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Message 81334 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 13:05:03 UTC

When I first started using Rosetta@home, my tasks window in boinc said Rosetta@home. After the domain name crash and restart, it now says Rosetta Mini. Is that the same or am I running something different now. If so, how do I go back to running Rosetta@home in the tasks window. Thanks all
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Message 81335 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 14:01:20 UTC
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I responded to your earlier post of this question here.

If that did not address your question, please let us know what column you are looking at, and whether you are in the "simple" or "advanced" view of BOINC Manager.
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Message 90627 - Posted: 6 Apr 2019, 3:41:15 UTC

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Buongiorno.
Il mio computer non riesce a completare l'elaborazione delle work unit mini 3.78.
Il processo di elaorazione si ferma quando viene raggionta una percentuale inferiore all'1% (esempio, 0.759) e rimane li fermo per molte ore, ma la percentuale non aumenta.
Inoltre, non è possibile vedere la grafica della work unit.

Io non ho questi problemi per la work unit 4.07, che funziona benissimo, viene elaborata in tempi adeguati ed è sempre possiible vedere graficamente i risultati.
E' possibile non ricevere più le work unit mini 3.78, che sono costretto ad annullarle tutte altrimenti mi bloccano il pc su processi di calcolo senza fine?

Ringrazio per l'attenzione. (prego inviare risposta anche su mangelini1967@libero.it)
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Message 94084 - Posted: 10 Apr 2020, 15:32:22 UTC
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I used BOINC years ago on another PC until the project ended. Earlier this week I found it again and tried to participate in this one as a fresh start on a Win 10 Pro desktop.

I wonder why, although it appears to be working, there is a permanent message on the BOINC manager "Work done for this project 0"
Looking at my Rosetta account shows me some tasks (Mini) showing a time to complete as well as others that are in progress. That appears to contradict that message!

Even though the Status is shown as "running"

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Message 94090 - Posted: 10 Apr 2020, 16:57:22 UTC - in response to Message 94084.  

Work doesn't really get considered to be "done" until it is completed and reported back to the project. As your current work is reported back, the number will increase.
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Message 94419 - Posted: 14 Apr 2020, 3:29:38 UTC

I'm sorry, but that's not true. Rosetta Mini 3.78 work units, even when they have reached 100% of processing, continue to be processed. I wanted to see how far this continued: it happened that, after more than 6 days of processing, the work unit indicated 100%, occupying over 4GB of RAM.
Therefore, I am of the opinion that Rosetta Mini 3.78 work units are defective, or made for other types of PCs.
The problem is that I can't disable receiving them every time I ask for new work units from the Rosetta project.
Is it possible to program this function?
Thanks for the attention.

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Message 94420 - Posted: 14 Apr 2020, 4:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 94419.  
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I'm sorry, but that's not true. Rosetta Mini 3.78 work units, even when they have reached 100% of processing, continue to be processed. I wanted to see how far this continued: it happened that, after more than 6 days of processing, the work unit indicated 100%, occupying over 4GB of RAM.
Therefore, I am of the opinion that Rosetta Mini 3.78 work units are defective, or made for other types of PCs.
I couldn't see any sign of the Tasks you refer to, but there is a problem is with your system, or what you are doing with it.
The default Target CPU Runtime for Rosetta Tasks is 8 hours, they will only run for longer periods of time if you select a different Target time. There is a 4 hour grace period- if a Task runs for more than 4hrs over it's Target runtime the Watchdog time will end the task.


There are Tasks you have aborted that show significant problems with your system at the time, or it's settings.

Such as this Task
hgfp_dimer_3x_286_fold_SAVE_ALL_OUT_906837_813_1

# cpu_run_time_pref: 43200- you have set your system to process work for 12hrs, so that's what it will attempt to do.

However,
Run time 3 hours 53 min 32 sec
CPU time 2 min 20 sec
What this shows is that the Task was running for almost 4 hours, but in that time the CPU was only able to process it for just over 2 minutes- and this is what is used for the Target CPU runtime.
At that rate it will take roughly 60 days to finish a 12hr Task.
Normally, the difference between Runtime & CPU time should be no more than a few minutes. Maybe 2 or 3 or so for 4 hours or Runtime.

This indicates the system was busy using the CPU for things other than processing work or you have "Use at most xx% of CPU time" set to something like 2%. If heat is an issue, you are better of leaving "Use at most xx% of CPU time" and limiting the number of cores in use if fixing the cooling problem isn't an option.
The other possibility is you have Malware of some description on that system. As Rosetta runs at idle priority, most other programmes will get CPU resources ahead of Rosetta.


The problem is with your system, and you need to find out what programme is stopping Rosetta from being able to process work.
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Message 94525 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 10:19:02 UTC - in response to Message 94420.  

Hello.
I have not understood some terms that you have told me, but I can tell you this: the time set for using the PC is 100%. I think I can see the characteristics of my pc from my account.

For 70% of the day, the PC is not used, and is turned on 24 hours a day, and is set to allocate 80% of the total resources to the distributed calculation.
Heating will never be a problem, for what I installed it.
The problem of Rosetta Mini 3.78 work units has been going on for at least two years and they are the only work units I have had problems with.
Rarely, it happens with some work units of the World Communty Grid project, but I repeat it is very rare.

In my opinion, there is a problem of mathematical transformation ab initium.
So, the only solution that I see, not being able to block their sending from the Rosetta @ home site, is to cancel them every time I see them download and / or process.
I await a solution on this, but at the moment I have to do this.

Good day
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Message 94547 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 14:42:30 UTC - in response to Message 94525.  
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Grant is pointing out that your reported WUs are showing that they are not getting very much CPU time. Your machine seems to be busy running other things. BOINC ony runs at very low priority, so any other work gets done first. Your work units show they have been "running" for 4 hours, but only used one hour of CPU time. So Grant was suggesting that you see if you can locate why your machine does not have more CPU time running BOINC tasks. The Windows task manager can show you which tasks are actually getting CPU time on the machine.
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Message 94696 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 17:44:43 UTC - in response to Message 94547.  

Good evening.

Boinc is set to change projects every 3 hours, so as to allow other projects to be processed. Rosettamini 3.78 work units show me a processing that oscillates between 0.075% and 4.75%. After that, the processing time continues its count, but the processing percentage does not increase. Now I have canceled three 3.78 projects, one of which had accumulated a processing time of over 16 hours for 2,610% of the elaborate. As much as my pc can be engaged in other things (but nobody uses it at night), this is undeniable that there is a problem in the mathematical packaging of the work unit.
I repeat, it is the only type of project that gives me problems. Other applications of the Rosetta @ home project have never given me problems.
I also work out other projects, but never had these difficulties.

Thanks for your attention.

Max Angelini
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