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Message 108273 - Posted: 2 Apr 2023, 5:44:22 UTC - in response to Message 108263.  

[Quote]I am not a good tyoist.
(Titter)

I type pretty fast, but make a lot of mistakes.
My browser (and I assume all will do this) underlines spelling errors in red as you type. A quick glance before you send is all that's needed. Or you could even read the whole thing back.[quote]

Sure, gmail and most other browsers indicate spelling and grammar errors.

But BOINC does not.

Obviously, if it did, I would make those corrections. But it doesn't and I miss them.
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Message 108274 - Posted: 2 Apr 2023, 7:47:31 UTC - in response to Message 108272.  
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I haven't gotten a Rosetta file in a few days.
What's with ye olde English?

The server status says zero ready to send.

Obviously something is happening.
Yeah, they ran out. Probably putting stuff in test tubes.
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Message 108275 - Posted: 2 Apr 2023, 7:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 108273.  
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Sure, gmail and most other browsers
Gmail isn't a browser. It's an email system. Irrelevant here.

indicate spelling and grammar errors.

But BOINC does not.
What? You're accessing this forum through a browser. Tell that browser to check spelling.
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Message 108277 - Posted: 2 Apr 2023, 10:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 108272.  

The server status says zero ready to send.

Obviously something is happening.


Maybe they are working to implement new app (tested on Ralph)
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Message 108278 - Posted: 2 Apr 2023, 10:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 108277.  

The server status says zero ready to send.

Obviously something is happening.
Maybe they are working to implement new app (tested on Ralph)
I did 20 of those, they all failed in 15 seconds. Those are far from being useful.
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Message 108510 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 11:24:03 UTC

Rosetta Units resetting to 0 progress.

When I close BOINC with Rosetta work units in progress then on restarting all the Rosetta units are reset to 0 progress and all the previous work is repeated from the start.
This seems a complete waste of computer time and electricity.
Not sure when it started but I have noticed it for about a week now.
This is not related to checkpointing since other projects are not affected and even if the Rosetta unit is 80 -90% complete it still goes back to zero.
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Message 108511 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 17:10:36 UTC - in response to Message 108510.  

Rosetta Units resetting to 0 progress.

When I close BOINC with Rosetta work units in progress then on restarting all the Rosetta units are reset to 0 progress and all the previous work is repeated from the start.
This seems a complete waste of computer time and electricity.
Not sure when it started but I have noticed it for about a week now.
This is not related to checkpointing since other projects are not affected and even if the Rosetta unit is 80 -90% complete it still goes back to zero.


It is related to checkpointing, the current set of tasks is not completing a decoy and is not checkpointing therefore they run over the agreed time limit and restart from zero after interruption.

The tasks appear to be getting into an internal loop and not making progress. The processing time goes up and, after the task gets close to the agreed deadline, the progress % and the time to completion do not come down.

All that can be done is to abort them or leave them running until the watchdog aborts them for you.
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Message 108513 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 21:52:52 UTC

The answer is simple, don't close Boinc. And set it to leave apps in memory when suspended.
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Message 108521 - Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 7:23:13 UTC - in response to Message 108513.  

The answer is simple, don't close Boinc. And set it to leave apps in memory when suspended.


And the jobs still fail
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Message 108522 - Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 7:28:21 UTC - in response to Message 108521.  

What does graphics app show?
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Message 108524 - Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 8:17:30 UTC - in response to Message 108522.  

What does graphics app show?

A graphic and a ms-dos window with some text
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Message 108525 - Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 8:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 108510.  

When I close BOINC with Rosetta work units in progress then on restarting all the Rosetta units are reset to 0 progress and all the previous work is repeated from the start.
This seems a complete waste of computer time and electricity.
Not sure when it started but I have noticed it for about a week now.


No tests on Ralph and this is the results
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Message 108530 - Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 22:43:08 UTC - in response to Message 108525.  
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I'm getting black screens with messages saying BOINC can't find what executable is needed to run under Windows.

I'm using the latest version of 64-bit Windows 10.

Also no progress seen and no testing seen under Ralph@Home.
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Message 108531 - Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 23:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 108530.  

Try to reset project.
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Message 108532 - Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 1:22:52 UTC
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Several Rosetta Beta v6.03 windows_x86_64 tasks lately.

Most gave error while computing, one gave Valid, two are still In progress.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=1365343858was valid, one starting structure, 653 decoys.

The two still in progress gave error while computing for the previous runs by other users, one using Linux and one using Windows.
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Message 108535 - Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 19:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 108532.  

Several Rosetta Beta v6.03 windows_x86_64 tasks lately.

Most gave error while computing, one gave Valid, two are still In progress.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=1365343858was valid, one starting structure, 653 decoys.

The two still in progress gave error while computing for the previous runs by other users, one using Linux and one using Windows.


I'm getting 20% success rate on Beta at the moment, errors always match the other validator whatever OS and CPU they are using. Its all for the common good, I presume the beta team are monitoring the errors.
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Message 108536 - Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 19:43:11 UTC - in response to Message 108535.  

If only there was a way to disable beta.
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Message 108537 - Posted: 28 Aug 2023, 7:04:21 UTC - in response to Message 108535.  

Its all for the common good, I presume the beta team are monitoring the errors.

I'm not so optimistic
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Message 108544 - Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 23:42:28 UTC - in response to Message 108536.  

If only there was a way to disable beta.
Are you the one that makes graphs of task availability? Are they available for all projects? I was looking for Denis.
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Message 108549 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 13:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 108544.  

If only there was a way to disable beta.
Are you the one that makes graphs of task availability? Are they available for all projects? I was looking for Denis.
Nevermind, found it:
https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc
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