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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 8,091 |
Yikes, VB slows down a 24 core Ryzen 9 CPU, I dread to think what it would do to a little phone.The application does not give tasks. I have a lot of space on my memory card. I have Universe @ Home on my smartphone, which works well in the Boinc application. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Folding@home_coresI guess they have more programmers/money. You can't compare the two. FAH is staffed way better than GPU and it is older and more mature of a program It was designed for all devices. GPU: GPUGRID is a distributed computing project hosted by Pompeu Fabra University (a public funded university) and running on the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC) software platform. It performs full-atom molecular biology simulations that are designed to run on Nvidia's CUDA-compatible graphics processing units. FAH: Developer(s) Pande Laboratory, Sony, Nvidia, ATI Technologies, Joseph Coffland, Cauldron Development[1] Initial release October 1, 2000; 21 years ago Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis (Private, so they can raise money and spend it without limitations) and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande. The project utilizes graphics processing units (GPUs), central processing units (CPUs), and ARM processors like those on the Raspberry Pi for distributed computing and scientific research. So your really comparing apples and oranges while trying to call everything a pear. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 8,091 |
No, we're in agreement, FAH is a bigger organisation with more money behind it so has programmed for more chips.You can't compare the two.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Folding@home_coresI guess they have more programmers/money. |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis (Private, so they can raise money and spend it without limitations) and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande. FYI, Prof. Bowman is moving to the University of Pennsylvania this summer. https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=37813 |
Rados?aw Beata Send message Joined: 19 Nov 18 Posts: 5 Credit: 10,530 RAC: 0 |
I don't really understand. My smartphone Xiaomi Mi 9T pro worked under Rosetta @Home and I have probably 10,000 points there. Currently it is not getting any task. I'm using the Boinc app, so what can I do to get Rosetta to download tasks? |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 272 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 274 |
Currently all 239861 workunits are already distributed to crunchers. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php |
tullio Send message Joined: 10 May 20 Posts: 63 Credit: 630,125 RAC: 0 |
I don't really understand. My smartphone Xiaomi Mi 9T pro worked under Rosetta @Home and I have probably 10,000 points there. Currently it is not getting any task. I'm using the Boinc app, so what can I do to get Rosetta to download tasks? Can you load VirtualBox? You needit for rosetta python. Tullio |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 272 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 274 |
I don't think there is virtualbox for android. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis (Private, so they can raise money and spend it without limitations) and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande. These guys get around! |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I don't think there is virtualbox for android. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=VMOS |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I don't really understand. My smartphone Xiaomi Mi 9T pro worked under Rosetta @Home and I have probably 10,000 points there. Currently it is not getting any task. I'm using the Boinc app, so what can I do to get Rosetta to download tasks? Your phone works the same as us PC users. You got tasks when they were non virtualbox 4.2 plain jane tasks. You could crunch those without anything extra. This has changed. 4.2 is a thing of the past or very rare in having tasks and if there are tasks quite often they error out due to a bug in the code that the person did not check. So now you need virtualization software that allows these special kinds of tasks to run on your computer and phone. Look up VMOS and read about it. It requires rooting your phone if you haven't done that already, but it does provide the virtualization environment to run these new python tasks in theory. The majority of us use PC's so we can only guess and read on the net (same as you) what works on a android phone. |
Rados?aw Beata Send message Joined: 19 Nov 18 Posts: 5 Credit: 10,530 RAC: 0 |
Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, I don't have root on my phone and won't do it, but I'll try to get it running on my PC. 😊 |
Rados?aw Beata Send message Joined: 19 Nov 18 Posts: 5 Credit: 10,530 RAC: 0 |
Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, I don't have root on my phone and won't do it, but I'll try to get it running on my PC. 😊 |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 8,091 |
Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, I don't have root on my phone and won't do it, but I'll try to get it running on my PC. 😊Indeed. I have two phones and rooted the old one which I only use for Boinc. I would never risk rooting the phone I use every day. All kinds of shit could go wrong. It's absurd this is required for so many things. Whoever wrote the Android OS is an idiot. |
Paddles Send message Joined: 15 Mar 15 Posts: 11 Credit: 5,434,545 RAC: 2,362 |
I may have spoken too soon. The tasks were running for exceptionally long times (18-26 hours) - although unlike the normal "not doing anything" vbox tasks, they were showing significant CPU time utilised (rather than the tasks that "run" for 18 hours but have only consumed 10-20 seconds of CPU). I shut down BOINC, rolled VBox back to version 6.1.12 (BOINC recommended version, not 6.1.32 which I had been running), restarted, and all the vbox tasks came up with computation errors.I'm on VB version 5 (or Cosmology breaks completely) and it seems to run Rosetta Python just as well as 6. LHC is also happy with it. Kryptos at Home also hates 6. Seems like VB screwed up when they made the new one. Downgraded to VBox 5, everything was happy. Tried upgrading back to VBox 6.1.12, and everything continued to be happy, including an in-progress task resuming and completing normally. So maybe there was something up with 6.1.34 - and in-progress tasks can cope with VBox upgrades but not downgrades. So looks like I'll stick with VBox 6.1.12 for the time being. I'm only using it for R@H (or other enrolled BOINC projects if they can make use of it) so not being up-to-date won't affect anything else. |
tullio Send message Joined: 10 May 20 Posts: 63 Credit: 630,125 RAC: 0 |
I am using 6.1.34 on rosetta python, Atlas@home and QuChem. All go well, but QuChem has many invalid results, not errors. Tullio |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 8,091 |
I am using 6.1.34 on rosetta python, Atlas@home and QuChem. All go well, but QuChem has many invalid results, not errors.My QuChem works perfectly on VB5. The good VB before they messed it up. Why do you differentiate between "invalid" and "error"? |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 272 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 274 |
I think error means task crashed and result wasn't uploaded to server. Invalid means task ran to completion but result wasn't accepted by the project.. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, I don't have root on my phone and won't do it, but I'll try to get it running on my PC. 😊 Then you phone might as well do some other non virtual box work from another project. This project has gone to 99% virtual box. Look on the BOINC list of projects and see what there is for ARM projects, but then watch out for the virtual box symbol because the project may be only virtualbox work. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I am using 6.1.34 on rosetta python, Atlas@home and QuChem. All go well, but QuChem has many invalid results, not errors.My QuChem works perfectly on VB5. The good VB before they messed it up. Maybe you should check with the project for us and see if they know that VB 6 flavors DO NOT work on their project. Because I had the 6.1.32 and QuChem kept going unstable. So I gave up. |
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