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Message 104769 - Posted: 9 Feb 2022, 22:28:33 UTC - in response to Message 104767.  

If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
WTF is so difficult about putting things in directory? Buy a drive, put things in a folder on it. Done.
The real question is why wouldn't you use one? It's been common sense since the days of DOS and it's limitations that you don't use the root directory of a drive for installing programmes or storing data.
Because he was only using the drive for one purpose, no need for directories. DOS didn't have these silly security things like modern Windows. Anyway, the bug has been admitted by the programmers to be in Boinc - too many backslashes.
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Message 104774 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 13:38:15 UTC - in response to Message 104764.  

Yes I've seen it. But the "everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch" suggested I should use a breathalyser.
To many diluted PGB's over the night?
I was referring to Clair. What's a PGB? I brew my own.


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Message 104775 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 13:40:19 UTC - in response to Message 104769.  

If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
WTF is so difficult about putting things in directory? Buy a drive, put things in a folder on it. Done.
The real question is why wouldn't you use one? It's been common sense since the days of DOS and it's limitations that you don't use the root directory of a drive for installing programmes or storing data.
Because he was only using the drive for one purpose, no need for directories. DOS didn't have these silly security things like modern Windows. Anyway, the bug has been admitted by the programmers to be in Boinc - too many backslashes.



too many backslashes - I thought that might be what they were getting at.
Crazy...but at least they know now.
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Message 104781 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 19:28:24 UTC - in response to Message 104774.  

Yes I've seen it. But the "everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch" suggested I should use a breathalyser.
To many diluted PGB's over the night?
I was referring to Clair. What's a PGB? I brew my own.
If your a Douglas Adams Hitchikers fan you should know that drink.
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Message 104782 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 19:28:58 UTC - in response to Message 104775.  

If you really want a M.2 then save up your money and wait for them to make a patch update for this problem.
WTF is so difficult about putting things in directory? Buy a drive, put things in a folder on it. Done.
The real question is why wouldn't you use one? It's been common sense since the days of DOS and it's limitations that you don't use the root directory of a drive for installing programmes or storing data.
Because he was only using the drive for one purpose, no need for directories. DOS didn't have these silly security things like modern Windows. Anyway, the bug has been admitted by the programmers to be in Boinc - too many backslashes.



too many backslashes - I thought that might be what they were getting at.
Crazy...but at least they know now.
Whereas in here you have to use 4 to get 1!
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Message 104787 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 21:41:42 UTC

This error message should be included with Boinc:

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Message 104788 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 22:05:15 UTC

I Love some of those error messages :-)
Others drive me Nuts
Some of the modern ones actualy DO give a clue as to what is wrong , well sort of,
Win 98 was so much more fun . . . .
DOS 6.22 did my head in
And Algol is dim compared to Cobol
Don't ask . . . .
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Message 104789 - Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 22:10:51 UTC - in response to Message 104788.  

You could edit command.com in DOS with a text editor. You could change the error messages which were in plain text. I made the errors for my friend's computer very rude.
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Message 104790 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 0:43:37 UTC

Error - 1D10T - Human input error
Stop fault in Hexidecimal - 000000xfffffff - it`s broke and we don't know why.
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Message 104791 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 0:57:38 UTC

Computer: "Select password...."
User: [Beavis and Butthead giggle] "PENIS"
Computer: "Password rejected, not long enough"
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Message 104792 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 2:40:50 UTC

O` why did I decide to check the forum just before I go to bed . . . .
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Message 104793 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 3:00:16 UTC - in response to Message 104792.  

O` why did I decide to check the forum just before I go to bed . . . .
I have all forums email me. Easier to see them all in one place. Trouble is I check email before going to bed and end up in several long arguments. It's 3am. Days should be 25 hours so I can catch up.
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Message 104796 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 10:02:40 UTC - in response to Message 104793.  

Why can't message text be included in email notification?
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Message 104798 - Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 19:44:40 UTC - in response to Message 104796.  

Why can't message text be included in email notification?
I'll guess either server load or stupidity.
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Message 104803 - Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 10:18:48 UTC

Hey everyone

I started crunching yesterday - but four of mine are showing computation error. is this something normal? Or do I need to suspend each one before shutting down my computer at all? - Has turning off my PC what has caused this? Thanks in advance.
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Message 104804 - Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 10:25:30 UTC - in response to Message 104803.  

You need to enable SVM in bios to compute virtualbox apps
And reset switch that automaticaly disables virtualbox apps when hos6t fails to compute them at
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6177189
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Message 104805 - Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 10:41:46 UTC - in response to Message 104803.  
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Hey everyone

I started crunching yesterday - but four of mine are showing computation error. is this something normal? Or do I need to suspend each one before shutting down my computer at all? - Has turning off my PC what has caused this? Thanks in advance.
It has tried to process Python Tasks, and they require VirtualBox in order to run.
Your system has VirtualBox, but is having problems running it.

Waiting for VM "boinc_722c34e89dac8a69" to power on...
VBoxManage.exe: error: Not in a hypervisor partition (HVP=0) (VERR_NEM_NOT_AVAILABLE).
VBoxManage.exe: error: AMD-V is disabled in the BIOS (or by the host OS) (VERR_SVM_DISABLED)
VBoxManage.exe: error: Details: code E_FAIL (0x80004005), component ConsoleWrap, interface IConsole

2022-02-11 18:14:31 (7376): VM failed to start.
2022-02-11 18:14:31 (7376): Could not start 
2022-02-11 18:14:31 (7376): ERROR: VM failed to start
2022-02-11 18:14:31 (7376): Powering off VM.
2022-02-11 18:14:31 (7376): Deregistering VM. (boinc_722c34e89dac8a69, slot#4)
2022-02-11 18:14:31 (7376): Removing network bandwidth throttle group from VM.
2022-02-11 18:14:31 (7376): Removing VM from VirtualBox.

I'd suggest checking your BOIS to make sure virtualisation is enabled, and then make sure that Hyper-V isn't enabled (under Windows Features).

This may be of use. (Similar hardware & OS and what they had to do to get VirtualBox to work).

If you can get it working you will be limited in the number of Python Tasks you can process due to the amount of RAM you have- from memory at least 3GB of RAM is required per Task to start processing (even though they actually use much less).
And you will also probably need to increase the default amount of disk space BOINC can use to process more than a few Python Tasks- just under 8GB of disk space is require per Task being processed.


You shouldn't have any issues processing Rosetta 4.20 Tasks (unless we get some that do require more RAM than the present ones), but until the last couple of days they have been pretty much non-existent for the last few months.
I would also suggest running the BOINC Manager benchmarks- they are used to determine the amount of Credit you get for doing work, and your system is showing just the default values.
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Message 104806 - Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 10:50:20 UTC

They were Rosetta Python ones that were showing the error, I have some of the Rosetta 4.20 working now.
I will have a better look at it this afternon,

Thanks for the info
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Message 104821 - Posted: 15 Feb 2022, 6:30:30 UTC
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All PcrV10AA_PcrV_HYF_ fail after few seconds:

<stderr_txt>
command: projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/rosetta_4.20_windows_x86_64.exe @PcrV10AA_PcrV_HYF_10298_000081_extract_A.flags -nstruct 10000 -cpu_run_time 28800 -boinc:max_nstruct 20000 -checkpoint_interval 120 -mute all -database minirosetta_database -in::file::zip minirosetta_database.zip -boinc::watchdog -boinc::cpu_run_timeout 36000 -run::rng mt19937 -constant_seed -jran 3753509
Using database: database_357d5d93529_n_methylminirosetta_database


Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00007FF64AC79D28

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Message 104823 - Posted: 15 Feb 2022, 8:58:10 UTC - in response to Message 104821.  

All PcrV10AA_PcrV_HYF_ fail after few seconds:
I've got plenty of _PcrV_ Tasks that have been processed and Validated, but it must be around 50% of them crashed and burned within seconds of starting.
- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00007FF7DA118316 read attempt to address 0xFFFFFFFF

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