Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home

Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 157 · 158 · 159 · 160 · 161 · 162 · 163 . . . 257 · Next

AuthorMessage
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104234 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:44:06 UTC - in response to Message 104220.  

In your Task list, click on your computer number.
There will be an option to "Skip VirtualBox VM jobs". Make sure you don't skip them.


Thank you Jim1348!

The colorful Skip button at the bottom seems to be a Toggle switch.
Since I'm using Gridcoin, I can't access that button, once I'm banned, I'm banned forever :-(
ID: 104234 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104235 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 104229.  

You'll have to abort them unfortunately, unless anyone here has any tricks to get them to finish? I've had to abort loads recently.

No tricks that I have found. But the project seems to be doing more server aborts (202) to weed them out. There are fewer than there used to be.
It looks like they were created with the wrong permissions, or missing files, or something like that.
They should get them fixed eventually.
I get the odd one on my "good" i5. But I get them all like that on the other 6 computers, including a brand new Ryzen 9. Whatever the bug is, it's related to the computer in use. Or there are two bugs.
ID: 104235 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104236 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:46:48 UTC - in response to Message 104230.  

Download and install emfer Boinc Tasks program. Then you can look at CPU usage. If its 1% or around that, then the task is stuck in a loop and will not finish and will have to be aborted.
And if you set the task % to x.xx% then you can see each time the program updates (2 seconds or whatever) whether the % increases at all or if only by .02% per 2 second update. Again, if you see that kind of value then you have to abort it.
+1. That program is amazing. I have 9 machines all displayed on one screen, very easy to watch what everything is doing, all colour coded, loads of information, I can control the whole lot very easily.
ID: 104236 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104237 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:48:12 UTC - in response to Message 104231.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 18:53:22 UTC

Rosetta@home: Notice from server
rosetta python projects needs 18329.51MB more disk space. You currently have 743.98 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.


WTH? It needs 19 gigs of disk space? No freaking way! That's out of control!

Wow! now LHC it kicking up.

It was trying to run 8 pythons at one time. And I see now the drive is full, so maybe I just buy a new digital drive of 2TB and put BOINC on that on its own and my old drive can run windows and the physical drive can be storage like it is now.
With LHC and Rosetta running on 24 cores, my 0.5TB SSD got too full, the only other thing on it is Fallout 4, a rather large computer game. So Boinc is demoted to the rust spinner, which unfortunately is making a little noise with write access once every second. ARGH!!! Boinc never listens to what I tell it to do!
ID: 104237 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104238 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:51:51 UTC - in response to Message 104233.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 18:52:05 UTC

WTH? It needs 19 gigs of disk space? No freaking way! That's out of control!

Wow! now LHC it kicking up.

Been there, done that.
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5736&postid=45603#45603


Ok..interesting. So I set it to manually use 200GB and leave 8 free.
But what is interesting even before I did that it went back to 10 python, 1 QuChem (Like ATLAS I can only run one at a time without running into errors), 1 ATLAS and I found a GPU WCG COVID! along with the usual PrimeGrid and now its out of space again...shees. Going to have to put a project restrictor on RAH.

Got enough RAM now. 60% usage. Guess I'll have to up the drive capacity.

What do you think of a WESTERN DIGITAL 1000GB Caviar Blue HDD? $49.50/43.40 Euro
SSD are much more for the same capacity.
Do HDD's hold up better for loads of read/write operations than a SSD?
I think SSD are actually now more reliable than HDDs, so get one if you can afford it, NVME preferably, 8 times faster again - you can get adapter cards if your motherboard doesn't have a connector. And I've bought 4TB Sonnics HDDs for not much more, check on Ebay. They are very good. I've used 7 of them, one was DOA, probably a clumsy postman, but they replaced it immediately, the others have worked flawlessly ever since.
ID: 104238 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Greg_BE
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 30 May 06
Posts: 5652
Credit: 5,622,096
RAC: 58
Message 104239 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 104236.  

Download and install emfer Boinc Tasks program. Then you can look at CPU usage. If its 1% or around that, then the task is stuck in a loop and will not finish and will have to be aborted.
And if you set the task % to x.xx% then you can see each time the program updates (2 seconds or whatever) whether the % increases at all or if only by .02% per 2 second update. Again, if you see that kind of value then you have to abort it.
+1. That program is amazing. I have 9 machines all displayed on one screen, very easy to watch what everything is doing, all colour coded, loads of information, I can control the whole lot very easily.



Very good! I use it to monitor the progress and also the project update feature. Also i like the color coding.
My main use for that program is to monitor RAM and CPU usage and project %.
ID: 104239 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
.clair.

Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 07
Posts: 202
Credit: 23,833,155
RAC: 13,334
Message 104240 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:54:08 UTC - in response to Message 104231.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 19:09:03 UTC

Rosetta@home: Notice from server
rosetta python projects needs 18329.51MB more disk space. You currently have 743.98 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.
WTH? It needs 19 gigs of disk space? No freaking way! That's out of control!
Wow! now LHC it kicking up.
It was trying to run 8 pythons at one time. And I see now the drive is full, so maybe I just buy a new digital drive of 2TB and put BOINC on that on its own and my old drive can run windows and the physical drive can be storage like it is now.

Been getting those messages for a while , here
are some I copied, and the first is only ten minits after a reboot, even witn 200GB free , even rosetta got in on the act
-------------------
26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.14.2 for windows_x86_64
26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8
26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Data directory: C:ProgramDataBOINC
26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Running under account clair
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak)
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | CAL: ATI GPU 1: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak)
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1084.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1084.4), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak)
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 1: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1084.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1084.4), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak)
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Host name: KAMINSKI
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Processor: 48 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 62 Stepping 4]
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx vmx smx tm2 dca pbe fsgsbase smep
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Memory: 127.95 GB physical, 128.05 GB virtual
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Disk: 465.76 GB total, 226.80 GB free
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Local time is UTC +0 hours
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | No WSL found.
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | VirtualBox version: 5.2.8
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | Milkyway@Home | Found app_config.xml
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Config: use all coprocessors
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | Milkyway@Home | URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 742885; resource share 100
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | Rosetta@home | URL https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 3279599; resource share 1
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | General prefs: from http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ (last modified 28-Apr-2021 18:41:17)
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Host location: none
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | General prefs: using your defaults
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Reading preferences override file
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Preferences:
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | max memory usage when active: 129710.24 MB
26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | max memory usage when idle: 131020.45 MB
26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | max disk usage: 350.78 GB
26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | max CPUs used: 38
26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Setting up project and slot directories
26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Checking active tasks
26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Checking presence of 52 project files
26/12/2021 16:21:10 Milkyway@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26/12/2021 16:21:10 Milkyway@Home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
26/12/2021 16:30:01 Milkyway@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26/12/2021 16:31:26 Rosetta@home | work fetch resumed by user
26/12/2021 16:31:26 Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26/12/2021 16:31:26 Rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home | No tasks sent
26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home Message from server:Rosetta needs 1907.35MB more disk space.You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 1907.35 MB.
26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home Message from server:rosetta python projects needs 19073.49MB more disk space.You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.


--------------------
and that is with - on the `Disk` tab
used by boinc - 123.97GB
free . available to BOINC - 226.19GB
used by other programs - 114.99GB
-------------------------------------

V Mem cut
C = 134GB free
Restart
-------------------------------
O wot fun

09/01/2022 00:36:42 | Rosetta@home | Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'max_bitch'. Known applications: 'rosetta_python_projects', 'rosetta'
---------------------------------
11/01/2022 03:09:28 | Rosetta@home | Message from server: rosetta python projects needs 19073.49MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.
--------------------------------------
13/01/2022 10:52:12 | Rosetta@home | Message from server: rosetta python projects needs 19073.49MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.
------------------------------------
Makes me think is it the server that is low on disk space not us !
ID: 104240 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104241 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 104239.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 18:55:21 UTC

Download and install emfer Boinc Tasks program. Then you can look at CPU usage. If its 1% or around that, then the task is stuck in a loop and will not finish and will have to be aborted.
And if you set the task % to x.xx% then you can see each time the program updates (2 seconds or whatever) whether the % increases at all or if only by .02% per 2 second update. Again, if you see that kind of value then you have to abort it.
+1. That program is amazing. I have 9 machines all displayed on one screen, very easy to watch what everything is doing, all colour coded, loads of information, I can control the whole lot very easily.
Very good! I use it to monitor the progress and also the project update feature. Also i like the color coding.
My main use for that program is to monitor RAM and CPU usage and project %.
I have too many cores, the list fell off the screen. I now have a monitor above the other monitor (sat on a stereo speaker) so the list can fit in.
ID: 104241 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104242 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:58:34 UTC - in response to Message 104240.  

Been getting those messages for a while , here
are some I copied, and the first is only ten minits after a reboot, even witn 200GB free

[snip]

26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home Message from server:Rosetta needs 1907.35MB more disk space.You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 1907.35 MB.
26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home Message from server:rosetta python projects needs 19073.49MB more disk space.You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB.

--------------------
and that is with - on the `Disk` tab
used by boinc - 123.97GB
free . available to BOINC - 226.19GB
used by other programs - 114.99GB
-------------------------------------
I got those when I moved Boinc to a larger drive. Apparently it couldn't find anywhere to put 2GB with 2TB free! Presumably some kind of overflow in the calculation came to 0 or a negative number. I believe I fixed it by increasing the limits in Boinc. From memory, I had it set to use 90% of disk space, and changed that to 99%. Just make everything more relaxed.
ID: 104242 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Greg_BE
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 30 May 06
Posts: 5652
Credit: 5,622,096
RAC: 58
Message 104243 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 18:58:56 UTC - in response to Message 104238.  

WTH? It needs 19 gigs of disk space? No freaking way! That's out of control!

Wow! now LHC it kicking up.

Been there, done that.
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5736&postid=45603#45603


Ok..interesting. So I set it to manually use 200GB and leave 8 free.
But what is interesting even before I did that it went back to 10 python, 1 QuChem (Like ATLAS I can only run one at a time without running into errors), 1 ATLAS and I found a GPU WCG COVID! along with the usual PrimeGrid and now its out of space again...shees. Going to have to put a project restrictor on RAH.

Got enough RAM now. 60% usage. Guess I'll have to up the drive capacity.

What do you think of a WESTERN DIGITAL 1000GB Caviar Blue HDD? $49.50/43.40 Euro
SSD are much more for the same capacity.
Do HDD's hold up better for loads of read/write operations than a SSD?
I think SSD are actually now more reliable than HDDs, so get one if you can afford it, NVME preferably, 8 times faster again - you can get adapter cards if your motherboard doesn't have a connector. And I've bought 4TB Sonnics HDDs for not much more, check on Ebay. They are very good. I've used 7 of them, one was DOA, probably a clumsy postman, but they replaced it immediately, the others have worked flawlessly ever since.


Can't use Ebay here in Belgium. All drives show up from China or the US. Would get hit with import fees which would make it just as expensive as here. I'll have to look around and maybe see if my Dutch friend who shops in Germany can find something less expensive. Onboard SSD is 100+. 1TB SSD is a bit less..60-70 range. HDD's are the most affordable.
ID: 104243 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104244 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 19:17:18 UTC - in response to Message 104243.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 19:26:35 UTC

Can't use Ebay here in Belgium. All drives show up from China or the US. Would get hit with import fees which would make it just as expensive as here. I'll have to look around and maybe see if my Dutch friend who shops in Germany can find something less expensive. Onboard SSD is 100+. 1TB SSD is a bit less..60-70 range. HDD's are the most affordable.
Why can you not buy on Ebay from the UK or France or Germany, or the Netherlands? Shouldn't cost much to post to you from there.

Ah, the prices have increased, everything costs more recently. Stupid covid. The best I can see is a WD 4TB, the Sonnics ones have gone, maybe they went bust. Can you buy this?

https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/353557737108
ID: 104244 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Greg_BE
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 30 May 06
Posts: 5652
Credit: 5,622,096
RAC: 58
Message 104245 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 19:31:12 UTC - in response to Message 104244.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 19:39:12 UTC

Can't use Ebay here in Belgium. All drives show up from China or the US. Would get hit with import fees which would make it just as expensive as here. I'll have to look around and maybe see if my Dutch friend who shops in Germany can find something less expensive. Onboard SSD is 100+. 1TB SSD is a bit less..60-70 range. HDD's are the most affordable.
Why can you not buy on Ebay from the UK or France or Germany, or the Netherlands? Shouldn't cost much to post to you from there.

Ah, the prices have increased, everything costs more recently. Stupid covid. The best I can see is a WD 4TB, the Sonnics ones have gone, maybe they went bust. Can you buy this?

https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/353557737108



Way to much money.
This is the most I would spend and its onboard vs internal.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Internal-Security-SA2000M8-1000G/dp/B07VXC9QMH
This would just be a BOINC drive and nothing else.
But after putting out 160 for new RAM and now 100 for a drive, I'm done spending for BOINC for another 5 years or more.

But does an onboard drive have to be a C: drive or can it be another?
ID: 104245 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104246 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 19:48:52 UTC - in response to Message 104245.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 19:51:00 UTC

Way to much money.
This is the most I would spend and its onboard vs internal.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Internal-Security-SA2000M8-1000G/dp/B07VXC9QMH
This would just be a BOINC drive and nothing else.
But after putting out 160 for new RAM and now 100 for a drive, I'm done spending for BOINC for another 5 years or more.

But does an onboard drive have to be a C: drive or can it be another?
I've started Gridcoin, it pays enough to get the hardware free. Now only the electricity has to be paid for.

Your motherboard should let you have it as any drive. And Windows should let you change things too. It's more intelligent than it used to be. For example, if you start up your PC with Windows already on a SATA drive, and a blank brand new NVME on the motherboard, Windows will have C: for the old drive and nothing for the new one, then you call that whatever letter you want.

My computer has "disk 0" as E: and "disk 1" as C:, simply due to which socket I plugged the two SATA drives into. Windows doesn't care, it boots from whatever has the OS on it. If your motherboard is using UEFI (which they have for almost 10 years), the booting is intelligent and you won't get "can't find boot drive" crap anymore.
ID: 104246 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104247 - Posted: 14 Jan 2022, 20:23:58 UTC - in response to Message 104245.  
Last modified: 14 Jan 2022, 20:24:23 UTC

Way to much money.
This is the most I would spend and its onboard vs internal.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Internal-Security-SA2000M8-1000G/dp/B07VXC9QMH
For a similar price there are 4TB Seagate rust spinners if you want the capacity:
https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/304205798631
ID: 104247 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Greg_BE
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 30 May 06
Posts: 5652
Credit: 5,622,096
RAC: 58
Message 104248 - Posted: 15 Jan 2022, 0:22:57 UTC
Last modified: 15 Jan 2022, 0:24:57 UTC

That has to be some kind of error in the tasks.
It has settled down and I have 83 Gigs free again out of 208.

So I think I should be able to go with a 500 Gig M.2 and be just fine since only BOINC will be on it.
If Pythons consume more than 450 Gigs of drive then that is just absurd and those tasks should be deleted.

BTW. 3 bombed...

Name aaai-AGLY_pp-mNMPHE_pp-NMPHE-ACBEN2_2_2731360_1_0
Exit status -185 (0xFFFFFF47) ERR_RESULT_START
Stderr output

<core_client_version>7.16.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Couldn't copy file: fwrite() failed</message>
]]>


Name aaas-HPR-PHE_pp-SAR-mSUGA_pp_9_2430692_1_0 - same thing
aagb-PHE_pp-mTIC-GPN-B2ALA_0_2688121_1_0 - same

This made a diskfull error on ATLAS
ID: 104248 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104249 - Posted: 15 Jan 2022, 0:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 104248.  
Last modified: 15 Jan 2022, 0:41:03 UTC

Make sure it's nvme. There are (or were) some M2 (which is the connector) drives which were sata (electronically). They're about 8 times slower.

Some makes of drive are quite a bit faster than others for a very similar price. Check the specs first.

I'd have been fine on 500GB for Boinc. But only half that was available due to gaming.

I've still not had a single task work on 6 of my 7 PCs. The other one does 99% of them correctly. Very fustrating.
ID: 104249 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Profile Greg_BE
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 30 May 06
Posts: 5652
Credit: 5,622,096
RAC: 58
Message 104252 - Posted: 15 Jan 2022, 9:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 104249.  

Make sure it's nvme. There are (or were) some M2 (which is the connector) drives which were sata (electronically). They're about 8 times slower.

Some makes of drive are quite a bit faster than others for a very similar price. Check the specs first.

I'd have been fine on 500GB for Boinc. But only half that was available due to gaming.

I've still not had a single task work on 6 of my 7 PCs. The other one does 99% of them correctly. Very fustrating.



That is very strange.
We have given you every solution we know.
But is it the GRC computers that are having trouble or in the clear computers?
If its GRC, then that is the answer, it is scrambling the data.
ID: 104252 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
rkv_2401

Send message
Joined: 11 Dec 19
Posts: 5
Credit: 1,232,418
RAC: 0
Message 104255 - Posted: 15 Jan 2022, 17:16:58 UTC

Thanks to everyone who pointed out that virtualization was disabled on my Ryzen 3600 machine. I enabled SVM mode and it has been working for a couple of days now.

However, this wasn't an optimal solution for me as I would rather have this computer crunching SiDock/WCG and my 10th gen i5 desktop with 32GB of RAM working on these VBox jobs. In fact, I only enabled SVM mode on the Ryzen desktop because Rosetta kept sending me VBox tasks even after I'd informed them NOT to (with the toggle switch, as I'd posted earlier), and it kept getting WUs that always errored out and clogging up other BOINC projects.

I couldn't understand why a machine with virtualization disabled can doggedly keep getting VBox jobs, but an i5 from 2020 supposedly does not have hardware support for virtualization instructions. I checked again on the Intel desktop, Virtualization is enabled in Windows, VT-d enabled in the BIOS. So I investigated further and eventually realized that turning off Hyper-V on the Intel desktop made the error go away. However, this didn't work for the Surface Pro 2 (which I deleted from my list of computers after a month of no credit, it was a duplicate entry anyway) as Hyper-V was already off.

Anyway, I will now be devoting the i5 desktop purely to Rosetta@home and the Ryzen to share with other projects.

TL;DR - Rosetta@home kept sending me VBox jobs even after being requested not to and annoyed me into finding a solution for my problem :)

Error #1 - Virtualization was disabled on Ryzen desktop.

Solution - Enabled SVM mode in BIOS, ensured Hyper-V was off.

Error #2 - "VirtualBox jobs require hardware acceleration support. Your processor does not support the required instruction set" - on hardware that does support virtualization. (Intel 10th gen i5, 4th gen i5-4300U)

Solution that worked for me : Turn off Hyper-V (worked on 10th gen i5, Hyper-V was already off on Surface Pro 2 and I haven't found a solution for it yet.)

Other suggestion - the 'tasks' part used to have the last 20 tasks per computer up until some point last year. It was useful to determine the performance, runtime, etc. of a computer compared to another one. Now it disappears very quickly. Makes it difficult to debug why a task would have failed and also makes it harder to track the other parameters I've mentioned earlier.
ID: 104255 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
tullio

Send message
Joined: 10 May 20
Posts: 63
Credit: 630,125
RAC: 39
Message 104256 - Posted: 15 Jan 2022, 17:46:11 UTC
Last modified: 15 Jan 2022, 17:47:16 UTC

I have an Intel i5 9400F and it runs rosetta python on it without me making any change.Recently I could not connect neither Firefox nor Edge and I found someone had activated a proxi, I don't know how, I am the only user. I disactivated proxi and everything works on Windows 11. Was one of the frequent Microsoft updates to do it?
Tullio
ID: 104256 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Mr P Hucker
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Aug 06
Posts: 1479
Credit: 7,176,590
RAC: 9,139
Message 104257 - Posted: 15 Jan 2022, 17:46:21 UTC - in response to Message 104252.  
Last modified: 15 Jan 2022, 18:13:27 UTC

Make sure it's nvme. There are (or were) some M2 (which is the connector) drives which were sata (electronically). They're about 8 times slower.

Some makes of drive are quite a bit faster than others for a very similar price. Check the specs first.

I'd have been fine on 500GB for Boinc. But only half that was available due to gaming.

I've still not had a single task work on 6 of my 7 PCs. The other one does 99% of them correctly. Very fustrating.
That is very strange.
We have given you every solution we know.
But is it the GRC computers that are having trouble or in the clear computers?
If its GRC, then that is the answer, it is scrambling the data.
Since there are so few tasks getting done overall, I'm guessing I'm not alone by a longshot.

I have 7 computers all on GRC. One is fine the others are not. I can't see GRC scrambling data, I'm basically just part of a team, where the team controls the settings like which type of tasks to do. My computers do not connect through GRC, they connect to projects like normal. All the project does is check every day what my RAC is on each project.

But just to make sure, I will now connect a dodgy one directly without GRC, this one here, under my own private account, no gridcoin:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=6171676
I'll report back in half an hour when I see if they run ok or not.

Although it seems to me since there are complaints in the VB log of access denied, that it's a file it can't get to for some reason, which must be a local problem to my machines or a programming error.
ID: 104257 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive    Reply Quote
Previous · 1 . . . 157 · 158 · 159 · 160 · 161 · 162 · 163 . . . 257 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home



©2022 University of Washington
https://www.bakerlab.org