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Message 107207 - Posted: 9 Oct 2022, 23:39:30 UTC - in response to Message 107198.  
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I have created an issue for my cpu time problem.
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/4957

You have one computer that runs Microsoft Windows 11
Enterprise x64 Edition, (10.00.22621.00)
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6219929
I stole that. I bought a used NVME from a laptop that had it on it. They must get updates first.

That machine is reporting the correct CPU% in Boinc and task manager. I don't see the problem here. But others have, as I found on a google search.
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Message 107208 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 0:15:39 UTC - in response to Message 107193.  

@Peter the Huckster

If I bought a Ferrari, I sure wouldn't be running around telling everyone that I bought "a car", but what has that got to do with any of this? Nada.

As for the rest of your AHD-driven post, by all means continue to perpetuate the errors that "people" make. I really don't care anymore, but on a technical board you could at least demonstrate that you know a bit more than the average computer user.
Wow, you actually admit you would say "Ferrari" and not "car", yet you would call you NVME an "SSD"? You really haven't grasped this simple concept at all. And BTW nada isn't a word in English. Maybe you meant nothing.


Was that all addressed to me?

I have always admitted that I know little more than the average computer user.
That's why I ask you guys for advice.
If you didn't care anymore, why did you bother with the above response?

I fail to grasp the relevance of your references to Ferraris and cars. Another example of my obtuseness?

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.

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Message 107209 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 0:30:01 UTC - in response to Message 107208.  
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@Peter the Huckster

If I bought a Ferrari, I sure wouldn't be running around telling everyone that I bought "a car", but what has that got to do with any of this? Nada.

As for the rest of your AHD-driven post, by all means continue to perpetuate the errors that "people" make. I really don't care anymore, but on a technical board you could at least demonstrate that you know a bit more than the average computer user.
Wow, you actually admit you would say "Ferrari" and not "car", yet you would call you NVME an "SSD"? You really haven't grasped this simple concept at all. And BTW nada isn't a word in English. Maybe you meant nothing.


Was that all addressed to me?
No, since I was replying to hadron, do keep up at the back.

I have always admitted that I know little more than the average computer user.
That's why I ask you guys for advice.
If you didn't care anymore, why did you bother with the above response?

I fail to grasp the relevance of your references to Ferraris and cars. Another example of my obtuseness?
It's quite simple. An NVME is better than an SSD, although it is a type of SSD. Just like a Ferrari is a type of car.

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.
I don't speak Spanish apart from conio, pinga, soldado, comminierda, and fascista. And American isn't a language.
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Message 107210 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 2:20:12 UTC - in response to Message 107209.  

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.
I don't speak Spanish apart from conio, pinga, soldado, comminierda, and fascista. And American isn't a language.


Then neither are Geordie or Cockney, but they are both dialects of English -- as are the very many dialects spoken in North America.

BTW, if you don't like the use of "nada" in English, what's your take on things like "brehmsstrahlung" or "apropos"?
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Message 107211 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 3:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 107208.  
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@Peter the Huckster

If I bought a Ferrari, I sure wouldn't be running around telling everyone that I bought "a car", but what has that got to do with any of this? Nada.

As for the rest of your AHD-driven post, by all means continue to perpetuate the errors that "people" make. I really don't care anymore, but on a technical board you could at least demonstrate that you know a bit more than the average computer user.
Wow, you actually admit you would say "Ferrari" and not "car", yet you would call you NVME an "SSD"? You really haven't grasped this simple concept at all. And BTW nada isn't a word in English. Maybe you meant nothing.


Was that all addressed to me?

I have always admitted that I know little more than the average computer user.
That's why I ask you guys for advice.
If you didn't care anymore, why did you bother with the above response?

I fail to grasp the relevance of your references to Ferraris and cars. Another example of my obtuseness?

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.

S. Gaber


Ah. Now I realize your tirade was directed to another BOINCer you consider beneath your erudite stature. Sorry.

As for your critique on American English, it's obvious that you do not understand how languages work. They evolve. Isolation causes change. How do you think the English language came to be? It incorporates words, phrases and idioms from many other languages. Latin, Greek, French, German, Spanish. That's what makes it universal.

Despite your ethnocentric comment that American English is English spoken badly, the fact is that your English, my English and that of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and about half of the rest of the world are mutually comprehensible. Each has its own pronunciation and colloquialisms, but it is basically the same language.

It changes all the time, regardless of whether you like it or not.

You may look down on American English, but would you also disparage the English spoken by Australians, South Africans, residents of Caribbean countries, all of who claim English to be their native tongue, each spoken uniquely?

I admit that my knowledge of computers and the intricacies of BOINC are sorely lacking. But I assure you that I can speak and write in English at least as proficiently as you can., although peppered with occasional Americanisms. And I have never sued anybody.

You said you were part Swedish. I was in Sweden. Almost everybody there spoke English. This is also true in the rest of Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, the Baltic states, etc. It is primarily people like you and the French who are so snobby about their language. How quaint!

I have a British friend who always brags about British English being the "mother tongue." But he cannot spell his mother tongue better than a fourth-grade student..

BTW, all my BOINC projects, including Rosetta, are running fine now, except for the long list of Rosetta tasks waiting for validation.

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Message 107214 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 10:12:02 UTC - in response to Message 107211.  

@Peter the Huckster

If I bought a Ferrari, I sure wouldn't be running around telling everyone that I bought "a car", but what has that got to do with any of this? Nada.

As for the rest of your AHD-driven post, by all means continue to perpetuate the errors that "people" make. I really don't care anymore, but on a technical board you could at least demonstrate that you know a bit more than the average computer user.
Wow, you actually admit you would say "Ferrari" and not "car", yet you would call you NVME an "SSD"? You really haven't grasped this simple concept at all. And BTW nada isn't a word in English. Maybe you meant nothing.


Was that all addressed to me?

I have always admitted that I know little more than the average computer user.
That's why I ask you guys for advice.
If you didn't care anymore, why did you bother with the above response?

I fail to grasp the relevance of your references to Ferraris and cars. Another example of my obtuseness?

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.

S. Gaber


Ah. Now I realize your tirade was directed to another BOINCer you consider beneath your erudite stature. Sorry.

As for your critique on American English, it's obvious that you do not understand how languages work. They evolve. Isolation causes change. How do you think the English language came to be? It incorporates words, phrases and idioms from many other languages. Latin, Greek, French, German, Spanish. That's what makes it universal.

Despite your ethnocentric comment that American English is English spoken badly, the fact is that your English, my English and that of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and about half of the rest of the world are mutually comprehensible. Each has its own pronunciation and colloquialisms, but it is basically the same language.

It changes all the time, regardless of whether you like it or not.

You may look down on American English, but would you also disparage the English spoken by Australians, South Africans, residents of Caribbean countries, all of who claim English to be their native tongue, each spoken uniquely?

I admit that my knowledge of computers and the intricacies of BOINC are sorely lacking. But I assure you that I can speak and write in English at least as proficiently as you can., although peppered with occasional Americanisms. And I have never sued anybody.

You said you were part Swedish. I was in Sweden. Almost everybody there spoke English. This is also true in the rest of Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, the Baltic states, etc. It is primarily people like you and the French who are so snobby about their language. How quaint!

I have a British friend who always brags about British English being the "mother tongue." But he cannot spell his mother tongue better than a fourth-grade student..

BTW, all my BOINC projects, including Rosetta, are running fine now, except for the long list of Rosetta tasks waiting for validation.

S. Gaber



As is typical of some Brits. It's "Queens" English or nothing.
Well sorry to say, there are many flavors of English and as an American with international friends and living in Belgium, English here in the EU is a mix of all flavors. American, Bad East Block, French version and even German version. Then we can get into those less educated that learned it from comparing English shows (US and UK) with subtitles to compare to the English. So there is no "true" single correct version of English. Also UK English uses many different terms than other flavors of English and the same for US English. Typically the English I get around Belgium is a blend of both, but typically favoring US because of TV influence and social media. There is no "pure" English anymore except for text books of each country.
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Message 107215 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 10:14:26 UTC

On the validation front. I have 1 valid and 69 pending and more to add to that queue.
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Message 107217 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 14:05:36 UTC - in response to Message 107210.  

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.
I don't speak Spanish apart from conio, pinga, soldado, comminierda, and fascista. And American isn't a language.
Then neither are Geordie or Cockney, but they are both dialects of English -- as are the very many dialects spoken in North America.
An accent is fine, but no, cockney rhyming slang is ridiculous.

BTW, if you don't like the use of "nada" in English, what's your take on things like "brehmsstrahlung" or "apropos"?
Brehmsstrahlung is scientific. Science uses words from many languages and must be precise. Apropos I would never use, sounds like something a lawyer would say. They're stuck on Latin.
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Message 107219 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 14:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 107211.  

As for your critique on American English, it's obvious that you do not understand how languages work. They evolve. Isolation causes change. How do you think the English language came to be? It incorporates words, phrases and idioms from many other languages. Latin, Greek, French, German, Spanish. That's what makes it universal.
America just failed to evolve.

Despite your ethnocentric comment that American English is English spoken badly, the fact is that your English, my English and that of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and about half of the rest of the world are mutually comprehensible. Each has its own pronunciation and colloquialisms, but it is basically the same language.
Comprehensible but annoying. And when you start making words up like sidewalk, somebody has to use google.

It changes all the time, regardless of whether you like it or not.
It changes too slowly. There are a lot of things in English that should be simplified. Remove the word fewer for example, or at least be consistant and also have severaler. And why do Americans say gotten instead of got?

You may look down on American English,
Mainly I look down on Americans, they're world famous for being a bit thick. And I cannot stand to watch a video on Youtube explaining how to fix something when instead of saying "tighten the screw" he says "now what you're gonna wanna do next is tighten the screw". Do they just like the sound of their own voice?

but would you also disparage the English spoken by Australians, South Africans, residents of Caribbean countries, all of who claim English to be their native tongue, each spoken uniquely?
No, because they're nowhere near as ridiculous.

I admit that my knowledge of computers and the intricacies of BOINC are sorely lacking. But I assure you that I can speak and write in English at least as proficiently as you can., although peppered with occasional Americanisms.

And I have never sued anybody.
Then you're not a real American. Do you do that swear allegiance to god and the united states crap?

You said you were part Swedish. I was in Sweden. Almost everybody there spoke English.
Indeed, m'colleague was an English teacher in Sweden. Maybe you met all his pupils! Just goes to show the whole world is converging on one language.

This is also true in the rest of Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, the Baltic states, etc. It is primarily people like you and the French who are so snobby about their language. How quaint!
You can't call French a language when they say things like "le weekend" and "le fast food".

I have a British friend who always brags about British English being the "mother tongue." But he cannot spell his mother tongue better than a fourth-grade student..
He is correct though, we had it first. Your lot are descended from people who ran away to steal land from American Indians. https://youtu.be/p4zR9r9olOg
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Message 107220 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 14:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 107219.  

Also schadenfreude
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Message 107221 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 14:20:39 UTC - in response to Message 107214.  

As is typical of some Brits. It's "Queens" English or nothing.
You'll find the Queen said things like grind instead of ground. Very posh accents become absurd. "One fell off one's horse and broke one's leg, what a bore!"

Well sorry to say, there are many flavors
Flavours. Do you know why you omit the U? It's not what I thought.

of English and as an American with international friends and living in Belgium, English here in the EU is a mix of all flavors. American, Bad East Block, French version and even German version. Then we can get into those less educated that learned it from comparing English shows (US and UK) with subtitles to compare to the English. So there is no "true" single correct version of English.
The original is correct. Try buying an Oxford dictionary. Yes, they include slang in there now, but ignore any word listed as (colloquial) or (regional).

Also UK English uses many different terms than other flavors of English and the same for US English. Typically the English I get around Belgium is a blend of both, but typically favoring US because of TV influence and social media. There is no "pure" English anymore except for text books of each country.
Middle class people in the South of England speak true English.
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Message 107222 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 14:21:44 UTC - in response to Message 107220.  

Also schadenfreude
Although I enjoy schadenfreuding, I would never describe it as such. Doesn't everyone watch fail videos on Youtube?
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Message 107223 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 16:36:01 UTC

"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
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Message 107224 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 16:38:39 UTC - in response to Message 107223.  

"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
I had to look up what that was. It's in November?
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Message 107225 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 16:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 107224.  
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"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
I had to look up what that was. It's in November?

Ah, Thanksgiving day is today where I live. Second Monday of October.
I'm going to assume there is no holiday today where Rosetta is based at.
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Message 107226 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 18:19:23 UTC - in response to Message 107225.  
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"Workunits waiting for validation: 1607599"

I guess we'll have to wait after Thanksgiving.
I had to look up what that was. It's in November?

Ah, Thanksgiving day is today where I live. Second Monday of October.
I'm going to assume there is no holiday today where Rosetta is based at.
Odd, from Google it's some kind of thanks for a harvest, I thought it would be fairly fixed (Like Easter, first Sunday in the month or whatever it is).

Here we are, USA/Canada November 24: https://www.calendar-12.com/holidays/thanksgiving/2022

It's celebrated in other countries?

Hang on, aren't you Canadian?
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Message 107227 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 18:19:49 UTC - in response to Message 107217.  

And BTW, "nada" is a Spanish word, but in common use in the Western world. Most people understand its meaning.
I don't speak Spanish apart from conio, pinga, soldado, comminierda, and fascista. And American isn't a language.
Then neither are Geordie or Cockney, but they are both dialects of English -- as are the very many dialects spoken in North America.
An accent is fine, but no, cockney rhyming slang is ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is someone who claims there is only one "pure" version of a particular language -- usually the one that that person speaks. OMG, you would be lost in Canada, with all words that were lifted straight into Canadian English from one of the many indigenous languages.

BTW, if you don't like the use of "nada" in English, what's your take on things like "brehmsstrahlung" or "apropos"?
Brehmsstrahlung is scientific. Science uses words from many languages and must be precise. Apropos I would never use, sounds like something a lawyer would say. They're stuck on Latin.

So what was wrong with calling it "braking radiation", which is the precise English translation of brehmsstrahlung? And apropos is hardly Latin, it is French.
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Message 107228 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 18:29:21 UTC - in response to Message 107227.  

What is ridiculous is someone who claims there is only one "pure" version of a particular language -- usually the one that that person speaks. OMG, you would be lost in Canada, with all words that were lifted straight into Canadian English from one of the many indigenous languages.
Actually my grandfather grew up in a cockney area (but didn't speak like that). If I spoke like that I wouldn't have called my version the correct English. My mother's side is all Yorkshire, and I can speak with a Yorkshire accent but don't. I find it amusing. "Put wood in 'ole there's a draft!" (Would you mind closing the door, there's a terrible chill coming across the room) or a prefix to that, "wast tha born in barn lad?" (self explanatory). Or Glaswegian.... "See you? Gonnae nae dae that? Yer scratchin the paintwork on ma car! If ya do that agayn I'll phone the poliss and y'll be lifted! This is a respectable area!" (Usually in an area which isn't respectable and the car in question is a 30 year old Lada Riva). https://quickmarket.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/4-19.jpg Jesus that one is 24 years old and on sale for a grand and a half! I was expecting 100.

So what was wrong with calling it "braking radiation", which is the precise English translation of brehmsstrahlung?
I most likely would if I worked in that field. A German word that long is not easy to fit in a sentence without getting your tongue in a twist.

And apropos is hardly Latin, it is French.
It sounds Latin, and I've never heard it used in the UK. Just goes to show I don't use that kind of thing.
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Message 107230 - Posted: 10 Oct 2022, 23:39:33 UTC

So is there going to be any response from Admin regarding the 1.7 million results and climbing locked in pending?
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There is no admin in here, we've only seen a scientist.

I'm sure without validation, the science results aren't available, so someone will kick it soon.
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