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Message 110207 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 3:27:28 UTC

Problem is with Curl. Chrome doesn't have any problems connecting.
Complain here: https://github.com/curl/curl/issues
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Message 110208 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 3:34:23 UTC - in response to Message 110206.  
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My original account 'danwat1234' seems to have been deleted serverside tonight.
Unlikely.

This may help.
Forgot your account info?



I have about 320 machines hungry for work. Please don't make me reset the project on all of them.
There is presently no work available here.
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Message 110210 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 3:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 110208.  
Last modified: 14 Dec 2024, 3:54:34 UTC

It is true & there is another user same story tonight; https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?nowrap=true&id=15446.

"No such user There is no user with email address danwat1234@aol.com.
Try reentering your email address."

authenticator method;
Login failedThere is no account with that authenticator. Please try again.

"There is presently no work available here." Yes partially because my farm had begun downloading them in just the past few days. Was over 5000 yesterday. Much of my farm is munching on R WUs now. Guess Rosetta will have to reissue as I cannot submit. I'm in this for the long-haul
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Message 110211 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 3:54:04 UTC

Page is still indexed but user no longer exists.

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Message 110212 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 3:58:24 UTC - in response to Message 110211.  

Ditto for me. [img] https://imgur.com/a/3dqmpuO [/img][/img]
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Message 110213 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 3:59:16 UTC - in response to Message 110210.  

Network issues can result in a new host being created- but i've never come across an account suddenly changing hands, let alone 2.


Unfortunately i've not got the slightest idea of what can be done as there is absolutely zero interaction with the project personnel here.
If you can find a way to contact any of them, then maybe something can be done, but i don't like your chances.
Good luck.
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Message 110214 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 4:02:11 UTC
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Maybe email ipdadmin@uw.edu and dabaker@uw.edu?
Found emails here: https://www.bakerlab.org/contact/
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Message 110215 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 4:24:33 UTC - in response to Message 110213.  

Did not change hands. I created another acct with different email. Kijik Wolf probably did the same. Sent an email in regards to both of us.
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Message 110217 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 4:47:14 UTC - in response to Message 110215.  

Did not change hands.
It was yours, now it's not yours and it hasn't been deleted, so that makes it someone else's (even if that is nobody). Sounds like changing hands to me.
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Message 110218 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 4:51:30 UTC
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When i open https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=297965 it says "No such user 297965"
It looks like deleted account for me.
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Message 110219 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 4:51:41 UTC - in response to Message 110217.  
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In what way do you see 'danwat1234' as not deleted? Every which way it has been obliterated. It could be suspended and showing as deleted and reversible but who knows, i did not try creating another account with same email did not want to risk anything.
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Here is a May 2024 snapshot for danwat1234; https://web.archive.org/web/20240526034912/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=297965
https://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_user.php?cpid=33c55b16c9b0fcc5446bc4e21803fec4

Unable to find snapshot for the other person Kijik Wolf 1577939 but https://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_user.php?cpid=b3a80944027132935da5b57782598058
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Message 110220 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 7:38:00 UTC

My Acount is active since days, get atm a lot of resends.
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Message 110221 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 8:01:38 UTC - in response to Message 110208.  
Last modified: 14 Dec 2024, 8:31:38 UTC

Hey bud. My account was straight up deleted. I didn't forget the credentials. I posted about the issue here https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=15446

And I'm not the only one since danwat here is having the same problem. Going through the list of top hosts, I see numerous "Anonymous" accounts and I suspect those are accounts that have also been affected.

Something or someone in the last few days caused MULTIPLE accounts to be deleted. Obviously it's not life-threatening or the end of the world. Simply annoying. I expect more people to speak up after they realize what's happened, too.
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Message 110223 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 8:12:09 UTC
Last modified: 14 Dec 2024, 9:11:49 UTC

My account has gone missing in action also. It's happening and I know my sign-on, the issue is with Rosetta's server. I created this account since I currently don't exist in Rosetta world.

My WU's for my account Peak7100 (mives58@att.net) are uploading to who knows where but not reporting since I don't exist anymore.

https://www.google.com/search?domains=https%3A%2F%2Fboinc.bakerlab.org%2Frosetta%2F&sitesearch=https%3A%2F%2Fboinc.bakerlab.org%2Frosetta%2F&q=151100
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Message 110224 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 9:55:09 UTC

My account has gone missing too (this is a new one I just created to be able to post here). This morning I noticed that BOINC was complaining about my account key being missing or incorrect, and suggesting to remove the project and add it again. I tried to log in the website, thinking that maybe my password had expired, but I got an error saying that there is no account with my email. I haven't made changes to my account in ages, and I've been completing Rosetta tasks in the last weeks without any problem.

https://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_user.php?cpid=24a306e063176d11f306d012c2adf8b6&html=1
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Message 110226 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 10:41:27 UTC

The Scheduler beginning to work :-)
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Message 110227 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 10:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 110226.  

The Scheduler beginning to work :-)
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It hadn't stopped.

boinc-process looks as though it might be coming back to life though- some functions are showing as running again, although most are still dead.
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Message 110230 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 18:43:01 UTC

Concerning the missing accounts, boincstats shows corresponding data:

https://www.boincstats.com/stats/14/user/list/0/1000/0
The "last day" rank up numbers show all users at the 100th place rising 5 positions, corresponding to 5 users missing in the top 100, so 5% of user accounts went missing there.
Similar scaling at the 1000th place, rising 65 positions corresponding to 65 users missing within the top 1000 = 6.5%.

At the same time the credits of those accounts vanished from the total as well:
https://www.boincstats.com/stats/14/project/detail/credit
https://www.boincstats.com/stats/14/project/detail/lastDays

Yesterday, the total credit balance of the project was 157,333,935,910.
Today it's 151,216,469,526.
So 6,117,466,384 credits (6.1 BILLION credits, 3.9% of total) vanished, as shown by the massive column going negative in the credits per day, today.
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Message 110231 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 18:45:57 UTC

I wonder what happened to forum posts by missing accounts?
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Message 110232 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 20:11:40 UTC
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This list sorted by rising credits per day, starting in the deep negative, should contain at least a subset of the missing accounts (~5050 at this time):
https://www.boincstats.com/stats/-1/user/list/13/0/0

I suspect there was a massive purge, intentional or unintentional, and it's either not fully synchronized with externals sites, or masked by other projects adding more credits daily than have been lost in total by rosetta.

With old google results I found something else interesting:
The alphabetical user list, containing old pages. Example:

- R -

User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 1 of 8
Last updated 14 Dec 2024, 12:50:08 UTC

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_1.html

User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 8 of 8
Last updated 14 Dec 2024, 12:50:08 UTC

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_8.html

User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 9 of 56
Last updated 13 Dec 2024, 12:50:39 UTC

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_9.html

User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 56 of 56
Last updated 13 Dec 2024, 12:50:39 UTC

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_56.html

-> ~ 86% of all users starting with "R" missing

And you can do that for every character:

- A -
User Profiles - Names beginning with A: Page 9 of 9
Last updated 14 Dec 2024, 12:50:08 UTC

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_A_9.html

User Profiles - Names beginning with A: Page 10 of 68
Last updated 13 Dec 2024, 12:50:40 UTC

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_A_10.html

-> ~ 87% of all users starting with "A" missing


Edit:
A more complete comparison of the magnitude of this purge - Profiles by country:
Snapshot February 2024:
http://web.archive.org/web/20240227133833/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_country.html
∑ 10,317

Today:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_country.html
∑ 1,363

Edit 2: Deltas
Profiles per Country (sum)
2024-02-26 10317
2024-12-14 1363
∆: -8954

Users with credit
2024-12-13 1381403
2024-12-14 1373594
∆: -7809

Users with recent credit
2024-12-13 13749
2024-12-14 13628
∆: -121
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