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Message 79571 - Posted: 20 Feb 2016, 19:55:36 UTC

hi everyone,

Lots of questions, most of which are not to do with this project, so please feel free to post brief signposts to where I can get the info on other sites.

I have just returned to BOINC after a nearly 8 year absence. I am feeling frustrated right now as I know that in 2007 I knew the answers to all these questions....

Luckily I tracked down my Rosetta authentication code on an old computer (which itself hadn't been powered up for half a decade) so I am back with my history here.

I would really like to reconnect with Einstein, LHC, but don't have the authenticators for those two projects. I no longer have access to the email address, so being emailed there is not going to help me.

Can I use my cross project id to get back in there?

If not, any other ideas?

And Boincstats. My stats gif no loner shows up in my sig, though the HTML looks like (say) that of Bill Michael who does sjho up nicely. Has Boincstats introduced registration? Has Willy changed the HTML and I've just missed the change?

How do I llog in to Boincstats without remembering the password and without access to that ancient email address?

And if I end up with a new authenticator on each of those other two projects, will Boincstats patch it together with my old account when those stats are linked to Rosetta, which creates the continuity?

any help gratefully received
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Message 79636 - Posted: 26 Feb 2016, 20:51:04 UTC

I believe, if you know the project password, you could sign on to the project website, change your EMail address, and perhaps even directly view the authenticator from the website. R@h server code has not been undated to support this, but I thought newer versions could.

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Message 79646 - Posted: 27 Feb 2016, 19:01:01 UTC - in response to Message 79636.  

I believe, if you know the project password, you could sign on to the project website, ...


THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM.

As I already said in the OP, "I would really like to reconnect with Einstein, LHC, but don't have the authenticators for those two projects. I no longer have access to the email address, so being emailed there is not going to help me."

If I understand you correctly, by "project password" you mean the hex string tagged as <authenticator> ? Or if not where do I look for the project password?

Sadly (or happily for Rosetta) the only computer I still have seems to have been connected only to Rosetta at the time my internet connection died permanently.

FIRST QUESTION is there any OTHER way of connecting back to those accounts on those other projects?

SECOND QUESTION how do I get going again with BoincStats?

any ideas anyone?

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Message 79649 - Posted: 28 Feb 2016, 6:32:56 UTC

If you don't have access to your login credentials or the email address, you're probably out of luck. Such authentication measures exist for a reason; you could ask the administrator at BOINCstats to reset your password, but there's no guarantee.
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Message 79651 - Posted: 28 Feb 2016, 14:12:05 UTC

The password and the authenticator are not the same but if you can remember your old password and email address you can sign into your account on Einstein and retrieve your authenticator.

When you originally signed up for Einstein you would have chosen a password and unless you chose a truly random group of letters, numbers and symbols it might be worth going to the Einstein website and trying a few guesses. If you can get into your account on the website go to your account page and scroll to the "account keys" line, click view and voila! there's your authenticator and instructions on using it to attach your computer to Einstein.

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Message 79652 - Posted: 28 Feb 2016, 16:40:23 UTC

@River~~, yes you and I seem to have crossed terms. I would refer to the string of hex characters as the authentication string, and the way to signon to a project website is with a user EMail address and a password (the two pair referred to as credentials).

But it sounds like your primary avenue forward is to ask the admins of the various projects to modify the EMail address associated with the accounts, or to enjoy a fresh beginning, as you did when you stopped using the EMail address.
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Message 79675 - Posted: 1 Mar 2016, 19:32:08 UTC - in response to Message 79652.  

But it sounds like your primary avenue forward is to ask the admins of the various projects to modify the EMail address associated with the accounts, or to enjoy a fresh beginning, as you did when you stopped using the EMail address.


Sounds like my best bet.

@Snags: yep, thanks for the thought, but I've spent ages trying every password I ever remember using, like my first car, my first savings a/c, and some other things like that...

I did hit paydirt on CPDN that way, but still no joy with the project I most wanted to re-join. I used to teach General Relativity before I retired, so no prizes for guessing which, especially with recent news ...

Time to throw myself on the goodwill of the Einstein mods, I think!

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Message 79677 - Posted: 1 Mar 2016, 20:51:57 UTC - in response to Message 79675.  

...I used to teach General Relativity before I retired...


So perhaps your password exists in more than one form, on more than one project at the same time?

:)

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Message 79680 - Posted: 1 Mar 2016, 23:37:40 UTC

One other thought did pop into my head...since you mentioned BoincStats ...did you ever use BAM? I'm pretty sure BAM uses the weak authenticator to attach to projects so maybe searching for the BAM files would prove fruitful. A long shot, I know, but anything not to be singing the lost password blues ...

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oooh, did you see they discovered 13 new gamma-ray pulsars recently? (announced a week or two ago). Rosie is my first and enduring love but, yay Einstein!
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Message 79730 - Posted: 8 Mar 2016, 20:20:10 UTC

Not sure that BAM existed yet at that point-in-time. :(
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Message 79742 - Posted: 9 Mar 2016, 12:03:13 UTC - in response to Message 79730.  

Not sure that BAM existed yet at that point-in-time. :(


Ah, well... which I seem to be saying a lot these days. Long shots and wild speculation are failing abysmally (and somewhat predictably, at least I should have noticed we'd run out of tasks!). Fanciful dreams must be next.
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