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.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
one of the `fun` things about the Linux command line is the `kill` command A great way to deal will zombie processes and rosetta workunits . |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
You mean exactly like pressing "end task" in Windows Task Manager? And wouldn't you be better letting Boinc kill it? Then it knows to start another one. |
Michael E.@ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Apr 08 Posts: 16 Credit: 1,947,553 RAC: 210 |
I did an experiment with one of these tasks that seem to never finish. I let it run. Elapsed time is now 4 days 5:12:xx hours with 00:00:01 seconds remaining. I am curious if it will ever finish and was curious about what the credits might look like, but the task took too long. The Rosetta BOINC status says the task has: "timed out - no response". Task id is: aagb-FPS_pp-mNMPHE-mACPenC13T-B3LEU_pp_3_2601503_6_0 As Sid says, if the time needed for a "Rosetta python projects 1.03 (vbox64)" is much more than is expected, stop the task. |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 2002 Credit: 9,783,459 RAC: 5,082 |
Ah, this is the problem. The Python book has only one use: It's a pity, the new version of Python seems great |
.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
You mean exactly like pressing "end task" in Windows Task Manager? Yes , true , and it iz wot I do , Just commenting and being a silly bint . |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
PyPy ROTFPMSL! Is that the one for kids?Ah, this is the problem. The Python book has only one use:It's a pity, the new version of Python seems great |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
You sound like a fun bint, what are you wearing? ;-)You mean exactly like pressing "end task" in Windows Task Manager? |
.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
You sound like a fun bint, what are you wearing? ;-)You mean exactly like pressing "end task" in Windows Task Manager? At the moment I am not wearing my one piece `avatar` na`vi suit , with tail , though the hair is real , I never was as good looking as Neytiri , or blue ;-) |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
If you're not wearing it then.... oh!You sound like a fun bint, what are you wearing? ;-)You mean exactly like pressing "end task" in Windows Task Manager? , with tail , though the hair is real ,I never was as good looking as Neytiri , or blue ;-)I'm not so sure that's a suit. Isn't that just her natural skin? https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Na%27vi |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,533,485 RAC: 10,732 |
I did an experiment with one of these tasks that seem to never finish. I let it run. Elapsed time is now 4 days 5:12:xx hours with 00:00:01 seconds remaining. I am curious if it will ever finish and was curious about what the credits might look like, but the task took too long. I'm rarely confident of anything regarding computers, but because I work away 2-4 consecutive days every week I routinely come back to one or two tasks in progress for whole days. With one solitary exception, they show reduced CPU runtimes of 1 or 2hrs down to as little as 20-something seconds. Not one ever restarts once stalled |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
You might be able to leave it running more than the number of cores you have, then if some stall your PC is still flat out while you're away. Not sure if you can do this for tasks designed for a single core, but I do it with multicore Cosmology tasks: <app_config> <app_version> <app_name>camb_boinc2docker</app_name> <plan_class>vbox64_mt</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>5</avg_ncpus> <cmdline>--nthreads 6</cmdline> </app_version> </app_config> This tells the actual app to use 6 cores per task, but the Boinc scheduler they only use 5. Or perhaps there's another way to tell Boinc you have more cores than you really do? |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I just got back from vacation and restarted my system. I didn't check it and today I did and I see this stupid project dropped me from VM jobs until I reset it again a bit ago. This project really enjoys kicking people off its VM stuff. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
I just got back from vacation and restarted my system. I didn't check it and today I did and I see this stupid project dropped me from VM jobs until I reset it again a bit ago. This project really enjoys kicking people off its VM stuff.I keep getting kicked off on a machine that never fails a VB task. It doesn't make sense. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I just got back from vacation and restarted my system. I didn't check it and today I did and I see this stupid project dropped me from VM jobs until I reset it again a bit ago. This project really enjoys kicking people off its VM stuff.I keep getting kicked off on a machine that never fails a VB task. It doesn't make sense. Nothing here makes sense anymore....new normal I guess. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
I await to see what happens when we get them all done, only two thirds of a million left, it used to be 15 million. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
559,612 as of 21 Jun. I'm sure they're slowing down. Maybe they're sneaking more in? |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,533,485 RAC: 10,732 |
No idea where to put this comment and I didn't want to start a new topic. WCG forum has come back - but no sign of any tasks - and a couple of things have been said. It's now apparent to me that the people taking over WCG are virtually a one-man-band (ok, a three-man-band) so expectations from that project in future are tending to zero for me. And a brief article on the Open Pandemics project while it was under the auspices of IBM make it clear that they've achieved the square root of f'all after two years. I get the feeling everyone's wasting their time. Distributed Computing seems to be heading downhill at a rate of knots. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
No idea where to put this comment and I didn't want to start a new topic.Bullshit. Just because one project is slow doesn't mean the whole lot are no good. Pick the one you trust. I do like the three man band reference though. I reckon it must be to take 4 months just to copy some data to a new server. Total and utter incompetance. WCG is almost running actually, I managed to persuade 9 devices to attach a couple of days ago, and now 3 of them have acknowledged the name of the project. Just waiting on my username, previous credits, then a work unit. Give the hamster a chance! My main gripe is you can't complain in their forums. Anything remotely against them gets you banned instantly. In the meantime I've been doing Folding at Home since it has biology on GPUs. |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
I get the feeling everyone's wasting their time. Distributed Computing seems to be heading downhill at a rate of knots. I have my own reservations too. For one thing, the molecular docking technique (both SiDock and OPN) has not yet been shown to result in a cure of anything that I have seen, just a lot of candidates for trials. Maybe Scripps can make OPN fly. They are working hard on it. And Rosetta is mostly out of it for us crunchers, though they continue their very innovative work in-house. For BOINC, try TN-Grid or QuChemPedIA. https://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/index.php https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/ But for the really most innovative science, and plenty of work for both CPUs and GPUs, there is only one: Folding@home. https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/?lng=en It is not a BOINC project, and the Linux client is a bit of a kludge (I have posted on it), but they are working on a new one. https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=356367#p356367 And they keep advancing their technology with new compute cores for CPU and GPU. Molecular dynamics (MD), is very compute-intensive. But it yields very accurate results that no other technique can do. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
You have to eliminate the wrong things to find the right thing.I get the feeling everyone's wasting their time. Distributed Computing seems to be heading downhill at a rate of knots. |
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