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Message 101525 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:15:48 UTC - in response to Message 101483.  

Actually the average British IQ is 2 higher than the USA.
Was I talking about IQ, Mr. Nonsequiter? Hint: no, I was not.
Hint, what does the I in IQ stand for?

trimming or something
This is really interesting. Please tell us more about how trimming is defragmentation for SSDs.
Trimming is what a defrag program does when presented with an SSD, and it speeds it up just like defragging does.
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Message 101526 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:17:02 UTC - in response to Message 101485.  

YES a couple updates ago win10 DID fix it so that it does, before that though, and for those that are not being updated it does not and it did actual defragging instead of trimming. Defragging an SSD wastes time and resources as it's faster than any defragging can help, at least until you get into the 1 and 2TB range anyway. It's like pre-fetching should also be turned off as the SSD is fast enough to overcome any advantage it could make and it just wastes drive space.
I read that Windows 7 introduced proper SSD support. Why would they take it away in early 10 editions?
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Message 101527 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:18:08 UTC - in response to Message 101488.  

And I am an anti vaxxer. It's my body and my choice.

Simply.....no.
Vaccine is not ONLY a personal choice, but also a community choice.
Protect you and OTHER people.
You want to be protected, then you take precautions, don't expect me to do it for you. You can wear a mask and get a vaccine and be a pansy if you desire, I don't have to do it for you.
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Message 101528 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:19:02 UTC - in response to Message 101489.  

Actually the average British IQ is 2 higher than the USA.

Actualy the average Italian IQ is 2 higher than British (and 4 than USA).
So can i say that you are not smart? No.
IQ is, for me, almost crap.
You can say the average Italian is a little smarter than the average Brit. We're let down by Glasgow and Manchester. Japan is 4 higher than you.
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Message 101529 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:23:12 UTC - in response to Message 101492.  

SSDs have been around for what, seven years now?
The first 2.5" SSD was released in 1991.
It was probably around 2008 consumer 2.5" SATA SSDs became generally available, but their random performance was woeful, but by 2009 there were plenty of models available that left HDDs of the time well behind. (Anyone here remember the OCZ Vertex?
Yes, 5 of the 10 I bought failed catastrophically in a few months. 3 of the free replacements for those 5 also failed. Hence I believe that company is now bust.
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Message 101530 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:24:28 UTC - in response to Message 101527.  

You want to be protected, then you take precautions, don't expect me to do it for you. You can wear a mask and get a vaccine and be a pansy if you desire, I don't have to do it for you.
Weren't you the one complaining that the U.S. was not exporting vaccines, or was that somebody else?
I would not want to be complicit in your pansyism.
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Message 101531 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:25:29 UTC - in response to Message 101498.  

Actually random data kills HDD performance even more than it does on a SSD, due to the HDD heads having to be moved more often to more locations on the drive.
Maybe poorly expressed. I meant that a HDD doesn't care about the data in an area in which it intends to write, whereas it does matter to an SSD.
Which I guess means it's less likely for someone to recover the naughty data from your disk that you forgot to securely erase.
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Message 101532 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:27:18 UTC - in response to Message 101509.  

Maybe so, but when the correct terms aren't used, or correct terms are used incorrectly, confusion results. And then that can often lead to never ending heated arguments...
How's life treating you there in Trumpworld, fam?


I don't believe we need to degrade into the politics of one another, we have already degraded into the size of ones dick!!!

This is about crunching for Rosetta and other Projects no matter WHAT the politics of the cruncher may be!!
Indeed, left wingers with only 5 inches are welcome here.
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Message 101533 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 101511.  

Maybe so, but when the correct terms aren't used, or correct terms are used incorrectly, confusion results. And then that can often lead to never ending heated arguments...
How's life treating you there in Trumpworld, fam?
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He probably thinks NT is a US state.
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Message 101534 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:29:06 UTC - in response to Message 101530.  

You want to be protected, then you take precautions, don't expect me to do it for you. You can wear a mask and get a vaccine and be a pansy if you desire, I don't have to do it for you.
Weren't you the one complaining that the U.S. was not exporting vaccines, or was that somebody else?
I would not want to be complicit in your pansyism.
Certainly wasn't me, I don't care what vaccines go where, since I'm not having one.
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Message 101536 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 17:47:55 UTC - in response to Message 101534.  

Certainly wasn't me, I don't care what vaccines go where, since I'm not having one.

OK. I am impressed how much this is a virus of choice in many cases, though not so much if you have to go out and work, say in a meat-packing plant.
But otherwise you can wear masks and isolate for the most part. If that is not your thing, you don't have to.
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Message 101537 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 18:03:52 UTC - in response to Message 101536.  

Certainly wasn't me, I don't care what vaccines go where, since I'm not having one.
OK. I am impressed how much this is a virus of choice in many cases, though not so much if you have to go out and work, say in a meat-packing plant.
But otherwise you can wear masks and isolate for the most part. If that is not your thing, you don't have to.
There's a cool game you can play, pretend magnetism. If you get too close to some people, they'll reverse away from you. I must see what the top speed of a human in reverse is.
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Message 101538 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 18:10:32 UTC - in response to Message 101537.  

There's a cool game you can play, pretend magnetism. If you get too close to some people, they'll reverse away from you. I must see what the top speed of a human in reverse is.

If all the virus deniers would label themselves, we could find out.
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Message 101540 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 18:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 101493.  

Looks like another batch of dodgy Tasks.

norn_struct_profile_layered_design_TMWFYIV_ has about a 50% failure rate at present. It runs to complettion, then errors out when trying to return the result.

<core_client_version>7.16.11</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
command: projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/rosetta_4.20_windows_x86_64.exe -run:protocol jd2_scripting -parser:protocol norn_pssm_layered_nocart_design.xml -parser:script_vars pssm=4716650f04d7b54da760d38cfe51965a_1kq1A_L7L7L7L7L5L2_63_TrR_FOLD_1_0_0.25.pssm aacompfile=TMWFYIV_0.05_0.02_0.03_0.04_0.05_0.06_0.10.comp wts=beta_nov16.wts @beta_nov16.flags -in:file:boinc_wu_zip 4716650f04d7b54da760d38cfe51965a_1kq1A_L7L7L7L7L5L2_63_TrR_FOLD_1_0_0.25.zip -in:file:s 4716650f04d7b54da760d38cfe51965a_1kq1A_L7L7L7L7L5L2_63_TrR_FOLD_1_0_0.25.pdb -silent_gz -mute all -out:file:silent default.out -nstruct 10000 -cpu_run_time 28800 -boinc:max_nstruct 20000 -checkpoint_interval 120 -database minirosetta_database -in::file::zip minirosetta_database.zip -boinc::watchdog -boinc::cpu_run_timeout 36000 -run::rng mt19937 -constant_seed -jran 1199775
Using database: database_357d5d93529_n_methylminirosetta_database
WARNING! attempt to create gzipped file ../../projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/norn_struct_profile_layered_design_TMWFYIV_0.05_0.02_0.03_0.04_0.05_0.06_0.10_beta_nocart_4716650f04d7b54da760d38cfe51965a_1kq1A_L7L7L7L7L5L2_63_TrR_FOLD_1_0_0.25_SAVE_ALL_OUT_1391598_1_0_r496735313_0 failed.
======================================================
DONE ::    98 starting structures  28765.3 cpu seconds
This process generated     98 decoys from      98 attempts
======================================================
BOINC :: WS_max 6.35744e+08
17:39:41 (3732): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
<message>
upload failure: <file_xfer_error>
  <file_name>norn_struct_profile_layered_design_TMWFYIV_0.05_0.02_0.03_0.04_0.05_0.06_0.10_beta_nocart_4716650f04d7b54da760d38cfe51965a_1kq1A_L7L7L7L7L5L2_63_TrR_FOLD_1_0_0.25_SAVE_ALL_OUT_1391598_1_0_r496735313_0</file_name>
  <error_code>-240 (stat() failed)</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>
</message>
]]>

Just to make it known here too, all these tasks are being aborted by the server as, while the tasks run fine, the result files weren't getting back to them - likely a too-long-filename error

WARNING! attempt to create gzipped file ../../projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/norn_struct_profile_layered_design_TMWFYIV_0.05_0.02_0.03_0.04_0.05_0.06_0.10_beta_nocart_4716650f04d7b54da760d38cfe51965a_1kq1A_L7L7L7L7L5L2_63_TrR_FOLD_1_0_0.25_SAVE_ALL_OUT_1391598_1_0_r496735313_0 failed.
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Message 101543 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 21:51:25 UTC - in response to Message 101526.  

YES a couple updates ago win10 DID fix it so that it does, before that though, and for those that are not being updated it does not and it did actual defragging instead of trimming. Defragging an SSD wastes time and resources as it's faster than any defragging can help, at least until you get into the 1 and 2TB range anyway. It's like pre-fetching should also be turned off as the SSD is fast enough to overcome any advantage it could make and it just wastes drive space.


I read that Windows 7 introduced proper SSD support. Why would they take it away in early 10 editions?


Not an MS programmer so no clue
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Message 101544 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 22:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 101534.  

You want to be protected, then you take precautions, don't expect me to do it for you. You can wear a mask and get a vaccine and be a pansy if you desire, I don't have to do it for you.
Weren't you the one complaining that the U.S. was not exporting vaccines, or was that somebody else?
I would not want to be complicit in your pansyism.


Certainly wasn't me, I don't care what vaccines go where, since I'm not having one.


Except when you go see loved ones and they get sick.....

Did you see the guy in Spain just got charged for causing 22 people to die because HE refused to wear and mask and they all got sick and died from him?

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2021/04/25/spanish-man-charged-with-infecting-22-people-with-covid-19/

I see this happening in more and more Countries as they struggle to control the hotspots, ie India has 330K people PER DAY getting infected due to a religious practice of communal bathing in a river or the Hasidic Jews in New York City, USA who are having weddings with 10k people showing up at a time!!!
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Message 101545 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 22:10:39 UTC - in response to Message 101524.  

No reason wear levelling can't work when the drive is nearly full. You automatically move the stuff that never gets changed onto the half worn out part.
I fully understand why Bill Gates wants to inject you with microchips. Imagine the billions -- nay, trillions he will reap from stealing your SDD ideas.

If only he knew that he could get them for free by reading this board.
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Message 101546 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 22:14:53 UTC - in response to Message 101525.  

Trimming is what a defrag program does when presented with an SSD, and it speeds it up just like defragging does.
You know what else is a defragging program? Overclocking! Because it speeds up your system just like defragging does.

Dunning-Kruger FTW
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Message 101547 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 22:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 101526.  

I read that Windows 7 introduced proper SSD support. Why would they take it away in early 10 editions?
You read that Win 7 supports SSDs, through the updates. Not out of the box back in 2009.

Do you know how to turn on your computer, or do you have to have someone do it for you?
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Message 101548 - Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 22:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 101532.  

left wingers with only 5 inches are welcome here.
Huffer enjoys Karen arguments about wearing masks and thinking about the size of BOINC users. Quickly, lads, swipe right before this treasure gets away!
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