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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,526,036 RAC: 10,392 |
I'm sure you're right. More trouble than it's worth to sell so better to give it away to anyone who can make use of it in whatever way.Give it to someone's kid who plays games which aren't the 3D demanding stuff. Depends what the onboard graphics are, the latest ones are probably as good, but there's bound to be someone with a basic PC who could benefit. But didn't you say it was unreliable when it started to think? If someone plays a game on it wouldn't it crash? Maybe you should try one and see before you burden someone with a buggy computer. I have quite modern motherboards whose onboard graphics are nowhere near the GTX750 or R260X. It's reliable for WCG GPU tasks, just not for folding@home. I think there's quite some difference there. I wouldn't anticipate games being anywhere near as demanding in the same way, so while I'm having issues with the GTX750 with distributed computing, I've never had a single issue with more routine demands. I missed DPD today for the new gear. Went to their pickup point, but they didn't leave it there, so I'll have to sort it out tomorrow. After that I'll consider gumtreefreecycle. I've got quite the list of discards they might take off my hands |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
I have quite modern motherboards whose onboard graphics are nowhere near the GTX750 or R260X. It's reliable for WCG GPU tasks, just not for folding@home. I think there's quite some difference there.Games use a GPU fully, just like Boinc and Folding. What new gear are you getting? I just get everything delivered to my garden shed (which has CCTV, not that anyone's ever stolen anything from it). |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,526,036 RAC: 10,392 |
Not sure that's entirely right. WCG GPU tasks were trivial here. Folding went bang (not quite, but certainly tipped me over the edge in sort order)I have quite modern motherboards whose onboard graphics are nowhere near the GTX750 or R260X. It's reliable for WCG GPU tasks, just not for folding@home. I think there's quite some difference there.Games use a GPU fully, just like Boinc and Folding. What new gear are you getting? I just get everything delivered to my garden shed (which has CCTV, not that anyone's ever stolen anything from it).I'm not getting them delivered to your shed... The box was so badly packed a small 22" monitor and GTX1650 OC graphics card came in a box over 1m squared and about a foot high, so the guy at the pickup point refused to take it in due to its size. Not sure how that works. DPD don't allow collections from their depot so they redelivered it yesterday. Assembled but not connected up just yet because the PC's still stable. I'll get to it shortly. £158 for that graphics card was pretty decent, I thought, with prices the way they are atm. £20 off due to it being open box, but all it had was a label part torn off |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,526,036 RAC: 10,392 |
Lol 05/07/2022 20:27:16 | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks. Edit: Got Rosetta tasks at the next attempt. I thought I'd be getting none of either for a minute |
Jean-David Beyer Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 196 Credit: 6,613,600 RAC: 6,755 |
Edit: Got Rosetta tasks at the next attempt. I thought I'd be getting none of either for a minute I have not got any work units in about a monrh. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
The fan speed, temperature, power consumption, % usage all go to maximum with a 3D game. Some Boinc tasks need a fair bit of CPU so the GPU might not get maxed out unless you get it to run a few at once.Games use a GPU fully, just like Boinc and Folding.Not sure that's entirely right. WCG GPU tasks were trivial here. Folding went bang (not quite, but certainly tipped me over the edge in sort order) |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
Python tasks are always available, check you haven't had your host banned (for only one failure!) If you can't do thopse, it's pot luck, I get some every other day, but I have 10 machines asking.Edit: Got Rosetta tasks at the next attempt. I thought I'd be getting none of either for a minuteI have not got any work units in about a monrh. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
05/07/2022 20:27:46 | World Community Grid | Resetting projectAh! They're progressing. My machines have now successfully attached, and the three that were already attached have retrieved my username and points history. Just no tasks yet. I keep getting this though: This project seems to have changed its URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add https://master.worldcommunitygrid.org/ When I tried that address, it didn't work at all, I got: Not found in the database Invalid ID |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,526,036 RAC: 10,392 |
05/07/2022 20:27:46 | World Community Grid | Resetting projectAh! They're progressing. My machines have now successfully attached, and the three that were already attached have retrieved my username and points history. Just no tasks yet. I've changed over 3 of 4 PCs successfully enough. The only difficulty was a work machine where our email address changed after originally joining 12yrs ago. but I worked it out in the end. I guess I'll have to do my phone as well, now I think about it. Tasks are in short supply and only for the useless OPN project that I've seen. But I wasn't expecting tasks until the end of the month, so anything is a bonus right now |
Jean-David Beyer Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 196 Credit: 6,613,600 RAC: 6,755 |
I still get this from one that managed to attach: I wonder why mine looks so different. Sun 10 Jul 2022 02:37:31 AM EDT | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Sun 10 Jul 2022 02:37:31 AM EDT | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU Sun 10 Jul 2022 02:37:32 AM EDT | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sun 10 Jul 2022 02:37:32 AM EDT | World Community Grid | This project is using an old URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add https://master.worldcommunitygrid.org/ Sun 10 Jul 2022 02:37:32 AM EDT | World Community Grid | Project has no tasks available Sun 10 Jul 2022 02:37:32 AM EDT | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
Are you saying you changed your PCs to master instead of www? That does not work for me, I just tried it again, I'm not found in the database.I keep getting this though:I've changed over 3 of 4 PCs successfully enough. The only difficulty was a work machine where our email address changed after originally joining 12yrs ago. but I worked it out in the end. I got one OPN yesterday, and 7 OPNs today, that's with 10 devices attached to it, which will check every so often when they're low on work from other projects, since WCG will have a debt on them. I've read in the WCG forum there's some technical problems. Others have reported an error of a lack of disk space on the server when returning results (odd). |
PMH_UK Send message Joined: 9 Aug 08 Posts: 16 Credit: 1,243,749 RAC: 0 |
Are you saying you changed your PCs to master instead of www? That does not work for me, I just tried it again, I'm not found in the database.I keep getting this though:I've changed over 3 of 4 PCs successfully enough. The only difficulty was a work machine where our email address changed after originally joining 12yrs ago. but I worked it out in the end. No need to change/remove/add for new URL, that is an error not resolved yet. Only a few units going out so far for MCM and OPN1 (CPU) for testing so far. Disk space message was due to a sick server, removed pending fix. See WCG forum, Recent Threads, for more. Paul. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
See WCG forum, Recent Threads, for more.I'm banned from there :-) Twice :-) Paul.Haining? |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
See WCG forum, Recent Threads, for more.I'm banned from there :-) Twice :-) Playing COPS song.... What the heck are you doing to get banned at WCG? |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
Playing COPS song....I love that song. Must download some Reggae. What the heck are you doing to get banned at WCG?You only gotta be rude to the admins a couple of times. Asking them why they're so useless for example, you know, just the truth. I've been banned from the main Boinc forum 38 times! I've been banned for as little as "the Boinc scheduler was written by an idiot, get a real programmer". Pretty stupid to have "If your account is suspended, don't create a new one" sat right there on the left, it's just asking for it.... |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,526,036 RAC: 10,392 |
Are you saying you changed your PCs to master instead of www? That does not work for me, I just tried it again, I'm not found in the database.I keep getting this though:I've changed over 3 of 4 PCs successfully enough. The only difficulty was a work machine where our email address changed after originally joining 12yrs ago. but I worked it out in the end. First I remove WCG, then re-add the project, replacing the URL offered with the "master" one and it seems to work the first time on each machine. Yes, I've seen from their forums that changing the URL wasn't necessary. It's my laptop I still haven't switched over yet and it just received tasks anyway. And I spoke a day too soon. Mapping Cancer Markers tasks have now become available on WCG. Hopefully that'll keep my idle machines busy now And I finally got around to setting up my 2nd PC for VBox - running better than my main machine tbf, but it's only a non-HT quad core rather than 8C/16T. It all helps |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,526,036 RAC: 10,392 |
I still get this from one that managed to attach: The first one is from a week or two back. The one you're getting now is the current error message. If you remove, then re-add the project with the new URL, the error message doesn't go away. And apparently it's not necessary to use the new URL. Try to manually update again right now. New tasks became available to me about an hour before the message I'm typing now |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
First I remove WCG, then re-add the project, replacing the URL offered with the "master" one and it seems to work the first time on each machine.I tried several times on several machines to use the master URL and it never worked. ID not found in database or something. It doesn't seem to be any use anyway, the proper URL works ok. I engaged a 5 minute tickle on 7 PCs, and got loads of cancer tasks. It seems to be churning things out regularly now, so I've turned it off to decrease server load. No sign of GPU work though :-( I thought there was going to be a huge backlog of OPN (GPU) work to do? None of my machines are ever idle, there's plenty of projects I'm interested in. Mainly astrophysics and biology. I only have two machines that will do Rosetta VB tasks, since the other CPUs are too old and lack AVX. And one of those machines is the main one. And VB on a machine you're trying to interact with is ridiculous. It's like using a 286. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
First I remove WCG, then re-add the project, replacing the URL offered with the "master" one and it seems to work the first time on each machine.I tried several times on several machines to use the master URL and it never worked. ID not found in database or something. It doesn't seem to be any use anyway, the proper URL works ok. I engaged a 5 minute tickle on 7 PCs, and got loads of cancer tasks. It seems to be churning things out regularly now, so I've turned it off to decrease server load. No sign of GPU work though :-( I thought there was going to be a huge backlog of OPN (GPU) work to do? Oh...your the one grabbing all the work. All I get is about 6 Open Pandemics every few days and then its no work. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
Oh...your the one grabbing all the work.Sorry, I got 250 cancers. That's only 2.5 per core. Anyone got any CPUs/MBs/RAM they want rid of? I'm out of connections for GPUs. |
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