Some problems that people are having may be due to BOINC 7.18.1, the latest version on LocutusOfBorg.
Don't upgrade. I had to return to 7.16.6, the one from Ubuntu Software (or 7.16.17 works OK too).

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Some problems that people are having may be due to BOINC 7.18.1, the latest version on LocutusOfBorg.
Don't upgrade. I had to return to 7.16.6, the one from Ubuntu Software (or 7.16.17 works OK too).

Why not just get it from Boinc themselves?

Why not just get it from Boinc themselves?

On Linux it may be easier to install it from a repository. It is different than Windows.

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Why not just get it from Boinc themselves?

On Linux it may be easier to install it from a repository. It is different than Windows.

I've used it briefly, it seems to have some stupid thing like Google Play or Apple Store on phones. I don't use those either. I download from the website of the software I want. I hate things that try to take over. Putting that "friendly" stuff on Linux is just odd, that's the last place I'd expect to see that. So how do you know you're getting the latest version? Best to get things from the horse's mouth.

I knew that when I tried to warn people of something of relevance to the actual operation of the project I would get a lot of irrelevant comments.
And I had a pretty good idea of where they would come from.

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I knew that when I tried to warn people of something of relevance to the actual operation of the project I would get a lot of irrelevant comments.
And I had a pretty good idea of where they would come from.

It's not irrelevant to point out Linux users have a lot more problems with Boinc. Are you too poor to buy Windows or something?

Take a look here https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1435811/Msi-X470-Gaming-Pro.html?page=32#manual and read the text to the side of the graphic.
I am in slot 2_1

As for slot 2_2 I am not sure what I have set up for SATA ports. I rarely go in there.
But I don't have much for SATA gear. DVD ROM and HDD and SDD I think.
So I could probably move them to other ports if 1 is not available.

Shit, I have the same board and wanted an M2 some day. Although mine has "plus max" on the end instead of "pro", not sure what that means.

Give up on a M.2 for BOINC. BOINC seems to hate them
I have had 2 and both did the same thing.
I have contacted Samsung EU and they will do some testing.
The store could do everything just fine with their test rig.
So it seems the software has an issue.
I can store stuff and partition and run CPU tasks off a M.2 but not GPU.
But firmware will not flash on a X470 with a 980 M.2
BOINC forum is lost. All the same checks and stuff I did they suggested.

I can give you a HWINFO64 HTML Gdrive link to the readout of my system and see if you can decode it, but that's about it. No one has answers.

Give up on a M.2 for BOINC. BOINC seems to hate them
I have had 2 and both did the same thing.
I have contacted Samsung EU and they will do some testing.
The store could do everything just fine with their test rig.
So it seems the software has an issue.
I can store stuff and partition and run CPU tasks off a M.2 but not GPU.
But firmware will not flash on a X470 with a 980 M.2
BOINC forum is lost. All the same checks and stuff I did they suggested.

I can give you a HWINFO64 HTML Gdrive link to the readout of my system and see if you can decode it, but that's about it. No one has answers.

I wonder if it's your board (which is worryingly similar to mine) or Boinc. Are Samsung going to try Boinc? Mind you not being able to flash it is also bad - are they going to use your model of board?

Give up on a M.2 for BOINC. BOINC seems to hate them
I have had 2 and both did the same thing.
I have contacted Samsung EU and they will do some testing.
The store could do everything just fine with their test rig.
So it seems the software has an issue.
I can store stuff and partition and run CPU tasks off a M.2 but not GPU.
But firmware will not flash on a X470 with a 980 M.2
BOINC forum is lost. All the same checks and stuff I did they suggested.

I can give you a HWINFO64 HTML Gdrive link to the readout of my system and see if you can decode it, but that's about it. No one has answers.

I wonder if it's your board (which is worryingly similar to mine) or Boinc. Are Samsung going to try Boinc? Mind you not being able to flash it is also bad - are they going to use your model of board?

I don't know. The chat CS people said they would pass all the info I gave them to the testing group.
It's up to them to figure out how to test things.

I should have the EVO next week. Just have to wait for the M.2 to get to the store.

[quote]It's tight, but if you go into Boinc Computing Preferences and on the Disk and Memory tab allow 95% for RAM, it should just about fit in the tasks asking for 3337.86Mb
Don't worry that it sounds a lot to give to Boinc. We've found the tasks generally don't use anything like that full amount in practise. It just allows you to get over this limit at the time of task launch.

I've put mine to 100%. It's only a rough guide anyway. Numberfields or something like that goes over what I ask. Most projects never reach it.

I didn't mention this at the time, but several months ago, pre VBox, when normal Rosetta tasks were asking for an inordinate amount of RAM before they'd start, I was asking the admins to cut back on the RAM demands (from 8 or 9Gb to something that would fit in a machine with only 4Gb RAM). They were reluctant and as part of my pleadings I was talking about how people were doing as much as they could to run tasks by increasing RAM and Disk space allocated to Boinc.

One of the points I made was one I got from you - that if it was possible to allocate 150% of RAM to Boinc, people would, because tasks never actually used that amount or anything near it while running - often less than 10% of it.

So, yes, allocating 100% of RAM to Boinc isn't actually the problem it might seem to be from a common-sense point of view.

I do try to pay attention, even to things that may appear a little crazy on the face of it

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One of the points I made was one I got from you - that if it was possible to allocate 150% of RAM to Boinc, people would, because tasks never actually used that amount or anything near it while running - often less than 10% of it.

Well bugger me from behind, someone took me seriously. I'm actually a very intelligent person with 1000% common sense, which is probably why nobody else has it anymore.

One of the points I made was one I got from you - that if it was possible to allocate 150% of RAM to Boinc, people would, because tasks never actually used that amount or anything near it while running - often less than 10% of it.

Well bugger me from behind, someone took me seriously. I'm actually a very intelligent person with 1000% common sense, which is probably why nobody else has it anymore.

This is a very good example of your posts.
One sentence that makes sense, while another that no-one in their right mind would believe.
Just because most of what you write is nonsense doesn't detract from the germ of an idea that has something to it.
I'm a glass half-full person.
(Well, tbh I'm not, but for the purposes of this weird role I've given myself, I am)

My point at the time being, people get angry or upset when tasks don't or can't run because they're so eager and keen to be able to contribute their CPU time for the project, so anything that can be done to make it possible for them to contribute as much as possible makes it win-win for everyone. And they met us halfway.

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Give up on a M.2 for BOINC. BOINC seems to hate them

I don't know. I have 3 computers running BOINC on M.2 drives. 2 on PCIE M.2, and one on a SATA M.2. All work fine . One is on Windows 11, two on Linux Mint 20.2 or 3. I had issues trying to run BOINC with Virtual Box on a Windows 10 computer, with 2.5 inch SATA SSD drives.

I am not saying that issues don't exist. But it is probably not M.2 per se. Possibly the type or brand of disk, the impolementation of the M.2 spec on the motherboard, or the driver. Similarly, I had issues with a cheap Chinese SSD (Foresee brand) that came bundled with my firewall hardware. It would simply not run FreeBSD (PFSense or OPNSense) correctly. Replacing the SSD with a cheap yet better one (Trancend) fixed the problem. The format was mSATA. Not exactly the same as an M.2 SATA, but the general idea applies.

Anyway, the issues could be with M.2 but more likely with something else revolving around the M.2 connexion such as the drive itself or the driver.

My 2 cents. hope it helps.

Give up on a M.2 for BOINC. BOINC seems to hate them

I don't know. I have 3 computers running BOINC on M.2 drives. 2 on PCIE M.2, and one on a SATA M.2. All work fine . One is on Windows 11, two on Linux Mint 20.2 or 3. I had issues trying to run BOINC with Virtual Box on a Windows 10 computer, with 2.5 inch SATA SSD drives.

I am not saying that issues don't exist. But it is probably not M.2 per se. Possibly the type or brand of disk, the impolementation of the M.2 spec on the motherboard, or the driver. Similarly, I had issues with a cheap Chinese SSD (Foresee brand) that came bundled with my firewall hardware. It would simply not run FreeBSD (PFSense or OPNSense) correctly. Replacing the SSD with a cheap yet better one (Trancend) fixed the problem. The format was mSATA. Not exactly the same as an M.2 SATA, but the general idea applies.

Anyway, the issues could be with M.2 but more likely with something else revolving around the M.2 connexion such as the drive itself or the driver.

My 2 cents. hope it helps.

It could be a board/drive thing sending mixed signals.
I'll repeat the scenario again, the M.2 will hold data and operate as a drive for windows purposes.
BUT as a BOINC data holder it wipes out the ability to see the GPU's (no windows errors, no errors from FAH either and no errors saying PCIe lanes were full) only the BOINC error saying no GPU's detected.
I asked in BOINC forum and they had no answers other than to check everything that we already checked here and what I have tried. I spent a week with a few hours a night trying to figure things out with no luck.

I'm not going to waste time or money to go through a bunch of M.2 drives to find one that will work.
I'm picking up my Samsung EVO 500GB (BOINC Data was stored on my EVO 250GB before Python made me determine I need a separate drive for Python and other projects as multiple python projects swallowed up the leftover drive space in addition to my other projects) this weekend. I'm running off a 1TB HDD now that is supposed to be my deep storage drive.

The drive was not defective, even though the Firmware could not be flashed (also odd since it flashed ok at the stores tech bench) and it could store information and read and write ok.

Just something about a M.2 980, a MSI x 470 gaming plus and BOINC mix that causes this.
Even dug down into how many PCIe lanes were in use and yes, I still have 4 left for a M.2 drive.

I'm just pushing my machine to use EVERY aspect of its capability, Vbox,normal boinc, gpu cards and the such along with a 8 core 16 thread processor (15 dedicated to BOINC) plus FAH and internet (spotify you tube, DVD playback)

One of the points I made was one I got from you - that if it was possible to allocate 150% of RAM to Boinc, people would, because tasks never actually used that amount or anything near it while running - often less than 10% of it.

Well bugger me from behind, someone took me seriously. I'm actually a very intelligent person with 1000% common sense, which is probably why nobody else has it anymore.

This is a very good example of your posts.
One sentence that makes sense, while another that no-one in their right mind would believe.
Just because most of what you write is nonsense doesn't detract from the germ of an idea that has something to it.
I'm a glass half-full person.
(Well, tbh I'm not, but for the purposes of this weird role I've given myself, I am)

My point at the time being, people get angry or upset when tasks don't or can't run because they're so eager and keen to be able to contribute their CPU time for the project, so anything that can be done to make it possible for them to contribute as much as possible makes it win-win for everyone. And they met us halfway.

You're going to have to tell me which of my sentences makes sense and which you don't believe.

I recently put in a Samsung 870 evo ssd sata3 2.5" drive on an asus Z9PE-D8 WS board , and it went in and works without problem , sort of . .
now my drive for backups `E` keeps unmounting itself and disappearing of the system and I have to "rescan disks" in `disk management` to use it,
and that is with 14 sata ports and 7 pcie slots to get lost in , and I have tried moving to other plugs cables etc
boinc works , even though I today found it using 325GB of disk space [and all the work units to go with it]
and more zombie tasks to kill

I just spent 4 hours shuffling 15 RAM sticks around between two Xeon servers to find what combination would work best. Sometimes one would be disabled due to a "membist failure" which I assume is a self test, even though I have that turned off in the BIOS. But in a different slot, that one is ok. All I was trying to do originally is stop them saying "press F1 to continue" at startup due to the RAM not being in the most efficient layout. Turns out I have 4 different "geometries" of RAM (never realised that would matter) and there's no way to make them both happy. But then I found a "disable F1 at startup" in the BIOS. Why didn't I see that before? Maybe it came in with a BIOS upgrade. Stupid Dell design!

You're going to have to tell me which of my sentences makes sense and which you don't believe.

You're probably the only person who doesn't know, especially as I already gave the answer as to which I paid attention to...

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different "geometries" of RAM

I take it you found the layout of ram `banks` like 2Rx4 and 4R4 on ram sticks shure do funky stuff if the board can`t take it

You're going to have to tell me which of my sentences makes sense and which you don't believe.

You're probably the only person who doesn't know, especially as I already gave the answer as to which I paid attention to...

I'm not going to waste time on your childish riddles.