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Message 64099 - Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 7:16:02 UTC - in response to Message 64098.  

Adrian, Rosetta does not decide what work runs at what time, BOINC decides this. It does this based on your preferences. Since BOINC does not have a configuration setting called "real store", you haven't really told us much about your settings. Even if you were indicating memory, you didn't tells us if this was the setting for when the machine is in use, or when it is idle.

The main thing to check is... what does BOINC say the reason for not running it is? The task's status or the messages should indicate what's going on. Since you seem familiar with the Windows task manager, another idea would be to suspend the task that is active, and see if the other resumes running. And then look at how much memory it is using. Or easier yet, it should appear in the task list if you sort it alphabetically and show you how much memory it is using.

If it is consuming too much memory then that would be something Rosetta might be able to address.

Do you know which task name is causing you problems?


Yes , I am aware that BOINC is what is loosely termed a High - Level Scheduler .
You seem to be expert at reading the bleeding obvious , there is no message from Boinc and I 've already checked all the obvious parameters that you've mentioned . Please be advised that I was a senior operating systems software engineer prior to my retirement , so I'm not one of the average computer illiterate cretins posting inane problems .
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Message 64109 - Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 17:01:10 UTC

Adrian, I'm simply trying to understand what you've got set up there, and what you are expecting the behavior to be. Is Rosetta the only BOINC project with work on your machine? How many tasks do you have waiting to run? Has it begun each, run for about 30 seconds and then suspended it? Do you leave tasks in memory when suspended?

As a senior operating systems software engineer, you must realize that the questions I've asked are highly relevant, and that you've answered none of them. Not even the task name and how much memory it is using. So I am still unable to use your report to build any theories about specific tasks consuming excessive memory.

Doctors make the worst patients, and the ole "...it broke. I did everything and nothing worked" problem description certainly sounds familiar.

Since you speak English, and don't have to translate the displays for us, and you realize the how intricate the configuration of the system can be, please use the terms written on the screen and describe your situation. Otherwise none of us cretins are going to be able to help you.
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Message 64115 - Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 11:35:20 UTC

So we're up to v2.00 on the Mini. I'm hoping that we're building upon a good foundation and cleaning up problems as we go... not just patching up this problem and that or finding work-arounds. I am very satisfied with the main bulk of the project, the computation... the graphic side isn't as important to me, but error creep, as it were, could always happen.

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Message 64119 - Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 18:17:28 UTC

Task 3a9bB_rebuild_loop_no_no_relax_16088_612_0 ( 297537645 ) hung on Windows 7 at 18% completion. According to BOINC it was still going but the Task Manager said it was getting 0% time. Invoking Graphics showed a blank black screen and had to be aborted.

Restarting the computer caused the task to start behaving normally again, but it soon hung (with the same symptoms) and I aborted it.

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Message 64123 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 8:48:08 UTC

i have my computer which crach with few mns of "Rosetta mini 2.0".

I know IT it's Mini 2.0 which cause crach (no BSOD), just PC is as sleep, i push button power and PC STOP.

i do severales tests
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Message 64129 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 16:30:58 UTC - in response to Message 64123.  

i have my computer which crach with few mns of "Rosetta mini 2.0".

I know IT it's Mini 2.0 which cause crach (no BSOD), just PC is as sleep, i push button power and PC STOP.

i do severales tests


Do you know which work unit you had problems with? Have you had this happen with more then one work unit?
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Message 64132 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 18:04:40 UTC - in response to Message 64129.  
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i have my computer which crach with few mns of "Rosetta mini 2.0".

I know IT it's Mini 2.0 which cause crach (no BSOD), just PC is as sleep, i push button power and PC STOP.

i do severales tests


Do you know which work unit you had problems with? Have you had this happen with more then one work unit?



hum i believe it is with: frb_0_8_mike_chosen_csts.noloopclose_ideal_hb_t369__IGNORE_THE_REST_1RXQA_8_16202_22_0, but note sure. it's an appli which is suspend.
i have not really saw the project, i have saw while minirosetta running, after few mns (2 or 3) my PC crach.

i'm under win7 x64 with 4GBs DDR3
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Message 64144 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 16:18:46 UTC

These mix_score12 WUs gave validate errors for both crunchers.

This one ended reporting one decoy:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=272164905

This one reported 12 decoys for both crunchers:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=272118041

Both WUs ended well before the specified runtime.
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Message 64150 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 17:29:22 UTC

i'm french, so.... ?

i can reset project and begin a new project without problem (crach) ?
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Message 64157 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 19:31:52 UTC - in response to Message 64150.  

i'm french, so.... ?

i can reset project and begin a new project without problem (crach) ?


Rosen, often people trying to translate BOINC terms, come up with words that do not match the English BOINC displays, so let me answer the two possible ways I see to interpret your question.

"Project" is Rosetta@home.
"Task" is one of the things your machine has downloaded from Rosetta.

If you "reset" the project, it aborts all of the tasks you have, and downloads all of the programs and files again (about 20MB of downloads), this is generally not necessary. If you "abort" a task, BOINC will try to download more work when it updates with the project the next time.

So, either way, your machine won't crash. But you will not get any credit for the aborted tasks. In general, you should not have to reset or abort anything. Perhaps you could post (en Francais if you must) what you are seeing that causes you to want to force a change.
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Message 64169 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 10:12:25 UTC
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Downloaded 9 wu's and they all errored out. The wingman on the wu's errored out also.

update: downloaded 4 more wu's on another computer...errors
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Message 64173 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 13:11:44 UTC - in response to Message 64169.  

Downloaded 9 wu's and they all errored out. The wingman on the wu's errored out also.

update: downloaded 4 more wu's on another computer...errors


Same here:
ERROR: Value of inactive option accessed: -score:dun08_dir

example: 298867941

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Message 64180 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 19:25:22 UTC

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Message 64182 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 19:54:02 UTC

Confirmed.
11/24/2009 2:47:59 PM rosetta@home Task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
11/24/2009 2:47:59 PM rosetta@home If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
11/24/2009 2:48:00 PM rosetta@home Restarting task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 using minirosetta version 200
11/24/2009 2:48:14 PM rosetta@home Computation for task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 finished
11/24/2009 2:48:14 PM rosetta@home Output file lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1_0 for task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 absent

TONS of this.
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Message 64189 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 0:30:57 UTC
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Add two more with the same error for me, so far.


https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=272594235

Wed 25 Nov 2009 09:31:16 EST|rosetta@home|Starting task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama02_A_rlbd_1bgf_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14887_508_1 using minirosetta version 200

Wed 25 Nov 2009 09:31:29 EST|rosetta@home|Output file lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama02_A_rlbd_1bgf_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14887_508_1_0 for task absent
=================================================================================

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=272841430

Wed 25 Nov 2009 09:31:29 EST|rosetta@home|Starting task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama09_A_rlbd_1b3a_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14894_617_1 using minirosetta version 200

Wed 25 Nov 2009 09:31:42 EST|rosetta@home|Output file lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama09_A_rlbd_1b3a_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14894_617_1_0 for task absent

<core_client_version>6.2.14</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 1 (0x1, -255)
</message>
ERROR: Value of inactive option accessed: -score:dun08_dir
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Message 64190 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 0:50:48 UTC - in response to Message 64182.  

Confirmed.
11/24/2009 2:47:59 PM rosetta@home Task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
11/24/2009 2:47:59 PM rosetta@home If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
11/24/2009 2:48:00 PM rosetta@home Restarting task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 using minirosetta version 200
11/24/2009 2:48:14 PM rosetta@home Computation for task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 finished
11/24/2009 2:48:14 PM rosetta@home Output file lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1_0 for task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama08_A_rlbd_2acy_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14893_560_1 absent

TONS of this.



can you post the links to those tasks that errored out like that?
there is usually an underlying cause in the task status report.
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Message 64191 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 1:37:56 UTC

Another three for me, same error.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=272594647

Wed 25 Nov 2009 12:03:07 EST|rosetta@home|Starting task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama03_A_rlbd_1kpe_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14888_508_0 using minirosetta version 200

Wed 25 Nov 2009 12:03:19 EST|rosetta@home|Output file lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama03_A_rlbd_1kpe_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14888_508_0_0 for task absent

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=272895767

Wed 25 Nov 2009 11:43:49 EST|rosetta@home|Starting task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama07_A_rlbd_1kpe_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14892_659_0 using minirosetta version 200

Wed 25 Nov 2009 11:44:10 EST|rosetta@home|Output file lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama07_A_rlbd_1kpe_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14892_659_0_0 for task absent

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=272895760

Wed 25 Nov 2009 11:44:11 EST|rosetta@home|Starting task lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama07_A_rlbd_1ig5_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14892_659_0 using minirosetta version 200

Wed 25 Nov 2009 11:44:18 EST|rosetta@home|Output file lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama07_A_rlbd_1ig5_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_14892_659_0_0 for task absent

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Message 64200 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 4:00:23 UTC
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Many of these lr8_combine_smooth_torsion_it00_rama##... work units seem to be failing in first 30 seconds of execution with:
ERROR: Value of inactive option accessed: -score:dun08_dir

The messages tab then shows no output file was present as well.

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Message 64212 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 11:37:08 UTC

I have the same Problems with Error.
It interrupts while Initializing the Calculation.
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Message 64214 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 12:36:00 UTC - in response to Message 64212.  

All:

I continue to have WUs fail with computation errors. When I look at the failed WU in the task details, I see this error:

Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x005763AF write attempt to address 0x00000027


It looks like this happened with minirosetta 1.98 as well (I found a few posts)

This is a new computer, intel Core i7 and Win 7 64-bit. It would be great to get this CPU working for R@H.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thx!

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