A few RB tasks available right now fwiw

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When will rosetta beta stop being beta and replace rosetta 4.20?

When will rosetta beta stop being beta and replace rosetta 4.20?

How long is a piece of string . . . . . .

Usual angle error...

(0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)</message>
<stderr_txt>
[ ERROR ]: Caught exception:

File: C:cygwin64homeboinc4.17Rosettamainsourcesrccore/pack/dunbrack/SingleResidueDunbrackLibrary.hh:306
chi angle must be between -180 and 180: -nan(ind)
------------------------ Begin developer's backtrace -------------------------
BACKTRACE:
------------------------- End developer's backtrace --------------------------

AN INTERNAL ERROR HAS OCCURED. PLEASE SEE THE CONTENTS OF ROSETTA_CRASH.log FOR DETAILS.

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Haven't been here for a while.
Just tried to read this thread, but stopped after a while.

Seems like a lot of users (actuall just one) are having a great time here!

But I would suggest to do more crunching and less posting.

Guys and Gals: Just relax.

Cheers to all ...

My computers do the crunching, leaving me free to piss people off.

And you seem to excel at that. :>))

When will rosetta beta stop being beta and replace rosetta 4.20?

And where did version 5 go?

When will rosetta beta stop being beta and replace rosetta 4.20?

How long is a piece of string . . . . . .

That can be quantified easily using a tapemeasure and is therefore a monumentally stupid phrase. Maybe if it was a piece of string travelling at the speed of light....

Usual angle error...

(0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)</message>
<stderr_txt>
[ ERROR ]: Caught exception:

File: C:cygwin64homeboinc4.17Rosettamainsourcesrccore/pack/dunbrack/SingleResidueDunbrackLibrary.hh:306
chi angle must be between -180 and 180: -nan(ind)
------------------------ Begin developer's backtrace -------------------------
BACKTRACE:
------------------------- End developer's backtrace --------------------------

AN INTERNAL ERROR HAS OCCURED. PLEASE SEE THE CONTENTS OF ROSETTA_CRASH.log FOR DETAILS.

Rosetta has discovered a new dimension. Let's call it "twist".

My computers do the crunching, leaving me free to piss people off.

And you seem to excel at that. :>))

They deserve to be pissed off. I do delight in correcting the gullible.

When will rosetta beta stop being beta and replace rosetta 4.20?

And where did version 5 go?

The same place as windows 9 . . . . . . . .

String is either a theory , so therefore not a definitive thing that can be measured accurately
Or can be used as in "The Goodies" episode for replacing knee joints , Raymond Baxter seemed ok with it :)

When will rosetta beta stop being beta and replace rosetta 4.20?

And where did version 5 go?

The same place as windows 9 . . . . . . . .

Ah, 9 is "no" in German, 5 is "sank" in French. They don't want to sink.

String is either a theory , so therefore not a definitive thing that can be measured accurately

They must be measuring them by now. What are those boffins at LHC playing at?

Or can be used as in "The Goodies" episode for replacing knee joints, Raymond Baxter seemed ok with it :)

It's my hip I need replacing. Not sure if I want to, sounds nasty, I hate operations.

It's my hip I need replacing. Not sure if I want to, sounds nasty, I hate operations.

When my hip started to hurt, my internist referred me to an orthopaedic surgeon. The surgeon made a couple of x-rays and said there are two ways to deal with it.

The first way is to inject something like cortisone into the joint. He said that often works for around six months. But additional injections become progressively less effective.

The second way is to do a hip replacement. There has been a lot of progress with this kind of surgery in the last decade or two. If I were younger, it is a one-day outpatient procedure. But for me they wanted to keep me overnight. Good thing too. On the next morning they did a final checkup prior to discharging me and it turned out my BP was 70/40 and they not only did not want to discharge me, they had me skip my BP medication. Apparently this is a common side-effect of the two anesthetics they used on me..

Well the first injection worked for six months and then the surgeon gave me the same choice, so I got a second injection. It worked for about three weeks, so we scheduled the operation.

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When my hip started to hurt,

For some reason my leg hurts, random places along the front thigh muscle. My friend, a massage therapist, suggested I should get x-rayed, I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place. But he insisted 7 of his patients had needed a hip done after complaining to him about pain there. Sure enough, the xray showed I have hip joints which are slightly misshapen, so have worn out 2x faster than they should of. The "great British NHS" won't give me an operation. I'm not important enough. Looks like I either lie in a couple of years and tell them it's worse than it is, or pay 12 grand for the operation.

The first way is to inject something like cortisone into the joint. He said that often works for around six months. But additional injections become progressively less effective.

Sounds pointless.

The second way is to do a hip replacement. There has been a lot of progress with this kind of surgery in the last decade or two. If I were younger, it is a one-day outpatient procedure. But for me they wanted to keep me overnight. Good thing too. On the next morning they did a final checkup prior to discharging me and it turned out my BP was 70/40 and they not only did not want to discharge me, they had me skip my BP medication. Apparently this is a common side-effect of the two anaesthetics they used on me.

Do they put you out cold? There seems to be a barbaric tendancy nowadays to use local anaesthetics and you're awake while they operate on you! My BP is stupidly high, and I don't take medication, because none of the 4 they tried have any effect on me, so I guess I won't have that problem.

When my hip started to hurt,

For some reason my leg hurts, random places along the front thigh muscle. My friend, a massage therapist, suggested I should get x-rayed, I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place. But he insisted 7 of his patients had needed a hip done after complaining to him about pain there. Sure enough, the xray showed I have hip joints which are slightly misshapen, so have worn out 2x faster than they should of. The "great British NHS" won't give me an operation. I'm not important enough. Looks like I either lie in a couple of years and tell them it's worse than it is, or pay 12 grand for the operation.

The first way is to inject something like cortisone into the joint. He said that often works for around six months. But additional injections become progressively less effective.

Sounds pointless.

The second way is to do a hip replacement. There has been a lot of progress with this kind of surgery in the last decade or two. If I were younger, it is a one-day outpatient procedure. But for me they wanted to keep me overnight. Good thing too. On the next morning they did a final checkup prior to discharging me and it turned out my BP was 70/40 and they not only did not want to discharge me, they had me skip my BP medication. Apparently this is a common side-effect of the two anaesthetics they used on me.

Do they put you out cold? There seems to be a barbaric tendancy nowadays to use local anaesthetics and you're awake while they operate on you! My BP is stupidly high, and I don't take medication, because none of the 4 they tried have any effect on me, so I guess I won't have that problem.

"I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place." It's not a matter of stupidity. That is called referred pain and it is a common thing, contrary to your knowledge.

The "barbaric tendency" to use only local anesthetics is reserved for people who are allergic to certain medications or who are old, infirm and have underlying conditions. It is sometimes used for expediency, because i can be used in same-day surgery. But usually, general anesthesia is used for hip replacements. They may also be moving you around during the procedure. I assisted in these when I was an Operating Room Technician.

In 2017 we drove west and toured the amazing Utah national parks. But my wife had severe hip pain and could hardly walk or stand up, so we could not fully appreciate the region's beauty. She had a hip replacement and was much better in a few months. Then she had shoulder surgery, which she said might have been worse than the hip surgery. By 2923, her other hip had deteriorated, so she had second hip replacement. She's great now.

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

You are always complaining that most people are sissies. Here's your chance to decide whether or not you are a sissy.

Do they put you out cold?

Yes.

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Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

I suspect my hip replacement surgery would have been painful, but I got a moderate general anesthetic to begin with so I do not know. I was presumably on my back the whole time. When they did the heavy duty part of the surgery, they gave me a strong local anesthetic in the area of the operation. They removed the top of my leg bone and cleaned up the area of the hip. Insalled a ceramic ball in the top of he leg bone, a titanium socket in the bottom of the hip, and a miracle plastic bearing surface between them. Then put me back together. I forget if they sewed me up with thread or the self-dissolving kind. But I woke up about three hours after they began. I am told the procedure took less than an hour. They had me walk around the same day and do some exercises. The next day some physical therapy. They prescribed me some Oxycodone for pain if I needed it, but I was never in any pain, so I did not take any. They sent a physical therapist to my house 3x a week for less than an hour each time. Then I did outpatient therapy for a couple of months. I had no trouble driving. I did get a walker that I used for a couple of weeks, but after that it was more of a nuisance than a help, so I stopped using it.
At some point I asked my surgeon how long that plastic bearing would last and he said over 30 years. Since I do not expect to last another 30 years, I guess that will be OK.

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"I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place." It's not a matter of stupidity. That is called referred pain and it is a common thing, contrary to your knowledge.

I do know about it (or have since summer when a friend told me of it) - but it's still horrendously stupid. Your car doesn't tell you it's out of oil when the petrol is low. We're wired up wrong.

The "barbaric tendency" to use only local anesthetics is reserved for people who are allergic to certain medications or who are old, infirm and have underlying conditions.

And dentists, who are pure evil.

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

You are always complaining that most people are sissies. Here's your chance to decide whether or not you are a sissy.

Everybody hates pain. That's normal.

Others have told me getting hip replacement is wonderful, and better than the real thing. Doesn't sound that way with your wife.

The question is, should I get the operation or not? At the moment I get a small amount of pain on my thigh when moving certain ways, which can be avoided by using straps round my leg to keep it straight. I cannot run, but everything else, including hillwalking, is possible. I couldn't get a straight answer out of the doctor, since she's told to lie to patients to avoid the NHS paying. Would a replacement hip improve me or not?

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

I suspect my hip replacement surgery would have been painful, but I got a moderate general anesthetic to begin with so I do not know. I was presumably on my back the whole time. When they did the heavy duty part of the surgery, they gave me a strong local anesthetic in the area of the operation. They removed the top of my leg bone and cleaned up the area of the hip. Insalled a ceramic ball in the top of he leg bone, a titanium socket in the bottom of the hip, and a miracle plastic bearing surface between them. Then put me back together. I forget if they sewed me up with thread or the self-dissolving kind. But I woke up about three hours after they began. I am told the procedure took less than an hour. They had me walk around the same day and do some exercises. The next day some physical therapy. They prescribed me some Oxycodone for pain if I needed it, but I was never in any pain, so I did not take any. They sent a physical therapist to my house 3x a week for less than an hour each time. Then I did outpatient therapy for a couple of months. I had no trouble driving. I did get a walker that I used for a couple of weeks, but after that it was more of a nuisance than a help, so I stopped using it.
At some point I asked my surgeon how long that plastic bearing would last and he said over 30 years. Since I do not expect to last another 30 years, I guess that will be OK.

I think I'll postpone mine until it gets worse. Not being able to run and having to put a strap on when walking a long way is not as bad as what you describe.

"I'd never thought the human body would be stupid enough to put the pain in the wrong place." It's not a matter of stupidity. That is called referred pain and it is a common thing, contrary to your knowledge.

I do know about it (or have since summer when a friend told me of it) - but it's still horrendously stupid. Your car doesn't tell you it's out of oil when the petrol is low. We're wired up wrong.

The "barbaric tendency" to use only local anesthetics is reserved for people who are allergic to certain medications or who are old, infirm and have underlying conditions.

And dentists, who are pure evil.

Surgery is painful, no getting around it. She just finished a round of physical therapy and is getting along very well, almost without a limp. My wife is not tolerant of pain. But if she can do it, so can you. Don't be a wimp.

You are always complaining that most people are sissies. Here's your chance to decide whether or not you are a sissy.

Everybody hates pain. That's normal.

Others have told me getting hip replacement is wonderful, and better than the real thing. Doesn't sound that way with your wife.

The question is, should I get the operation or not? At the moment I get a small amount of pain on my thigh when moving certain ways, which can be avoided by using straps round my leg to keep it straight. I cannot run, but everything else, including hillwalking, is possible. I couldn't get a straight answer out of the doctor, since she's told to lie to patients to avoid the NHS paying. Would a replacement hip improve me or not?

Jean-David Beyer was lucky, never having much pain. My wife had a lot of pain for weeks. Then she got tendonitis and was in pain for several months. Physical therapy helped that, now she's fine.

You are way too cynical, bitter and sound unhappy. Lighten up.

Jean-David Beyer was lucky, never having much pain. My wife had a lot of pain for weeks. Then she got tendonitis and was in pain for several months. Physical therapy helped that, now she's fine.

You are way too cynical, bitter and sound unhappy. Lighten up.

In your first sentence you tell me your wife suffered a lot, then you tell me not to be cynical (I assume you mean cynical about the operation and not one of you?) - if your wife had problems, I might too, I'll wait until I really need it.