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Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
It's the freaking M.2 drive.I'm sure they wouldn't design a board and CPU which can't handle one GPU and one M2 drive. I'm sure it's a broken drive. 24 channels. 2 x 8 for GPU 4 for CPU 4 should be open for the 4 channel M2. Then I am getting my money's worth out of the gear. (16 cores, 2 GPU's and a dedicated storage drive) Everything is used to it max potential then. If I could ever find another 1080 at the low price this server guy was offering a few years back it would be great. But the 1050 does fine, so might as well use it. Again, not in this game to compete against the big machines. Just a average machine that can do lots of things. Crunch, browse, play back DVD (Need to fire up Metallica newest release from San Fran orchestra) or CD's or utube). I am now at the point where I have spent enough money on BOINC related stuff, so might as well use it until it becomes outdated or dies. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
Correct, so you should have been installing to C and E. Why was it looking on D?I don't understand this. Boinc puts some basic stuff into C:. But the majority goes where you tell it to. You should have been able to select E:.Because the main section is a program. It falls under program files in windows. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1725 Credit: 18,382,444 RAC: 19,446 |
Because the main section is a program. It falls under program files in windows.Only if you choose to install it there. When you install Bionic instead of going with the defaults, you select the Advanced option. It allows you to select which drive the programme is installed on, and which drive the data is kept on. https://boinc.mundayweb.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_set_up_BOINC_on_another_drive Grant Darwin NT |
rjzak Send message Joined: 3 Jan 13 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,290,836 RAC: 0 |
I recently installed VirtualBox, since it came to a point where jobs wouldn't download unless VirtualBox was installed. Now the VBox python jobs get stuck, where the job ends up running for a day or two stuck at 99%. The worst was an instance when a job was at 99.999% for 8 days, then was "aborted by project". The use of VirutalBox seems to just add problems, in my limited experience. I'll save logs the next time this happens. OS: Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS Kernel: 5.4.0 Boinc: 7.16.6 from the Ubuntu repo. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Because the main section is a program. It falls under program files in windows.Only if you choose to install it there. I used to split it up. But then with the 250GB and 4.2 on the SSD and all the other stuff on the HDD, I just left it all on the SSD. But then python blew up that idea. For now I am SSD main and HDD for data and python can use as much of the left over space on the 1TB HDD as it wants until I get a work m2. If the next m2 fails then it just stays with SSD and HDD. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
I used to split it up. But then with the 250GB and 4.2 on the SSD and all the other stuff on the HDD, I just left it all on the SSD. But then python blew up that idea. For now I am SSD main and HDD for data and python can use as much of the left over space on the 1TB HDD as it wants until I get a work m2. If the next m2 fails then it just stays with SSD and HDD.You could always get a SATA SSD. You said you had a couple of ports left? |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I used to split it up. But then with the 250GB and 4.2 on the SSD and all the other stuff on the HDD, I just left it all on the SSD. But then python blew up that idea. For now I am SSD main and HDD for data and python can use as much of the left over space on the 1TB HDD as it wants until I get a work m2. If the next m2 fails then it just stays with SSD and HDD.You could always get a SATA SSD. You said you had a couple of ports left? Just swapped out the M2 for a new one. Been playing catch up using the HDD. Since I am shutting down now, I'll put in the new M2 when I get up. Stay tuned for any new drama. And yeah, I could go for another SATA SSD if this fails. Oh BTW Grant, I already knew the advanced thing. But thanks anyway. |
Falconet Send message Joined: 9 Mar 09 Posts: 354 Credit: 1,276,393 RAC: 2,018 |
Looks like a small batch of 600,000 Rosetta 4.2 tasks. Got na10v7nt on my computers. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
New drive, same problems as before. Taking it out and swap it for a SATA I guess. Waiting on Samsung now. You guys have not had problems with M2's and BOINC have you? |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 272 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 334 |
I have this in app_config.xml why do i still get and run rosetta 4.20 workunits? <app_config> <app> <name>rosetta</name> <max_concurrent>0</max_concurrent> </app> <app> <name>rosetta_python_projects</name> <max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent> </app> </app_config> |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
New drive, same problems as before.It's possible Boinc doesn't like them, or maybe just your specific hardware combination. I found it very fussy a few years ago when trying to get multiple graphics cards to work, but I think I ended up blaming that on worn out power connectors. They corrode eventually with all that current. I've never actually tried an M2 drive, since I hadn't heard of them before my last SSD purchase. Feel free to post me yours :-) |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I have this in app_config.xml because the project is configured to be covered under "rosetta" and does not associate the difference between 4.2 and python. That would require to much work on their end. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
I have this in app_config.xmlUnfortunately that's not seen by the server, those files just tell your own computer what CPU/GPU to direct them to and how many at once. I can't seem to find an option in the server settings to do that, they must have forgotten.... I notice you can turn off the VB jobs, but not the other way round! |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 272 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 334 |
I have <max_concurrent>0</max_concurrent> for rosetta app, but boinc still computes them. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
I have <max_concurrent>0</max_concurrent> for rosetta app, but boinc still computes them.It's possible there's no zero option. Zero often means no limit in Boinc. Also check Messages tab in Boinctasks or Event Log in Boinc Manager in case there's an error in your file. It looks ok to me, although the indenting is all over the place, but I think it ignores that. Mine would look like this: <app_config> <app> <name>rosetta</name> <max_concurrent>0</max_concurrent> </app> <app> <name>rosetta_python_projects</name> <max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent> </app> </app_config> |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1725 Credit: 18,382,444 RAC: 19,446 |
You guys have not had problems with M2's and BOINC have you?Both my systems have M2 drives and they are no different to other drives. You physically install them. Install the driver if Windows doesn't do it, Use Disk Management to partition it, then Format it. Once it is then visible in Explorer with it's own drive letter it's ready to use just like any other drive. Grant Darwin NT |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
Actually it does - to find these names what I do is paste in something with the wrong <name> (eg copying an app_config.xml from another project). Then read the config files, then check the messages tab / event log. I got this:I have this in app_config.xml Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'milkyway'. Known applications: 'rosetta_python_projects', 'rosetta' |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
You guys have not had problems with M2's and BOINC have you?Both my systems have M2 drives and they are no different to other drives. I installed it, partioned it and BOINC says to hell with your GPU's. I put the data on C: (SATA SSD) or E: (HDD) and everything is happy. Outside of BOINC it works fine in Windows. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 9,863 |
My vote is now for: You've found one of the billion weird bugs in Boinc's sloppy programming. I doubt they'll ever sort it, since it appears to only happen once in a blue moon, you must have chosen the set of hardware that confuses it. You're writing to the disk, you're using folding at home on the GPUs, I can't see how your hardware can be blamed.You guys have not had problems with M2's and BOINC have you?Both my systems have M2 drives and they are no different to other drives. |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 272 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 334 |
I have <max_concurrent>0</max_concurrent> for rosetta app, but boinc still computes them.It's possible there's no zero option. Zero often means no limit in Boinc. I have created a github issue. |
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