter. Remember to stop BOINC before copying to the stick. |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 815 Credit: 1,812,737 RAC: 0 |
Yep, that's the only way you can maintain the original computers indentity. You'll on have to copy the Rosetta folder to the memory stick evertime, and copy the Rosetta folder to the connected computer everytime since you don't know which are the completed jobs. You only need to copy BOINC once to each (Stickand connected puter. Remember to stop BOINC before copying to the stick. YOu also need to copy things like the client state files ... So, simplest is to just do a complete copy from one to the other ... Don't forget also to set the network access to off, then shutdown, copy, install, bring back, copy back, start, enable access, repeat ... Note that if you have another copy of BOINC running on the "upload" computer you still may get weird results including multiple computers in the listing of computers. All that said, you had best check company policy about running an application like BOINC on the computer. No means no. And if they have locked down the network, it is likely that the corporate policy is to not allow programs like BOINC/Rosetta@Home to run. Installing and running an applicaation like this *CAN* result in dismissal. Run BOINC and any of the projects only on those computers you OWN, or that you have EXPLICIT permission to install it. |
River~~ Send message Joined: 15 Dec 05 Posts: 761 Credit: 285,578 RAC: 0 |
All that said, you had best check company policy about running an application like BOINC on the computer. No means no. And ... as well as it being part of your work contract, this is also BOINC policy and I imagine Rosetta policy. BOINC and Rosetta can't fire you, but they will not be best pleased if you generate results for them and then they get complaints from your boss! OK - I know you said it is your computer, but while it is connected to *their* network you may be legally bound to abide by their rules -- and even if not I'd say you are morally bound by them... A network has good reason to prevent downloads and refuse to allow 'sneaker net' downloads (ie files walked in on usb sticks etc) to prevent viruses. Companies with commercial secrets (software, patents, marketingplans, pricing, design, etc) have good reason to refuse to allow 'sneaker net' uploads, which is what you are suggesting. If I was your company's IT mananger I would be hapier making a dedicated hole in the firewall for your computer and specifically for the BOINC sites than I would be letting you run a sneaker net. At least that way the company knows what is being sent where. Sorry to be a damp squid when you are so enthusiastic, but you don't want to lose your job, and you don't want to get blamed for some unrelated bit of info piracy just because they find out about your usb-stick. Finally: if you do get permission to copy files in and out on a usb stick, don't run BOINC right off a flash drive. It will work but will wear the drive out. Copy it on and off a normal hard dirve at each end. Best regards, River~~ |
DAK1640 Send message Joined: 2 Jan 06 Posts: 5 Credit: 488,666 RAC: 0 |
All that said, you had best check company policy about running an application like BOINC on the computer. No means no. And ... You all have been most helpful and raise some very good points. Thank You!!! |
James Send message Joined: 8 Jan 06 Posts: 21 Credit: 11,697 RAC: 0 |
A simple fix would be to bring in an external modem and jack it into your phone line - assuming you are willing to spend 10 a month for the privelage. I realize BOINC's policy and haven't read through all the posts. If you run it at work and the computer is assigned to you to do as you wish (as it is with myself, however I do not run BOINC on it), then that's great. I can install and run as I wish - that's the privelage of working at a state university. Sadly I need the computing power for other purposes during the day and don't feel like running it after work. Thus I run it at home. |
robycz Send message Joined: 3 Dec 05 Posts: 1 Credit: 126,738 RAC: 0 |
I have the same problem, i can do whatever i want with the pc in the office, but there's some problem with the network, due to security reason. I hope i find a solution... |
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