I tried several times on several machines to use the master URL and it never worked. ID not found in database or something. It doesn't seem to be any use anyway, the proper URL works ok.

Weird error, but it doesn't matter, as you say.

I engaged a 5 minute tickle on 7 PCs, and got loads of cancer tasks. It seems to be churning things out regularly now, so I've turned it off to decrease server load. No sign of GPU work though :-( I thought there was going to be a huge backlog of OPN (GPU) work to do?

Someone above said they're just issuing CPU tasks at first, which makes sense if they're being very careful

I only have two machines that will do Rosetta VB tasks, since the other CPUs are too old and lack AVX. And one of those machines is the main one. And VB on a machine you're trying to interact with is ridiculous. It's like using a 286.

I don't get sluggishness with VB tasks.
Well, I did a little when I pushed things to the limit and tried to get 11 tasks running at once, but once I limited RAM to only allow 10, things improved a lot.

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My system gets very sluggish when i run lhc or quchempedia virtualbox tasks on it. The strange thing is that when i run equivalent workload on vmware it doesn't lag.

See WCG forum, Recent Threads, for more.

I'm banned from there :-) Twice :-)

You can read without signing in.

Paul.

Haining?

No.

Someone above said they're just issuing CPU tasks at first, which makes sense if they're being very careful

I was getting Android too yesterday, although today the Androids say work is reserved for other platforms.

I don't get sluggishness with VB tasks.
Well, I did a little when I pushed things to the limit and tried to get 11 tasks running at once, but once I limited RAM to only allow 10, things improved a lot.

I have tried it on an i5 8600K and a Ryzen 9 3900XT, both have a noticeably sluggish interface even with a 25% CPU load on VB and nothing else running. The Ryzen has 64GB RAM and the i5 has 48GB. Both have mid-range NVME drives for Windows 11 and Boinc. It does this with any VB project (Rosetta, LHC, Cosmology). What is it you're doing to stop this?

My system gets very sluggish when i run lhc or quchempedia virtualbox tasks on it. The strange thing is that when i run equivalent workload on vmware it doesn't lag.

I'm not familiar with VMWare, is this a similar thing to Vbox? I take it it's not for Boinc and you were running something else?

Paul.

Haining?

No.

Oh, I went to school with him. I thought the chances of Paul M H in the UK interested in computers was remote.

Lhc@home have native linux apps. I installed centos 8 stream on vmware workstation , and installed cvmfs bu using these guides
https://cvmfs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/cpt-quickstart.html and
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4971

Lhc@home have native linux apps. I installed centos 8 stream on vmware workstation , and installed cvmfs bu using these guides
https://cvmfs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/cpt-quickstart.html and
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4971

Does that use virtualisation technology in the CPU like Vbox does?

Yes. But for some reason doesn't make host system unusable.

Yes. But for some reason doesn't make host system unusable.

So it's a software problem not a hardware one, that doesn't surprise me.

I take it Boinc can only interface with Virtualbox?

Maybe it is a problem with VirtualBox Hardening? I probably should try to compile virtualbox without hardening and check.

Someone above said they're just issuing CPU tasks at first, which makes sense if they're being very careful

I was getting Android too yesterday, although today the Androids say work is reserved for other platforms.

Yes, I saw a couple of Android WCG tasks today for the first time

I don't get sluggishness with VB tasks.
Well, I did a little when I pushed things to the limit and tried to get 11 tasks running at once, but once I limited RAM to only allow 10, things improved a lot.

I have tried it on an i5 8600K and a Ryzen 9 3900XT, both have a noticeably sluggish interface even with a 25% CPU load on VB and nothing else running. The Ryzen has 64GB RAM and the i5 has 48GB. Both have mid-range NVME drives for Windows 11 and Boinc. It does this with any VB project (Rosetta, LHC, Cosmology). What is it you're doing to stop this?

I have an i3-8350K 4C Win10 16Gb RAM and a 5800X 8C/16T Win10 32Gb RAM - not a million miles off your two but much less RAM - and I'm doing nothing out of the ordinary.
iPlayer streaming in the background and some Excel work at most

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05/07/2022 20:27:46 | World Community Grid | Resetting project
05/07/2022 20:27:46 | World Community Grid | Detaching from project
05/07/2022 20:28:51 | Fetching configuration file from https://master.worldcommunitygrid.org/get_project_config.php
05/07/2022 20:29:48 | World Community Grid | Fetching scheduler list
05/07/2022 20:29:50 | World Community Grid | Master file download succeeded
05/07/2022 20:29:55 | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
05/07/2022 20:29:55 | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
05/07/2022 20:29:57 | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

Lol

13/07/2022 1:56:54 | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
13/07/2022 1:56:54 | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | This project seems to have changed its URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | Project has no tasks available
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds

Also, I assume that should be "https" not "http"

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WCG had some mis-configuration, now fixed after a couple of iterations.
May show http short term but IIRC comms is https.
See WCG forum for details.

Paul.

I have an i3-8350K 4C Win10 16Gb RAM and a 5800X 8C/16T Win10 32Gb RAM - not a million miles off your two but much less RAM - and I'm doing nothing out of the ordinary.
iPlayer streaming in the background and some Excel work at most

I find the problem occurs when I do simple things. Click the start menu and it takes 3 seconds to do it. There must be some important difference between our setups. Windows 10/11? I don't think it's the virtualbox version, I have the same problem with 5 and 6.Back last year when I had windows 10,. I don't recall virtualbox being such a nuisance slowing things down, I often ran LHC on all or most of the cores on my main machine I was internet browsing on.

WCG had some mis-configuration, now fixed after a couple of iterations.
May show http short term but IIRC comms is https.
See WCG forum for details.

Paul.

Which doesn't tell us why they're taking so bloody long to turn on the taps! CPU intermittent, Android virtually never, GPU none at all. Ridiculous.

WCG had some mis-configuration, now fixed after a couple of iterations.
May show http short term but IIRC comms is https.
See WCG forum for details.

Paul.

Which doesn't tell us why they're taking so bloody long to turn on the taps! CPU intermittent, Android virtually never, GPU none at all. Ridiculous.

Because if you would read their news forum section you would see they are having internal system to system communication problems among other really mind boggling IT issues. I can usually follow tech, but this is more like rack mounted server systems in a clean room vs a small rack system in an office.

7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | World Community Grid | URL https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 4889728; resource share 100
7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | | Checking presence of 459 project files
7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | | Suspending computation - user request
7/15/2022 9:32:11 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
7/15/2022 9:32:12 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
7/15/2022 9:42:22 AM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
7/15/2022 9:42:22 AM | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | This project seems to have changed its URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | Project has no tasks available
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds


7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks sent
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for OpenPandemics - COVID 19
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for OpenPandemics - COVID-19 - GPU
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for Mapping Cancer Markers
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for the applications you have selected.
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | Tasks for Intel GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them


Then at 6pm I got some stuff
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_00681_2
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_00200_2
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_01471_2
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_00082_2

And 2.5 hrs later it was done and no work available.

Because if you would read their news forum section you would see they are having internal system to system communication problems among other really mind boggling IT issues. I can usually follow tech, but this is more like rack mounted server systems in a clean room vs a small rack system in an office.

A multi billion dollar company with schoolboy errors. They need more than 3 techs.

And 2.5 hrs later it was done and no work available.

All my CPUs are running flat out on WCG. I've got loads of covid and rainfall, almost a 2 day queue on them all. It's just Androids and GPUs I can't get anything for.

UPDATE: Rainfall is coming in RIGHT NOW. Grab.

And they've changed 3 day to 6 day time limit.