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Message 108251 - Posted: 30 Mar 2023, 14:21:59 UTC - in response to Message 108249.  

Scientists are also biassed. By the gun pointed at them by the US government.

A lot of italian scientists are agree with climate change fact.
Maybe italian governament are with gun pointed at them.

Every scientist, in the world, are threatened by their governaments!!

It's a big cospirancy!!!
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Message 108252 - Posted: 30 Mar 2023, 14:29:23 UTC - in response to Message 108235.  

I made a terrible typo.
Wouldn't be the first time.

What I meant was I would NEVER deny that evolution was accepted science. I'm an anthropologist ferchrissake. I used to teach this stuff.

I am certainly no reliigous nut. I have no religion at all.
Climate change is a religion. It requires belief in something without evidence.

No, they won't. By the time the climate changes again, they will be extinct or in such low numbers as not to have a suficient gene pool for a viable population.
We have many things in our bodies left over from a very very long time ago. Stuff we evolve tends to hang around unless it causes a problem. Like storing absurd amounts of fat.

What is now England was once a part of Europe. Sea level then was 300 feet lower than it is today (The Florida coastline then extended 80 miles further out into the Gulf of Mexico.) England used to be connected to Europe, butwater built up by glacial ice melt caused a flood that washed away the land bridge that connected England to Europe and resulted in the English Channel. England was inhabited 40,000 years ago That's why Neanderthal remains have been found in England.
Indeed. The sea actually rose without man made "climate change", funny that.

That is not what you said. What you said was there was nothing complicated about evolution. But the reality of it is much more nuanced. You don't believe in nuance.
I believe in getting to the point.

In evolutionary terms, it doesn't matter whether you survive the virus or not if your genes are not passed to the next generation.
Dead people aren't usually in the habit of passing on their genes. The next generation will consist of zero people susceptible to covid.

And the virus probably does not die out. It mutates to different strains, as was observed in the past several years.
Like the common cold. But those immune to one are less susceptible to another.

The fact that you so far have not contracted the virus could just be a matte of luck or non-exposure. You may get it yet.
It's a very low chance.

Contrary to your belief, the vaccines are proven to be effective.
Look at the stats of people being admitted to hospital with serious covid, and how many were vaccinated.

Look at how many times they keep boosting people because the earlier ones failed.

True, some people got the vaccine and got COVID anyway. But it is proven that those who get the virus after being vaccinated are less likely to require hospitalization, are much less sick and recover faster.
I know people who got it worse the second time, even though the strain was milder. The difference? They'd been vaccinated.

Look at the stats from the USA in 2020. Most of those who died were Trump-following Republicans.
That proves nothing. They might just be less fit.

By technology, I mean the ability to make stone tools with which to hunt prey and make clothing from their skins to protect us from cold, the ability to make fire, build homes, grow crops. Those are technologies enabled by culture that have allowed humans to inhabit every place on earth, even to survive the arctic at the end of the ice age.
And allow the weak to survive. Lets heat the caves so the sissies who can't stand the cold live on. Oops, out of firewood.
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Message 108253 - Posted: 30 Mar 2023, 14:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 108250.  

Bad analogy. You cannot tell what the frame of reference is. But you can tell what the weather is like.

The analogy is perfect. You use your senses and your intuition.
And it's WRONG.
My senses tell me the weather is the same. My senses cannot tell me what's going round what. Without astronomy, I would have said "we don't know".

(And you don't understand the difference between weather and clime).
Ah that old excuse. Climate is just long term weather. We can't even predict tomorrow's weather, nevermind the next decade.

It shows you have a 50% chance of being wrong.
It shows you have no idea of what science is
It shows I can do basic stats, which you just failed miserably at.
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Message 108254 - Posted: 30 Mar 2023, 14:35:29 UTC - in response to Message 108251.  

Scientists are also biassed. By the gun pointed at them by the US government.
A lot of italian scientists are agree with climate change fact.
Maybe italian governament are with gun pointed at them.
More likely the mafia in your case.

Every scientist, in the world, are threatened by their governaments!!

It's a big cospirancy!!!
You actually think a government does anything for the good of the population? A few scientists predicted climate change, the government spent billions on carbon credit bullshit to make treehuggers vote for them, then some scientists said oops we're wrong, but the government had already spent all that money, so those scientists got ridiculed or shot.
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Message 108255 - Posted: 30 Mar 2023, 20:21:35 UTC - in response to Message 108254.  

Maybe italian governament are with gun pointed at them.

More likely the mafia in your case.


I stop here.
I don't want to loose my time with you.

This is a forum about Rosetta@Home and not about your personal strange and wrong beliefs
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Message 108256 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 3:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 108255.  

Maybe italian governament are with gun pointed at them.

More likely the mafia in your case.


I stop here.
I don't want to loose my time with you.

This is a forum about Rosetta@Home and not about your personal strange and wrong beliefs
I understand, you cannot say anything bad about your fuhrer in public.
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Message 108258 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 8:35:29 UTC

More likely the mafia in your case.


I understand, you cannot say anything bad about your fuhrer in public.


I request to forum admin/moderator, to BAN PERMANENTLY this user from R@H forums.
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Message 108260 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:02:09 UTC - in response to Message 108258.  

More likely the mafia in your case.


I understand, you cannot say anything bad about your fuhrer in public.


I request to forum admin/moderator, to BAN PERMANENTLY this user from R@H forums.
Oh stop being such a pathetic girl's blouse.
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Message 108261 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:07:33 UTC - in response to Message 108252.  
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I made a terrible typo.
Wouldn't be the first time.

I am not a good typist. I type pretty fast, but make a lot of mistakes.

What I meant was I would NEVER deny that evolution was accepted science. I'm an anthropologist ferchrissake. I used to teach this stuff.

I am certainly no reliigous nut. I have no religion at all.
Climate change is a religion. It requires belief in something without evidence.[/quote]

There is plenty of evidence for climate change. You just don't recognize it because you look out your window and don't see any change. It's a global phenomenon, not something seen out your window.

No, they won't. By the time the climate changes again, they will be extinct or in such low numbers as not to have a sufficient gene pool for a viable population.
We have many things in our bodies left over from a very very long time ago. Stuff we evolve tends to hang around unless it causes a problem. Like storing absurd amounts of fat.

What is now England was once a part of Europe. Sea level then was 300 feet lower than it is today (The Florida coastline then extended 80 miles further out into the Gulf of Mexico.) England used to be connected to Europe, but water built up by glacial ice melt caused a flood that washed away the land bridge that connected England to Europe and resulted in the English Channel. England was inhabited 40,000 years ago That's why Neanderthal remains have been found in England.
Indeed. The sea actually rose without man made "climate change", funny that. [/quote]

But it didn't happen in 100 years.

That is not what you said. What you said was there was nothing complicated about evolution. But the reality of it is much more nuanced. You don't believe in nuance.
I believe in getting to the point.[/quote]

You believe in getting to the point. But in rushing headlong to your point, you miss lots of critical details

In evolutionary terms, it doesn't matter whether you survive the virus or not if your genes are not passed to the next generation.
Dead people aren't usually in the habit of passing on their genes. [/quote]

EXACTLY! They died before passing on their genes. Therefore, they were less fit.
Vaccines made those who got it more fit.

[/quote]The next generation will consist of zero people susceptible to covid.[/quote]

NOPE. THE VIRUS WILL JUST MUTATE AGAIN, MANY TIMES. THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED.

And the virus probably does not die out. It mutates to different strains, as was observed in the past several years.
[/quote]Like the common cold. But those immune to one are less susceptible to another.

Not necessarily.

Where do you get your information? Sample size of one? British tabloids?? Rupert Murdoch?

The fact that you so far have not contracted the virus could just be a matter of luck or non-exposure. You may get it yet.
It's a very low chance.[/quote]

A higher chance than if you'd been vaccinated.

Contrary to your belief, the vaccines are proven to be effective.
Look at the stats of people being admitted to hospital with serious covid, and how many were vaccinated.


Look at how many times they keep boosting people because the earlier ones failed. [/quote]

No, they keep boosting people because new strains of the virus emerge. One of those little details you ignore. You even get periodic booster shots with smallpox vaccinations, Polio shots, tetanus shots, shingles shots, flu shots, pneumonia shots, etc. Have you any idea how many lives have been saved by these? No, you don't. That's another detail you ignore.

As I said at the start of this convesation, I believe in reducung human suffering. But yoiu just chalk that up to coddling sissies.

True, some people got the vaccine and got COVID anyway. But it is proven that those who get the virus after being vaccinated are less likely to require hospitalization, are much less sick and recover faster.
I know people who got it worse the second time, even though the strain was milder. The difference? They'd been vaccinated.

Look at the stats from the USA in 2020. Most of those who died were Trump-following Republicans.
That proves nothing. They might just be less fit. [/quote]

Some of them were old. But most of them believed Trump's bullshit and flatly refused to be vaccinated. About a million of them died.

By technology, I mean the ability to make stone tools with which to hunt prey and make clothing from their skins to protect us from cold, the ability to make fire, build homes, grow crops. Those are technologies enabled by culture that have allowed humans to inhabit every place on earth, even to survive the arctic at the end of the ice age.


[/quote]And allow the weak to survive. Lets heat the caves so the sissies who can't stand the cold live on.[/quote]

I guess you never lived in the arctic during the ice age. Without fire, humans probably would not have lived through the Ice Age. Fire not only saved lives, it allowed a wider variety of foods to be eaten and helped preserve it. That's how technology allows us to expand out into the wider world.

You keep harping on those sissies. I wonder why? Maybe you are part Neanderthal. I don't think they had fire.
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Message 108262 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:17:48 UTC

Back to the topic- looks like the servers are having issues again.

From 500,000 results per day being returned, it looks like it's dropped back to the 5,000 or so like last time. Even with the lack of new work, the return rate shouldn't have dropped off as much it has at this point in time.
Around 2300hrs Thursday some new work was sent out, and at the same time the return rate plummeted- even if the new Tasks are much longer running, all the existing ones should still continue to be returned at their much higher rate till their number are much, much lower than they are.


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Message 108263 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:25:20 UTC - in response to Message 108261.  

I am not a good tyoist.
(Titter)

I type pretty fast, but make a lot of mistakes.
My browser (and I assume all will do this) underlines spelling errors in red as you type. A quick glance before you send is all that's needed. Or you could even read the whole thing back.

Climate change is a religion. It requires belief in something without evidence.
There is plenty of evidience for climate change, You just don't recognize it because you look out your window and don't see aby chabge. It's a global ophenomenon.
I've seen plenty evidence against it, I'm sure I emailed you those graphs, or that could have been someone else. And I've never seen anyone manage to provide any evidence for it. So what if the CO2 is up a bit? Plants will love that, farmers will love that, I will love cheaper food. So what if the sea level rises, I don't live next to the sea, I'm not that stupid. The sea level rose a long time ago anyway. So it goes up a bit more?

Indeed. The sea actually rose without man made "climate change", funny that.
But it didn't happen in 100 years.
Why would that matter?

You believe in getting to the point. But in rushing headlong to your point, you miss lots of critical details
You don't need details when the answer is staring you in the face. If your car beats mine in a race, you don't need to analyze the engines to make sure.

I doubt that., THE VIRUS WILL JUST MUTATE AGAIN, MANY TIMES. THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED.
Which thwarts vaccines aswell. And as I've said before, the constantly evolving common cold - we're not immune to it, but it's similar enough we can fight it off.

No, they keep boosting people because new strains of the virus emerge. One of those little details you ignore. You even get periodic booster shots with smallpox vaccination, Polio shots, teteanus shots, shingles shots, flu shots, pneumonia shots, etc.
So they're patching up a badly made vaccine, I won't bother. It's like sellotaping your car window shut. And since people still catch it with the vaccine, clearly the vaccines are one mutation behind, so utterly pointless.

And allow the weak to survive. Lets heat the caves so the sissies who can't stand the cold live on.
I guess you never lived in the arctic during the ice age. Without fire, humans probably would not have lived through the Ice Age.
We're warm blooded, we would have been fine. Or just moved south.

You keep harping on those sissies. I wonder why? Maybe you are part Neanderthal. I don't think they had fire.
And yet they survived.
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Message 108264 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 108262.  

Back to the topic- looks like the servers are having issues again.

From 500,000 results per day being returned, it looks like it's dropped back to the 5,000 or so like last time. Even with the lack of new work, the return rate shouldn't have dropped off as much it has at this point in time.
Around 2300hrs Thursday some new work was sent out, and at the same time the return rate plummeted- even if the new Tasks are much longer running, all the existing ones should still continue to be returned at their much higher rate till their number are much, much lower than they are.
Surely if there's less out in the field, less will be returned. At full pelt, they're getting them back from the good guys that run them straight away. When they stop sending stuff out, there's loads of resends to go through as people time out and 3 days later they're tried again.
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Message 108265 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 11:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 108261.  

There is plenty of evidence for climate change. You just don't recognize it because you look out your window and don't see any change. It's a global phenomenon, not something seen out your window.


Please, stop to interact with him
It's impossible to win against ignorance and rudeness.
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Message 108266 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 11:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 108265.  

There is plenty of evidence for climate change. You just don't recognize it because you look out your window and don't see any change. It's a global phenomenon, not something seen out your window.


Please, stop to interact with him
It's impossible to win against ignorance and rudeness.
They're only words. Use your own killfile.
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Message 108267 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 11:48:42 UTC - in response to Message 108260.  

Oh stop being such a pathetic girl's blouse.


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Generally speaking receipt of an email indicating that a post has been removed is an indication that the post was determined to be unacceptable for one or more of the following reasons.

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3) It contained a threat against another user or the project or quoted a post that contained such threats.
4) It was of such a personally inflammatory or insulting nature that it incited a series of rebuttals of the nature of personal attacks ("flaming").

The Rosetta user community is international, and open to people from all walks of life. For this reason communications between users in the forums is expected to be polite, and suitable for all possible audiences. Threats and profanity are unacceptable, as are language and images of an obscene nature. So called "flaming" is not acceptable.
This concept has been distilled into a simple statement displayed each time a user posts in any of the Rosetta@home forums.

"Don't use obscene language or images, and don't threaten other participants; otherwise we may delete your messages."


So, be polite, GO AWAY from this forum
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Message 108268 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 11:50:35 UTC - in response to Message 108266.  

They're only words. Use your own killfile.


It's not only my problem.
You're ruining the thread for all the people.
Go away, please.
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Message 108269 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 12:09:57 UTC - in response to Message 108267.  

Oh stop being such a pathetic girl's blouse.
From R@H forum rules:
"Don't use obscene language or images, and don't threaten other participants; otherwise we may delete your messages."
So, be polite, GO AWAY from this forum
Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
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Message 108270 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 12:10:32 UTC - in response to Message 108268.  

They're only words. Use your own killfile.
It's not only my problem.
You're ruining the thread for all the people.
Go away, please.
Anyone is free to block anyone they wish, it really isn't that hard.
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Message 108271 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 21:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 108262.  

Whatever was going on it seems to have sorted itself out- the return rate has picked up again (or it could have been a case of dribs & drabs of work being sent out instead of one large batch, making it look like the return rate had dropped. Without the actual return rate numbers, you can only go by the Work in progress numbers once new work stops being sent out).
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Message 108272 - Posted: 2 Apr 2023, 5:29:49 UTC - in response to Message 108262.  
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Back to the topic- looks like the servers are having issues again.

From 500,000 results per day being returned, it looks like it's dropped back to the 5,000 or so like last time. Even with the lack of new work, the return rate shouldn't have dropped off as much it has at this point in time.
Around 2300hrs Thursday some new work was sent out, and at the same time the return rate plummeted- even if the new Tasks are much longer running, all the existing ones should still continue to be returned at their much higher rate till their number are much, much lower than they are.



I haven't gotten a Rosetta file in a few days.

The server status says zero ready to send.

Obviously something is happening.
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