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Message 104998 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 13:45:31 UTC - in response to Message 104994.  

Thanks for alerting them to it. But on what other project are they not monitoring their own work units for failures?
And on what other project are they not monitoring the forums for problems?

I sometimes wonder if they are serious about this at all.



One would think that at least the researcher who submitted these work units would be aware of the large numbers of computational errors.
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Message 105001 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 17:34:28 UTC - in response to Message 104998.  

One would think that at least the researcher who submitted these work units would be aware of the large numbers of computational errors.


Seems that no one is stopping the batch....
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Message 105004 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 18:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 104936.  

I have had a number of failures on the Rosetta 4.20 in the last couple of days, but all of the "movingstub" ones have worked.
It is probably because I am on Linux (Ubuntu).
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?userid=52455&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=



perhaps a solution found is to use the 4.21 version like i wrote here
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=14922&postid=105003#105003

Boinc do it alone .
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Message 105007 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 18:38:22 UTC - in response to Message 105004.  

I have set rosetta to no new tasks, synchronized with project, resetted project, and still get 4.20 workunits
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Message 105010 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:03:47 UTC - in response to Message 104994.  

Jim - as I said before, we are guenna pigs and our computers are used for leftovers and stuff they can't run or don't want to run on their AI system.
We used to be the front line and now we are back line. And with backline they don't monitor, because if they did then Sid would not be having to fill in the gap between us and the project.
And if they would have followed procedure, they would have found the fault in the movingstubs group via Ralph and corrected it before they released it to Rosie.
But this is the way it goes now.
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Message 105011 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:04:17 UTC - in response to Message 105007.  

I have set rosetta to no new tasks, synchronized with project, resetted project, and still get 4.20 workunits



Are you trying to get python work?
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Message 105012 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 105011.  

I was trying to get 4.21 application
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Message 105013 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:06:22 UTC
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movingstub_gzm1_minimize_3CL_AVLstub_0182_184_extract_B_SAVE_ALL_OUT_2908283_416_1

NOT FIXED! I had 25 errors last night after I killed 24 of these damn things and now I am 51.
After killing two rounds of this garbage I am at 165.
GEES!
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Message 105015 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:13:05 UTC - in response to Message 105012.  

I was trying to get 4.21 application



4.21? I must be missing something. I am only aware of 4.20
Maybe 4.21 is not released to us yet since they need to get 4.20 cleaned up before moving to a new version I would think.
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Message 105016 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:15:10 UTC - in response to Message 105015.  

For some reason 4.21 app is released only for 32 bit windows.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/apps.php
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Message 105017 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:18:50 UTC

Can I get an answer as to what is going on with this?
All my tasks over the last few days have been "computation error."

Included, sample of report.
Application
Rosetta 4.20
Name
movingstub_gzm1_minimize_3CL_AVLstub_0016_208_extract_B_SAVE_ALL_OUT_2906721_735
State
Computation error
Received
20/02/2022 09:04:33
Report deadline
23/02/2022 09:04:29
Estimated computation size
80,000 GFLOPs
CPU time
00:00:02
Elapsed time
00:00:22
Executable
rosetta_4.20_windows_x86_64.exe
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Message 105018 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:20:39 UTC - in response to Message 105017.  

Can I get an answer as to what is going on with this?
All my tasks over the last few days have been "computation error."

Included, sample of report.
Application
Rosetta 4.20
Name
movingstub_gzm1_minimize_3CL_AVLstub_0016_208_extract_B_SAVE_ALL_OUT_2906721_735
State
Computation error
Received
20/02/2022 09:04:33
Report deadline
23/02/2022 09:04:29
Estimated computation size
80,000 GFLOPs
CPU time
00:00:02
Elapsed time
00:00:22
Executable
rosetta_4.20_windows_x86_64.exe


Bryn,

it has nothing to do with your computers.
The issue is with the tasks that project supplies.
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Message 105019 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:20:58 UTC - in response to Message 105016.  
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For some reason 4.21 app is released only for 32 bit windows.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/apps.php



You don't qualify, you run AMD and Android
Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an ->Intel ,- x86-compatible CPU
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Message 105020 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 105017.  
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Bryn - when you see them. Abort them.
I've killed over 120 in 24hrs.
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Message 105021 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:25:16 UTC - in response to Message 105019.  
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It says Intel[B] x86-compatible CPU
Do you think if i install 32 bit windows in virtualbox i will be able to use 4.21 version?
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Message 105022 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:29:54 UTC

Warning! RAH is sending out moving stubs in bulk now. I just aborted over 130 of them in the last 5 minutes
Now setting RAH to no new tasks.
I have only 1 python running.

UNREAL!
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Message 105023 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 105021.  

No, because during the benchmarks BOINC will tell the project what kind of processor you have.
You need a intel chip and even then there is no guarantee there is work in 4.21
Your the first to bring it up.

Anyone else here have INTEL machines that are getting 4.21 or is it all 4.20?
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Message 105024 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 20:46:59 UTC

It says Intel[B] x86-compatible CPU

You need a intel chip

The description is misleading - it has nothing to do with the CPU.
Instead, those apps run on a computer with a 32-bit OS while the 64-bit apps don't.

On a computer running a 64-bit OS you can run both apps.
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Message 105027 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 22:03:51 UTC - in response to Message 105023.  

You need a intel chip

No, you need a CPU compatible with intel-x86, but it doesn't matter if this is a "true" intel CPU or AMD or whatever.
Also, it doesn't matter if it's a "real" 32-bit CPU, or if it's a 64-bit CPU that is also intel-x86 compatible.

As you can see from the application-page, if you're using 32-bit Linux/Windows none of the application mentions AMD at all, but if you're using either OS you can still download and crunch work units with your AMD.
"I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might."
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Message 105030 - Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 22:50:27 UTC - in response to Message 105022.  

Warning! RAH is sending out moving stubs in bulk now.
It has been doing that since they were released. If you keep aborting them, then it will keep sending them.
Just let them error out and the BOINC Manager backoffs will stop more from being downloaded till the backoff expires several hours later.
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