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Message 107222 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 14:21:44 UTC - in response to Message 107220.  

Also schadenfreude
Although I enjoy schadenfreuding, I would never describe it as such. Doesn't everyone watch fail videos on Youtube?
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Message 107223 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 16:36:01 UTC

"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
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Message 107224 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 16:38:39 UTC - in response to Message 107223.  

"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
I had to look up what that was. It's in November?
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Message 107225 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 16:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 107224.  
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"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
I had to look up what that was. It's in November?

Ah, Thanksgiving day is today where I live. Second Monday of October.
I'm going to assume there is no holiday today where Rosetta is based at.
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Message 107226 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 18:19:23 UTC - in response to Message 107225.  
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"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
I had to look up what that was. It's in November?

Ah, Thanksgiving day is today where I live. Second Monday of October.
I'm going to assume there is no holiday today where Rosetta is based at.
Odd, from Google it's some kind of thanks for a harvest, I thought it would be fairly fixed (Like Easter, first Sunday in the month or whatever it is).

Here we are, USA/Canada November 24: https://www.calendar-12.com/holidays/thanksgiving/2022

It's celebrated in other countries?

Hang on, aren't you Canadian?
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Message 107227 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 18:19:49 UTC - in response to Message 107217.  

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.
I don't speak Spanish apart from conio, pinga, soldado, comminierda, and fascista. And American isn't a language.
Then neither are Geordie or Cockney, but they are both dialects of English -- as are the very many dialects spoken in North America.
An accent is fine, but no, cockney rhyming slang is ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is someone who claims there is only one "pure" version of a particular language -- usually the one that that person speaks. OMG, you would be lost in Canada, with all words that were lifted straight into Canadian English from one of the many indigenous languages.

BTW, if you don't like the use of "nada" in English, what's your take on things like "brehmsstrahlung" or "apropos"?
Brehmsstrahlung is scientific. Science uses words from many languages and must be precise. Apropos I would never use, sounds like something a lawyer would say. They're stuck on Latin.

So what was wrong with calling it "braking radiation", which is the precise English translation of brehmsstrahlung? And apropos is hardly Latin, it is French.
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Message 107228 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 18:29:21 UTC - in response to Message 107227.  

What is ridiculous is someone who claims there is only one "pure" version of a particular language -- usually the one that that person speaks. OMG, you would be lost in Canada, with all words that were lifted straight into Canadian English from one of the many indigenous languages.
Actually my grandfather grew up in a cockney area (but didn't speak like that). If I spoke like that I wouldn't have called my version the correct English. My mother's side is all Yorkshire, and I can speak with a Yorkshire accent but don't. I find it amusing. "Put wood in 'ole there's a draft!" (Would you mind closing the door, there's a terrible chill coming across the room) or a prefix to that, "wast tha born in barn lad?" (self explanatory). Or Glaswegian.... "See you? Gonnae nae dae that? Yer scratchin the paintwork on ma car! If ya do that agayn I'll phone the poliss and y'll be lifted! This is a respectable area!" (Usually in an area which isn't respectable and the car in question is a 30 year old Lada Riva). https://quickmarket.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/4-19.jpg Jesus that one is 24 years old and on sale for a grand and a half! I was expecting 100.

So what was wrong with calling it "braking radiation", which is the precise English translation of brehmsstrahlung?
I most likely would if I worked in that field. A German word that long is not easy to fit in a sentence without getting your tongue in a twist.

And apropos is hardly Latin, it is French.
It sounds Latin, and I've never heard it used in the UK. Just goes to show I don't use that kind of thing.
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Message 107230 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 23:39:33 UTC

So is there going to be any response from Admin regarding the 1.7 million results and climbing locked in pending?
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Message 107231 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 1:03:33 UTC - in response to Message 107230.  
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There is no admin in here, we've only seen a scientist.

I'm sure without validation, the science results aren't available, so someone will kick it soon.
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Message 107232 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 1:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 107231.  

I'll see about talking our Rosetta@Home team tomorrow. Sorry for the delay on this.
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Message 107233 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 2:35:42 UTC - in response to Message 107232.  

Good news, as I'm tired of reading posts from this Pompous Arse and his perfect English!
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Message 107234 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 4:18:34 UTC - in response to Message 107214.  
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@Peter the Huckster

If I bought a Ferrari, I sure wouldn't be running around telling everyone that I bought "a car", but what has that got to do with any of this? Nada.

As for the rest of your AHD-driven post, by all means continue to perpetuate the errors that "people" make. I really don't care anymore, but on a technical board you could at least demonstrate that you know a bit more than the average computer user.
Wow, you actually admit you would say "Ferrari" and not "car", yet you would call you NVME an "SSD"? You really haven't grasped this simple concept at all. And BTW nada isn't a word in English. Maybe you meant nothing.


Was that all addressed to me?

I have always admitted that I know little more than the average computer user.
That's why I ask you guys for advice.
If you didn't care anymore, why did you bother with the above response?

I fail to grasp the relevance of your references to Ferraris and cars. Another example of my obtuseness?

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.

S. Gaber


Ah. Now I realize your tirade was directed to another BOINCer you consider beneath your erudite stature. Sorry.

As for your critique on American English, it's obvious that you do not understand how languages work. They evolve. Isolation causes change. How do you think the English language came to be? It incorporates words, phrases and idioms from many other languages. Latin, Greek, French, German, Spanish. That's what makes it universal.

Despite your ethnocentric comment that American English is English spoken badly, the fact is that your English, my English and that of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and about half of the rest of the world are mutually comprehensible. Each has its own pronunciation and colloquialisms, but it is basically the same language.

It changes all the time, regardless of whether you like it or not.

You may look down on American English, but would you also disparage the English spoken by Australians, South Africans, residents of Caribbean countries, all of who claim English to be their native tongue, each spoken uniquely?

I admit that my knowledge of computers and the intricacies of BOINC are sorely lacking. But I assure you that I can speak and write in English at least as proficiently as you can., although peppered with occasional Americanisms. And I have never sued anybody.

You said you were part Swedish. I was in Sweden. Almost everybody there spoke English. This is also true in the rest of Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, the Baltic states, etc. It is primarily people like you and the French who are so snobby about their language. How quaint!

I have a British friend who always brags about British English being the "mother tongue." But he cannot spell his mother tongue better than a fourth-grade student..

BTW, all my BOINC projects, including Rosetta, are running fine now, except for the long list of Rosetta tasks waiting for validation.

S. Gaber



As is typical of some Brits. It's "Queens" English or nothing.
Well sorry to say, there are many flavors of English and as an American with international friends and living in Belgium, English here in the EU is a mix of all flavors. American, Bad East Block, French version and even German version. Then we can get into those less educated that learned it from comparing English shows (US and UK) with subtitles to compare to the English. So there is no "true" single correct version of English. Also UK English uses many different terms than other flavors of English and the same for US English. Typically the English I get around Belgium is a blend of both, but typically favoring US because of TV influence and social media. There is no "pure" English anymore except for text books of each country.


Quite true.

Even the Scottish phrases The Huckster disparages were not from the language of their ancestors nor of the pre-Saxon residents of Britain.

Modern media -- TV and radio-- have homogenized the English language beyond what people 300 years ago would recognize.

Taylor Island and Smith Island, in the middle of Chesapeake Bay within the state of Maryland were settled by British people around 1608. They spoke the Elizabethan English of their period. Being isolated islands with little connection to the mainland, these farmers and fishermen had no access to TV until the 1960s. As a result of their isolation, the 20th century residents of those islands spoke the closest thing to Elizabethan English found anywhere in the world. There are recordings of them speaking so you can hear when it sounded like.

But, now, access to TV and radio has caused that form of the language to disappear. People speaking today sound pretty much like other American living in Maryland and Virginia, although their way of life is disappearing. .Also, the islands themselves are disappearing, eroding away due to sea level rise. The would survive another 50 years.

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Message 107235 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 4:34:31 UTC - in response to Message 107233.  

Good news, as I'm tired of reading posts from this Pompous Arse and his perfect English!
At least you spelt arse correctly. I'm tired of Americans confusing buttocks with donkeys.
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Message 107236 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 4:40:16 UTC - in response to Message 107234.  

Even the Scottish phrases The Huckster disparages were not from the language of their ancestors nor of the pre-Saxon residents of Britain.
Neither do you speak like the amoebas you evolved from, what's your point?

Modern media -- TV and radio-- have homogenized the English language beyond what people 300 years ago would recognize.
I guess that's why I keep saying I guess.

Taylor Island and Smith Island, in the middle of Chesapeake Bay within the state of Maryland were settled by British people around 1608. They spoke the Elizabethan English of their period. Being isolated islands with little connection to the mainland, these farmers and fishermen had no access to TV until the 1960s. As a result of their isolation, the 20th century residents of those islands spoke the closest thing to Elizabethan English found anywhere in the world. There are recordings of them speaking so you can hear when it sounded like.
I cannot locate these recordings, do you have a link?
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Message 107238 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 9:24:17 UTC - in response to Message 107219.  

As for your critique on American English, it's obvious that you do not understand how languages work. They evolve. Isolation causes change. How do you think the English language came to be? It incorporates words, phrases and idioms from many other languages. Latin, Greek, French, German, Spanish. That's what makes it universal.
America just failed to evolve. <<-- says who? You?

Despite your ethnocentric comment that American English is English spoken badly, the fact is that your English, my English and that of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and about half of the rest of the world are mutually comprehensible. Each has its own pronunciation and colloquialisms, but it is basically the same language.
Comprehensible but annoying. And when you start making words up like sidewalk, somebody has to use google. <--- Well take Dutch then literally translated foot path, but then to use some stuff from UK English...boot? really? That's what you put on your feet. Fortnight? Two weeks is more clear. And I have to say some of the UK dialects really take some concentration to figure out what they are saying.

It changes all the time, regardless of whether you like it or not.
It changes too slowly. There are a lot of things in English that should be simplified. Remove the word fewer for example, or at least be consistant and also have severaler. And why do Americans say gotten instead of got? <<---Its a US thing. Pretty sure there are some things in UK English that are equally strange.

You may look down on American English,
Mainly I look down on Americans, they're world famous for being a bit thick. And I cannot stand to watch a video on Youtube explaining how to fix something when instead of saying "tighten the screw" he says "now what you're gonna wanna do next is tighten the screw". Do they just like the sound of their own voice? It's a part of our language style? Why do you guys always say Thank You, Thank you very much all the time? Just stick with one thank you or just one thank you very much. How about all the 'Bye' you say before hanging up?

but would you also disparage the English spoken by Australians, South Africans, residents of Caribbean countries, all of who claim English to be their native tongue, each spoken uniquely?
No, because they're nowhere near as ridiculous.

I admit that my knowledge of computers and the intricacies of BOINC are sorely lacking. But I assure you that I can speak and write in English at least as proficiently as you can., although peppered with occasional Americanisms.

And I have never sued anybody.
Then you're not a real American. Do you do that swear allegiance to god and the united states crap? <<-- You swear allegiance to the flag, not to the president, not to the king. We use 'In God we Trust' on the money, not any monarch or president. When being sworn in court, it is 'So help me God' You have to answer to God on these matters. God Bless the United States when used by a politician is the most stupid thing they could say. It's a catch phrase. They don't mean it. It sounds good.

You said you were part Swedish. I was in Sweden. Almost everybody there spoke English.
Indeed, m'colleague was an English teacher in Sweden. Maybe you met all his pupils! Just goes to show the whole world is converging on one language.

This is also true in the rest of Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, the Baltic states, etc. It is primarily people like you and the French who are so snobby about their language. How quaint!
You can't call French a language when they say things like "le weekend" and "le fast food". <<-- Because English is invading their language by the younger generation. Same here in Belgium and Netherlands, heavy English influence in the language. But the base language still exists and is used.

I have a British friend who always brags about British English being the "mother tongue." But he cannot spell his mother tongue better than a fourth-grade student..
He is correct though, we had it first. Your lot are descended from people who ran away to steal land from American Indians. https://youtu.be/p4zR9r9olOg
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Message 107239 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 9:26:02 UTC - in response to Message 107235.  

Good news, as I'm tired of reading posts from this Pompous Arse and his perfect English!
At least you spelt arse correctly. I'm tired of Americans confusing buttocks with donkeys.



LMAO, an ass vs an ass. But both have a hole. Or right and right and write?
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Message 107240 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 17:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 107226.  

"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
I had to look up what that was. It's in November?

Ah, Thanksgiving day is today where I live. Second Monday of October.
I'm going to assume there is no holiday today where Rosetta is based at.
Odd, from Google it's some kind of thanks for a harvest, I thought it would be fairly fixed (Like Easter, first Sunday in the month or whatever it is).

Here we are, USA/Canada November 24: https://www.calendar-12.com/holidays/thanksgiving/2022

It's celebrated in other countries?

Hang on, aren't you Canadian?


Yes, I'm in Ontario, Canada. Thanksgiving is the second Monday every October here.
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Message 107241 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 18:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 107238.  

<<-- says who? You?

Says the entire internet. Just look up IQs, youtube videos of idiots, etc.

<--- Well take Dutch then literally translated foot path,

Better than sidewalk, but not distinguishable from one nowhere near a road.

but then to use some stuff from UK English...boot? really? That's what you put on your feet.

Trunk? Really? Elephants use those.

Fortnight? Two weeks is more clear. And I have to say some of the UK dialects really take some concentration to figure out what they are saying.

Thanks for confirming you can't count to fourteen in the USA.

<<---Its a US thing. Pretty sure there are some things in UK English that are equally strange.

Americans don't actually know. Some say gotten is *instead* of got, and some say it's past historic or something, and they use got and gotten in different contexts.

It's a part of our language style?

To triple the words needed? I was trying to open a laptop! I don't want waffle!

Why do you guys always say Thank You, Thank you very much all the time? Just stick with one thank you or just one thank you very much. How about all the 'Bye' you say before hanging up?

I say "thanks". I say "bye". Never heard longer versions like you mention, unless perhaps someone had just been given a million pounds.

<<-- You swear allegiance to the flag, not to the president, not to the king.

Allegiance to a piece of cloth, it gets better and better.

We use 'In God we Trust' on the money, not any monarch or president.

I prefer real beings that actually exist. This is another reason the world looks down on America, the high percentage of deeply religious nuts. Most christian countries are giving up on religion, it's just the extremists like muslims that continue to take it seriously.

When being sworn in court, it is 'So help me God' You have to answer to God on these matters.

Courts are way behind in everything, it wasn't long ago they stopped using Latin. I wonder what would happen if you refused to swear on the bible in court on the grounds you're an atheist? I wouldn't like to try it. Maybe if I'm nothing to do with a case and just a witness who doesn't mind pissing off the judge.

God Bless the United States when used by a politician is the most stupid thing they could say. It's a catch phrase. They don't mean it. It sounds good.

We don't say "god bless". We sometimes say "for god's sake" without meaning it, since the only other alternative is "for fuck's sake".

<<-- Because English is invading their language by the younger generation. Same here in Belgium and Netherlands, heavy English influence in the language. But the base language still exists and is used.

I can understand that but not why they don't just use the existing French words for fast and food so vite aliments. ARGH! I tried to get that from my Google Home, and it spoke with an American accent in French! Couldn't understand a word! It normally talks to me with an English accent.
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Message 107242 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 18:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 107239.  

LMAO,
You laughed your donkey off?

an ass vs an ass. But both have a hole.
One has more holes.

But what's funnier is you refer to entire people as ass - even when not being rude. For example "get your ass over here". What about the rest of them? Yes ok, Americans are mainly ass because they eat so much.

Or right and right and write?
That is silly, but at least we differentiate an animal from a body part.
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Message 107243 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 18:22:18 UTC - in response to Message 107240.  
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Here we are, USA/Canada November 24: https://www.calendar-12.com/holidays/thanksgiving/2022

It's celebrated in other countries?

Hang on, aren't you Canadian?
Yes, I'm in Ontario, Canada. Thanksgiving is the second Monday every October here.
Oops I missed a part of that page saying you're earlier, should have asked my Google Home, it got it right. So you have an earlier harvest despite being further North? Maybe the yanks ate the first one and had to start again.

Your name is in English and Chinese, do you consider yourself Canadian?
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