validator not running?
I've a bunch of tasks that has not been validated for a few days

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php
Workunits waiting for validation 396840

Seem to be increasing.
even though the server status page seem to say the validator is running.

As usual there is no information about what is happening. I don't know what I am doing here.

I'm running Folding@Home now.

Given that it’s now Sunday evening and the people who fix it work a normal working week I am not surprised that they are not posting updates every five minutes.

Are you so desperate for credits that a problem that does not stop you from processing, just delays the credits from going to your account, sends you running to another project?

Sorry, I just don’t see the emergency.

Given that it’s now Sunday evening and the people who fix it work a normal working week I am not surprised that they are not posting updates every five minutes.

I would be happy if there were updates every five weeks.

Are you so desperate for credits that a problem that does not stop you from processing, just delays the credits from going to your account, sends you running to another project?

I don't care about credits. Credits means nothing. Credits is just a digit on my screen.

As usual there is no information about what is happening. I don't know what I am doing here.

I'm running Folding@Home now.

Presumably, if you aren't interested in credits, you're downloading, running and returning tasks without any restriction and everything's great.
Lots of articles get posted here on everything the project's doing when they issue papers about them.
I don't think they've ever been doing as much work as they currently are.

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I am not surprised that they are not posting updates every five minutes.

I would be happy if there were updates every five weeks.

I would be happy if there were updates every five months

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Given that it’s now Sunday evening and the people who fix it work a normal working week I am not surprised that they are not posting updates every five minutes.

I would be happy if there were updates every five weeks.

Are you so desperate for credits that a problem that does not stop you from processing, just delays the credits from going to your account, sends you running to another project?

I don't care about credits. Credits means nothing. Credits is just a digit on my screen.

Then why move to another project just because your credits are delayed? I seriously do not understand the reasoning.

Well, for a while there the Validation backlog started to reduce (slowly, but it was reducing), but now it's back on it's way up again.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I’m surprised that the drop is so small - my backlog has halved and tomorrow’s credits are looking good :-)

I’m surprised that the drop is so small - my backlog has halved and tomorrow’s credits are looking good :-)

It looks like just after my last post that they got the Validators working again.
The backlog is now half of what is was, so with a bit of luck things should be back to normal in about another 3-4 hours or so.

Latest graph.

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Grant
Darwin NT

And the backlog has cleared.

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Grant
Darwin NT

That's what we like to see.

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Grant
Darwin NT

A task running MUCH longer than the expected 8 hours:

aaab_nNMALA_pp-SAR_pp-mPPS-BGLY_pp_2_2245795_6_1

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=1441862159

2 days, 8 hours, 32 minutes so far

rosetta python 1.03 vbox64

This is elapsed time, not the much shorter CPU time.

Now aborted after 3 days and 20 hours elapsed, less than 10 minutes CPU time.

The python tasks need a major improvement in how they detect tasks taking too long to run,

Could the current validator be written in Python, and having this same problem?

Reassuring it's not just me. I've had a couple of the vbox tasks do that. I just aborted a task that had been running for 2d 12 hours elapsed, but only about 5 minutes of CPU. Supposedly was 99.8% complete but I think it was "99.6% complete" a day ago, and has gone a past deadline. (https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=1443593989

In this situation, is aborting it the most useful thing to do? I'm not really worried about credits or losing them - just want the CPU time to be doing something useful. Is letting it go on long past deadline still useful to someone, or should I manually abort tasks that seem to be wandering aimlessly so that the processing slot can go to another task?

In this situation, is aborting it the most useful thing to do?

IMHO- yep.
For normal Rosetta tasks the default Target CPU time is 8 hours. There is a watchdog timer that kicks in after 10 hours if it's not completed within that initial 8 hours- so 18hrs all up. From the few Python results i've seen they generally run for less than 8 hours anyway.
So if it's not done after a couple of days, i'd abort it- or possibly exit BOINC & restart & see if it then finishes off by itself within a few minutes of restarting. If not, then abort.

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Grant
Darwin NT

THe show graphics screen crashes for "degrader" tasks on Win10x64 BOINC 7.16.20. Other tasks display fine.

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Well, for a while there the Validation backlog started to reduce (slowly, but it was reducing), but now it's back on it's way up again.

I noticed that, but was wary it might be temporary.
As soon as I was out of the country, the fix began and everything was solved by the time I woke up the next day.

So, next time there's a server issue, donate to send me to mainland Europe and it'll be fixed in no time.
Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my own email issues

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Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my own email issues

Still having issues?

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Grant
Darwin NT

THe show graphics screen crashes for "degrader" tasks on Win10x64 BOINC 7.16.20. Other tasks display fine.

I think those tasks have been like that for a long time now.

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I would like to apologize to everyone for all the negativity presented in my previous 2 posts.

I had a bad day and I was not fair. I am in a better mood now.

My current Folding@Home task will finish within 2 hours. And then I will run Rosetta again.

And right now I will just shut the f*** up.

I would like to apologize to everyone for all the negativity presented in my previous 2 posts.

I had a bad day and I was not fair. I am in a better mood now.

My current Folding@Home task will finish within 2 hours. And then I will run Rosetta again.

And right now I will just shut the f*** up.

No probs, we all have bad days occasionally, here’s wishing you better days ahead :-)

Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my own email issues

Still having issues?

At that specific point in time, yes, though in the last 10 days I've only had 30hrs at home on SunMon (15hrs asleep) and 10hrs on Weds night (6 asleep). I'm away now until Sunday as well... <sigh>
But I now think it's solved following a long chat with tech support.
Something to do with them resolving an issue at their end allowing me access using Chrome, but not in Edge (my preference).
It turned out clearing the cache in Edge defaults to clearing the last 24hrs only, whereas things have been going on so long I had to extend that to 4 weeks.
I hadn't realised cache clearance was time-bound and that was a key factor in my continuing problems.

Good that it's now sorted out, but so much of my travel required email access to mandatory formal documents I've been massively stressed. Now all that's over, the urgency of my need for email access has dropped off too.
And I'm glad I didn't lose any mail over the last 2 weeks - except now I've had to plough through all that too.

I'll have 4 consecutive days at home from Sunday. I'll need it.

Edit: I can thoroughly recommend visiting Denmark & Sweden for English speakers. Great place, great people who can't do enough for you (well, me anyway). First time crossing "The Bridge" too - couldn't be easier

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