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Message 104759 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 19:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 104749.  
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It's a pity you ended up with a slower drive because of it. This main PC has a 500GB SSD and a 4TB HDD. I want to replace the SSD (and even the HDD) with NVME, but lack of funds....
Slower? Faster than the HDD.
I meant slower than it would have been, by factor of 8 I think.

It's data storage, so super speed is not so important.
You can never have enough speed, especially when a few GB can be written at a time by VB.

But this bug cost me a lot of time, frustration and a bit of money.
Fuel costs to swap plus 5 euros more for SSD vs the M.2
Welcome to the club, Boinc is nothing but constant fustration.
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Message 104760 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 19:21:40 UTC - in response to Message 104750.  
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Ahh . . , 42 the answer to , Life , The universe , And everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch
Have you consumed more homebrew than me? And it's not lunch here, it's 3am, I should be sleeping.
42! DA and the Hitchhikers guide
Watch out for Marvin, Vogans and Disaster Area and lastly thanks for all the fish!
Yes I've seen it. But the "everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch" suggested I should use a breathalyser.
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Message 104761 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 19:44:06 UTC - in response to Message 104760.  

Ahh . . , 42 the answer to , Life , The universe , And everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch
Have you consumed more homebrew than me? And it's not lunch here, it's 3am, I should be sleeping.
42! DA and the Hitchhikers guide
Watch out for Marvin, Vogans and Disaster Area and lastly thanks for all the fish!
Yes I've seen it. But the "everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch" suggested I should use a breathalyser.


To many diluted PGB's over the night?
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Message 104762 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 19:46:28 UTC - in response to Message 104759.  

It's a pity you ended up with a slower drive because of it. This main PC has a 500GB SSD and a 4TB HDD. I want to replace the SSD (and even the HDD) with NVME, but lack of funds....
Slower? Faster than the HDD.
I meant slower than it would have been, by factor of 8 I think.

It's data storage, so super speed is not so important.
You can never have enough speed, especially when a few GB can be written at a time by VB.

But this bug cost me a lot of time, frustration and a bit of money.
Fuel costs to swap plus 5 euros more for SSD vs the M.2
Welcome to the club, Boinc is nothing but constant fustration.



First it was RAH, but now I am taping into the bugs of BOINC.
But it appears that tester guy and me are the only ones that discovered this bug.
If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
The stuff they were talking about in the language and testing was a bit over my head.
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Message 104764 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 19:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 104761.  

Yes I've seen it. But the "everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch" suggested I should use a breathalyser.
To many diluted PGB's over the night?
I was referring to Clair. What's a PGB? I brew my own.
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Message 104765 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 19:56:41 UTC - in response to Message 104762.  

First it was RAH, but now I am taping into the bugs of BOINC.
But it appears that tester guy and me are the only ones that discovered this bug.
If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
The stuff they were talking about in the language and testing was a bit over my head.
I see how the bug happened, it's the unfortunate way paths are written in Windows:
You specify a folder as D:\folder (note no \ on the end)
You specify the root directory as D:\ (note the \ on the end)
So when Boinc wants to add a filename or another folder under that, it's needs to add a \ to the end of the first one, but not the second, and was ending up with D:\\filename, which Windows rejected, the file containing info about your GPU wasn't written, and it then thought there was no GPU, as no information had been written about it.

We don't need it patched to use an M2. Just make a folder in it.

Yes they get very technical, but that's a good sign, it means they're investigating it.
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Message 104767 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 21:54:44 UTC - in response to Message 104762.  
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If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
WTF is so difficult about putting things in directory? Buy a drive, put things in a folder on it. Done.
The real question is why wouldn't you use one? It's been common sense since the days of DOS and it's limitations that you don't use the root directory of a drive for installing programmes or storing data.
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Message 104769 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 22:28:33 UTC - in response to Message 104767.  

If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
WTF is so difficult about putting things in directory? Buy a drive, put things in a folder on it. Done.
The real question is why wouldn't you use one? It's been common sense since the days of DOS and it's limitations that you don't use the root directory of a drive for installing programmes or storing data.
Because he was only using the drive for one purpose, no need for directories. DOS didn't have these silly security things like modern Windows. Anyway, the bug has been admitted by the programmers to be in Boinc - too many backslashes.
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Message 104774 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 13:38:15 UTC - in response to Message 104764.  

Yes I've seen it. But the "everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch" suggested I should use a breathalyser.
To many diluted PGB's over the night?
I was referring to Clair. What's a PGB? I brew my own.


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Message 104775 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 13:40:19 UTC - in response to Message 104769.  

If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
WTF is so difficult about putting things in directory? Buy a drive, put things in a folder on it. Done.
The real question is why wouldn't you use one? It's been common sense since the days of DOS and it's limitations that you don't use the root directory of a drive for installing programmes or storing data.
Because he was only using the drive for one purpose, no need for directories. DOS didn't have these silly security things like modern Windows. Anyway, the bug has been admitted by the programmers to be in Boinc - too many backslashes.



too many backslashes - I thought that might be what they were getting at.
Crazy...but at least they know now.
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Message 104781 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 19:28:24 UTC - in response to Message 104774.  

Yes I've seen it. But the "everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch" suggested I should use a breathalyser.
To many diluted PGB's over the night?
I was referring to Clair. What's a PGB? I brew my own.
If your a Douglas Adams Hitchikers fan you should know that drink.
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Message 104782 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 19:28:58 UTC - in response to Message 104775.  

If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
WTF is so difficult about putting things in directory? Buy a drive, put things in a folder on it. Done.
The real question is why wouldn't you use one? It's been common sense since the days of DOS and it's limitations that you don't use the root directory of a drive for installing programmes or storing data.
Because he was only using the drive for one purpose, no need for directories. DOS didn't have these silly security things like modern Windows. Anyway, the bug has been admitted by the programmers to be in Boinc - too many backslashes.



too many backslashes - I thought that might be what they were getting at.
Crazy...but at least they know now.
Whereas in here you have to use 4 to get 1!
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Message 104787 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 21:41:42 UTC

This error message should be included with Boinc:

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Message 104788 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 22:05:15 UTC

I Love some of those error messages :-)
Others drive me Nuts
Some of the modern ones actualy DO give a clue as to what is wrong , well sort of,
Win 98 was so much more fun . . . .
DOS 6.22 did my head in
And Algol is dim compared to Cobol
Don't ask . . . .
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Message 104789 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 22:10:51 UTC - in response to Message 104788.  

You could edit command.com in DOS with a text editor. You could change the error messages which were in plain text. I made the errors for my friend's computer very rude.
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Message 104790 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 0:43:37 UTC

Error - 1D10T - Human input error
Stop fault in Hexidecimal - 000000xfffffff - it`s broke and we don't know why.
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Message 104791 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 0:57:38 UTC

Computer: "Select password...."
User: [Beavis and Butthead giggle] "PENIS"
Computer: "Password rejected, not long enough"
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Message 104792 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 2:40:50 UTC

O` why did I decide to check the forum just before I go to bed . . . .
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Message 104793 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 3:00:16 UTC - in response to Message 104792.  

O` why did I decide to check the forum just before I go to bed . . . .
I have all forums email me. Easier to see them all in one place. Trouble is I check email before going to bed and end up in several long arguments. It's 3am. Days should be 25 hours so I can catch up.
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Message 104796 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 10:02:40 UTC - in response to Message 104793.  

Why can't message text be included in email notification?
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