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Message 73282 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 12:23:27 UTC

There is an issue with work preferences set at Rosetta@home overriding newer preferences set with BOINC Account Manager (BAM!).
Basically what is happening is BAM! is giving a set of preferences to a client and they are applied. Then, the next time the client connects to Rosetta@home those preferences are changed to be the Rosetta@home preferences even though the Rosetta@home preferences are older.

Here is output from a client log showing the issue:
5/31/2012 8:27:34 AM | | Contacting account manager at http://bam.boincstats.com/
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Account manager: BAM! User: 41385, Cleaner10
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Account manager: BAM! Host: 209294
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Account manager: BAM! Group: 268, Home Settings
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Account manager: Number of BAM! connections for this host: 843
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Account manager contact succeeded
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | General prefs: from http://bam.boincstats.com/ (last modified 30-May-2012 09:49:59)
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Host location: none
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | General prefs: using your defaults
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Preferences:
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | max memory usage when active: 1791.70MB
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 2687.54MB
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | max disk usage: 2.00GB
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | don't use GPU while active
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | max download rate: 10240 bytes/sec
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | max upload rate: 10240 bytes/sec
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Resuming computation
5/31/2012 8:27:36 AM | | Resuming file transfers
5/31/2012 8:27:50 AM | rosetta@home | update requested by user
5/31/2012 8:27:53 AM | rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
5/31/2012 8:27:53 AM | rosetta@home | Not reporting or requesting tasks
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | rosetta@home | General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 30-May-2012 09:33:01)
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | rosetta@home | Host location: none
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | rosetta@home | General prefs: using your defaults
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | Preferences:
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | max memory usage when active: 1791.70MB
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 2687.54MB
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | max disk usage: 2.00GB
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | don't compute while active
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | don't use GPU while active
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | max download rate: 10000 bytes/sec
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | max upload rate: 10000 bytes/sec
5/31/2012 8:27:56 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)

Here are two links to forum threads on BAM! about the issue:
http://boincstats.com/en/forum/18/7549
http://boincstats.com/en/forum/19/7488

I'm told by BAM! that the issue can be resolved by updated the Rosetta@home server software. Are there any plans for updating the Rosetta@home server software?
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Message 73287 - Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 10:14:26 UTC - in response to Message 73282.  

There is an issue with work preferences set at Rosetta@home overriding newer preferences set with BOINC Account Manager (BAM!).

I'm told by BAM! that the issue can be resolved by updated the Rosetta@home server software. Are there any plans for updating the Rosetta@home server software?


Not to put words in their mouth but probably NOT! Rosetta does NOT even support the version 7 series of Boinc, and they have NO plans to do it!! Their response is 'if it works for you then fine, if not use an older pre 7 series version!'
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Message 73288 - Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 16:49:26 UTC - in response to Message 73287.  

There is an issue with work preferences set at Rosetta@home overriding newer preferences set with BOINC Account Manager (BAM!).

I'm told by BAM! that the issue can be resolved by updated the Rosetta@home server software. Are there any plans for updating the Rosetta@home server software?


Not to put words in their mouth but probably NOT! Rosetta does NOT even support the version 7 series of Boinc, and they have NO plans to do it!! Their response is 'if it works for you then fine, if not use an older pre 7 series version!'


This is the only thing that annoys me. Rosetta is the only BOINC project with almost archaic BOINC software.
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Message 73292 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 10:11:07 UTC - in response to Message 73288.  

There is an issue with work preferences set at Rosetta@home overriding newer preferences set with BOINC Account Manager (BAM!).

I'm told by BAM! that the issue can be resolved by updated the Rosetta@home server software. Are there any plans for updating the Rosetta@home server software?


Not to put words in their mouth but probably NOT! Rosetta does NOT even support the version 7 series of Boinc, and they have NO plans to do it!! Their response is 'if it works for you then fine, if not use an older pre 7 series version!'


This is the only thing that annoys me. Rosetta is the only BOINC project with almost archaic BOINC software.


I use my gpu's to crunch too and ALMOST EVERY ONE of my Rosetta units CRASHES, and Rosetta said "tough", 'not our problem', that is a problem I have with them!!
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Message 73303 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 12:25:35 UTC

Well, that is disappointing to hear. I didn't realize Rosetta was so far behind on software and not willing to upgrade. I'm going to have to consider dropping the project because of this issue. I can't have all my clients flipping back and forth between preferences.
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Message 73304 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 17:00:25 UTC - in response to Message 73303.  

Well, that is disappointing to hear. I didn't realize Rosetta was so far behind on software and not willing to upgrade. I'm going to have to consider dropping the project because of this issue. I can't have all my clients flipping back and forth between preferences.


And I bet it's not that much of a hassle to upgrade. And imagine the benefits of not losing any more 19K-of-RAC crunchers.
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Message 73306 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 7:57:30 UTC - in response to Message 73305.  

The problem is that all the customizations, like the non-standard way Rosetta grants credit, have to be integrated in the new server version too. I heard somewhere that could be complicated.


If I knew how, I'd do it myself to help out. Although, the last time I tried helping out, translating the site into Spanish (improve the current version), I met a dead end, as in they stopped replying my e-mails (after they told me what I had to do). So I translated the wikipedia article into Spanish, but I couldn't even get the logo uploaded into commons because nobody at rosetta would reply my e-mails regarding the whole copyright issue. I know this stuff can be extremely time-consuming, but even I found time to help out and I'm in engineering! I guess trying to find a cure for cancer is a bit more time-demanding lol.

I'm gonna keep crunching Rosetta either way (I think it's one of the few BOINC projects it's worth consuming your RAM in), but I doubt that many people think the way I do.

Cheers.
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