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Message 108627 - Posted: 17 Oct 2023, 3:52:34 UTC - in response to Message 108626.  

It's my hip I need replacing. Not sure if I want to, sounds nasty, I hate operations.


When my hip started to hurt, my internist referred me to an orthopaedic surgeon. The surgeon made a couple of x-rays and said there are two ways to deal with it.

The first way is to inject something like cortisone into the joint. He said that often works for around six months. But additional injections become progressively less effective.

The second way is to do a hip replacement. There has been a lot of progress with this kind of surgery in the last decade or two. If I were younger, it is a one-day outpatient procedure. But for me they wanted to keep me overnight. Good thing too. On the next morning they did a final checkup prior to discharging me and it turned out my BP was 70/40 and they not only did not want to discharge me, they had me skip my BP medication. Apparently this is a common side-effect of the two anesthetics they used on me..

Well the first injection worked for six months and then the surgeon gave me the same choice, so I got a second injection. It worked for about three weeks, so we scheduled the operation.
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Message 108628 - Posted: 17 Oct 2023, 5:37:19 UTC - in response to Message 108627.  

When my hip started to hurt,
For some reason my leg hurts, random places along the front thigh muscle. My friend, a massage therapist, suggested I should get x-rayed, I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place. But he insisted 7 of his patients had needed a hip done after complaining to him about pain there. Sure enough, the xray showed I have hip joints which are slightly misshapen, so have worn out 2x faster than they should of. The "great British NHS" won't give me an operation. I'm not important enough. Looks like I either lie in a couple of years and tell them it's worse than it is, or pay 12 grand for the operation.

The first way is to inject something like cortisone into the joint. He said that often works for around six months. But additional injections become progressively less effective.
Sounds pointless.

The second way is to do a hip replacement. There has been a lot of progress with this kind of surgery in the last decade or two. If I were younger, it is a one-day outpatient procedure. But for me they wanted to keep me overnight. Good thing too. On the next morning they did a final checkup prior to discharging me and it turned out my BP was 70/40 and they not only did not want to discharge me, they had me skip my BP medication. Apparently this is a common side-effect of the two anaesthetics they used on me.
Do they put you out cold? There seems to be a barbaric tendancy nowadays to use local anaesthetics and you're awake while they operate on you! My BP is stupidly high, and I don't take medication, because none of the 4 they tried have any effect on me, so I guess I won't have that problem.
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Message 108630 - Posted: 17 Oct 2023, 23:06:21 UTC - in response to Message 108628.  
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When my hip started to hurt,
For some reason my leg hurts, random places along the front thigh muscle. My friend, a massage therapist, suggested I should get x-rayed, I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place. But he insisted 7 of his patients had needed a hip done after complaining to him about pain there. Sure enough, the xray showed I have hip joints which are slightly misshapen, so have worn out 2x faster than they should of. The "great British NHS" won't give me an operation. I'm not important enough. Looks like I either lie in a couple of years and tell them it's worse than it is, or pay 12 grand for the operation.

The first way is to inject something like cortisone into the joint. He said that often works for around six months. But additional injections become progressively less effective.
Sounds pointless.

The second way is to do a hip replacement. There has been a lot of progress with this kind of surgery in the last decade or two. If I were younger, it is a one-day outpatient procedure. But for me they wanted to keep me overnight. Good thing too. On the next morning they did a final checkup prior to discharging me and it turned out my BP was 70/40 and they not only did not want to discharge me, they had me skip my BP medication. Apparently this is a common side-effect of the two anaesthetics they used on me.
Do they put you out cold? There seems to be a barbaric tendancy nowadays to use local anaesthetics and you're awake while they operate on you! My BP is stupidly high, and I don't take medication, because none of the 4 they tried have any effect on me, so I guess I won't have that problem.


"I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place." It's not a matter of stupidity. That is called referred pain and it is a common thing, contrary to your knowledge.

The "barbaric tendency" to use only local anesthetics is reserved for people who are allergic to certain medications or who are old, infirm and have underlying conditions. It is sometimes used for expediency, because i can be used in same-day surgery. But usually, general anesthesia is used for hip replacements. They may also be moving you around during the procedure. I assisted in these when I was an Operating Room Technician.

In 2017 we drove west and toured the amazing Utah national parks. But my wife had severe hip pain and could hardly walk or stand up, so we could not fully appreciate the region's beauty. She had a hip replacement and was much better in a few months. Then she had shoulder surgery, which she said might have been worse than the hip surgery. By 2923, her other hip had deteriorated, so she had second hip replacement. She's great now.

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

You are always complaining that most people are sissies. Here's your chance to decide whether or not you are a sissy.
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Message 108631 - Posted: 18 Oct 2023, 12:31:18 UTC - in response to Message 108628.  

Do they put you out cold?


Yes.
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Message 108632 - Posted: 18 Oct 2023, 12:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 108630.  

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.


I suspect my hip replacement surgery would have been painful, but I got a moderate general anesthetic to begin with so I do not know. I was presumably on my back the whole time. When they did the heavy duty part of the surgery, they gave me a strong local anesthetic in the area of the operation. They removed the top of my leg bone and cleaned up the area of the hip. Insalled a ceramic ball in the top of he leg bone, a titanium socket in the bottom of the hip, and a miracle plastic bearing surface between them. Then put me back together. I forget if they sewed me up with thread or the self-dissolving kind. But I woke up about three hours after they began. I am told the procedure took less than an hour. They had me walk around the same day and do some exercises. The next day some physical therapy. They prescribed me some Oxycodone for pain if I needed it, but I was never in any pain, so I did not take any. They sent a physical therapist to my house 3x a week for less than an hour each time. Then I did outpatient therapy for a couple of months. I had no trouble driving. I did get a walker that I used for a couple of weeks, but after that it was more of a nuisance than a help, so I stopped using it.
At some point I asked my surgeon how long that plastic bearing would last and he said over 30 years. Since I do not expect to last another 30 years, I guess that will be OK.
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Message 108633 - Posted: 18 Oct 2023, 16:32:13 UTC - in response to Message 108630.  

"I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place." It's not a matter of stupidity. That is called referred pain and it is a common thing, contrary to your knowledge.
I do know about it (or have since summer when a friend told me of it) - but it's still horrendously stupid. Your car doesn't tell you it's out of oil when the petrol is low. We're wired up wrong.

The "barbaric tendency" to use only local anesthetics is reserved for people who are allergic to certain medications or who are old, infirm and have underlying conditions.
And dentists, who are pure evil.

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

You are always complaining that most people are sissies. Here's your chance to decide whether or not you are a sissy.
Everybody hates pain. That's normal.

Others have told me getting hip replacement is wonderful, and better than the real thing. Doesn't sound that way with your wife.

The question is, should I get the operation or not? At the moment I get a small amount of pain on my thigh when moving certain ways, which can be avoided by using straps round my leg to keep it straight. I cannot run, but everything else, including hillwalking, is possible. I couldn't get a straight answer out of the doctor, since she's told to lie to patients to avoid the NHS paying. Would a replacement hip improve me or not?
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Message 108634 - Posted: 18 Oct 2023, 16:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 108632.  

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.


I suspect my hip replacement surgery would have been painful, but I got a moderate general anesthetic to begin with so I do not know. I was presumably on my back the whole time. When they did the heavy duty part of the surgery, they gave me a strong local anesthetic in the area of the operation. They removed the top of my leg bone and cleaned up the area of the hip. Insalled a ceramic ball in the top of he leg bone, a titanium socket in the bottom of the hip, and a miracle plastic bearing surface between them. Then put me back together. I forget if they sewed me up with thread or the self-dissolving kind. But I woke up about three hours after they began. I am told the procedure took less than an hour. They had me walk around the same day and do some exercises. The next day some physical therapy. They prescribed me some Oxycodone for pain if I needed it, but I was never in any pain, so I did not take any. They sent a physical therapist to my house 3x a week for less than an hour each time. Then I did outpatient therapy for a couple of months. I had no trouble driving. I did get a walker that I used for a couple of weeks, but after that it was more of a nuisance than a help, so I stopped using it.
At some point I asked my surgeon how long that plastic bearing would last and he said over 30 years. Since I do not expect to last another 30 years, I guess that will be OK.
I think I'll postpone mine until it gets worse. Not being able to run and having to put a strap on when walking a long way is not as bad as what you describe.
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Message 108635 - Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 18:46:02 UTC - in response to Message 108633.  

"I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place." It's not a matter of stupidity. That is called referred pain and it is a common thing, contrary to your knowledge.
I do know about it (or have since summer when a friend told me of it) - but it's still horrendously stupid. Your car doesn't tell you it's out of oil when the petrol is low. We're wired up wrong.

The "barbaric tendency" to use only local anesthetics is reserved for people who are allergic to certain medications or who are old, infirm and have underlying conditions.
And dentists, who are pure evil.

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

You are always complaining that most people are sissies. Here's your chance to decide whether or not you are a sissy.
Everybody hates pain. That's normal.

Others have told me getting hip replacement is wonderful, and better than the real thing. Doesn't sound that way with your wife.

The question is, should I get the operation or not? At the moment I get a small amount of pain on my thigh when moving certain ways, which can be avoided by using straps round my leg to keep it straight. I cannot run, but everything else, including hillwalking, is possible. I couldn't get a straight answer out of the doctor, since she's told to lie to patients to avoid the NHS paying. Would a replacement hip improve me or not?


Jean-David Beyer was lucky, never having much pain. My wife had a lot of pain for weeks. Then she got tendonitis and was in pain for several months. Physical therapy helped that, now she's fine.

You are way too cynical, bitter and sound unhappy. Lighten up.
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Message 108636 - Posted: 20 Oct 2023, 3:25:59 UTC - in response to Message 108635.  

Jean-David Beyer was lucky, never having much pain. My wife had a lot of pain for weeks. Then she got tendonitis and was in pain for several months. Physical therapy helped that, now she's fine.

You are way too cynical, bitter and sound unhappy. Lighten up.
In your first sentence you tell me your wife suffered a lot, then you tell me not to be cynical (I assume you mean cynical about the operation and not one of you?) - if your wife had problems, I might too, I'll wait until I really need it.
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Message 108637 - Posted: 20 Oct 2023, 3:47:44 UTC - in response to Message 108635.  

Jean-David Beyer was lucky, never having much pain.


Maybe I was lucky in having chosen a very good orthopedic surgeon and a good hospital to have the surgery done in.
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Message 108638 - Posted: 20 Oct 2023, 3:56:59 UTC - in response to Message 108637.  

Jean-David Beyer was lucky, never having much pain.
Maybe I was lucky in having chosen a very good orthopedic surgeon and a good hospital to have the surgery done in.
You're in a country with a decent health system. Here in the UK, the average taxpayer has £300 a month stolen from them whether they like it or not to pay for the "NHS", a money pit which puts you on a 2 year waiting list, even if you're allowed onto it in the first place, I wasn't. I'll have to lie and exaggerate to even get on. Then when you do get operated on they screw everything up. You can go private, but you actually have to go through the NHS to arrange it, and then you've paid twice for the same thing. That's right, people with private healthcare insurance still pay the NHS they'll never use. Welcome to rip off Britain.
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Message 108642 - Posted: 23 Oct 2023, 18:49:36 UTC - in response to Message 108638.  

You're in a country with a decent health system.


Your data are old. USA has been falling over the years and now ...

US comes in last in health care rankings of high-income countries
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/04/health/us-health-care-rankings/index.html
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Message 108643 - Posted: 24 Oct 2023, 21:54:15 UTC - in response to Message 108642.  

You're in a country with a decent health system.
Your data are old. USA has been falling over the years and now ...

US comes in last in health care rankings of high-income countries
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/04/health/us-health-care-rankings/index.html
My data is comparing my family's experiences with yours.
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Message 108644 - Posted: 24 Oct 2023, 22:26:34 UTC - in response to Message 108632.  

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.


I suspect my hip replacement surgery would have been painful, but I got a moderate general anesthetic to begin with so I do not know. I was presumably on my back the whole time. When they did the heavy duty part of the surgery, they gave me a strong local anesthetic in the area of the operation. They removed the top of my leg bone and cleaned up the area of the hip. Insalled a ceramic ball in the top of he leg bone, a titanium socket in the bottom of the hip, and a miracle plastic bearing surface between them. Then put me back together. I forget if they sewed me up with thread or the self-dissolving kind. But I woke up about three hours after they began. I am told the procedure took less than an hour. They had me walk around the same day and do some exercises. The next day some physical therapy. They prescribed me some Oxycodone for pain if I needed it, but I was never in any pain, so I did not take any. They sent a physical therapist to my house 3x a week for less than an hour each time. Then I did outpatient therapy for a couple of months. I had no trouble driving. I did get a walker that I used for a couple of weeks, but after that it was more of a nuisance than a help, so I stopped using it.
At some point I asked my surgeon how long that plastic bearing would last and he said over 30 years. Since I do not expect to last another 30 years, I guess that will be OK.


"I forget if they sewed me up with thread or the self-dissolving kind. "

Usually, they put the self-absorbing sutures in muscle and underlying layers of facia and skin. They put silk of other fiber sutures to sew the wound together on the surface. At least that's what they did when I was an OR Tech years ago.
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Message 108687 - Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 6:34:01 UTC

Rosetta 4.2 work units are not completing within the allocated time. Preferences set to max (1day12hrs) but the WU's only run at about 3% per hour on my Win10Pro machine.
I cannot afford 24/7 power and only run system when solar panels working (about 10 hrs per day atm).
Can admin please arrange additional time please??
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Message 108690 - Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 6:43:20 UTC - in response to Message 108687.  

Rosetta 4.2 work units are not completing within the allocated time. Preferences set to max (1day12hrs) but the WU's only run at about 3% per hour on my Win10Pro machine.
Well obviously, 1 hour is about 3% of 1 day 12 hours. They're doing exactly as you told them.

I cannot afford 24/7 power and only run system when solar panels working (about 10 hrs per day atm).
There's a thing called batteries people usually add to solar systems. What do you do at night, light candles?

Can admin please arrange additional time please??
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Why set it to 1.5 days if you don't have it on that much?
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Message 108708 - Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 20:22:32 UTC

~Oh , what fun , Rosetta has expired - Tasks in progress 0
Not a single work unit to it`s name
Now if only it could do that to the spammers
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Message 108709 - Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 21:33:49 UTC - in response to Message 108708.  

I find it sad. I have received no climateprediction work in ages. And I get precious little Rosetta either. And seti@home is long gone. I get einstein, universe, and WCG most of the time.
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