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Message 59156 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 18:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 59148.  

It is "minirosetta_1.54_windows_intelx86.exe" I have aborted, retried, everything, it is just stuck on ALL of my pc's.


My guess is that some anti-virus software either on your PC or at your ISP is blocking the download because the file is a .exe and it somehow looks suspicious to the anti-virus software.


I turned it off and nothing changed, I use the free version of Avast.


got any firewalls active?


No I use the Windows one, I have Windows XP Media Center on this laptop.


I also use the Windows firewall, but the Vista SP1 version.

Laptops sometimes have problems with overheating when running BOINC workunits but set to use 100% of the CPU time, and I think I've read that minirosetta is likely to have problems when set to run at less than 100% of the CPU time. What is your setting of what fraction of the CPU time to use?

I've installed the SpeedFan program on my machine program to check for overheating, but don't have the file needed to show results with proper labels for my motherboard yet. The highest temperature it shows is 109F, though.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php


I only run one core so the setting is to use 50% of the cpu's. Thus I do not have a problem with overheating on this laptop. I have it set to use 100% of the available cpu.
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Message 59157 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 18:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 59152.  

It is "minirosetta_1.54_windows_intelx86.exe" I have aborted, retried, everything, it is just stuck on ALL of my pc's.


My guess is that some anti-virus software either on your PC or at your ISP is blocking the download because the file is a .exe and it somehow looks suspicious to the anti-virus software.


I turned it off and nothing changed, I use the free version of Avast.


I also use the free version of avast!, version 4.8 Home Edition, without seeing that problem, so if it's that program, the problem is probably in a section specific to the operating system you are using. I use 32-bit Windows Vista SP1 with nearly all the updates applied; what operating system and what version are you using?


I am running 32 bit Windows XP Media Center and have been running Boinc on this thing ever since I bought it a couple of years ago. I was running Rosetta on it until this new mini-rosetta came out! I have run Malaria, I can run Poem on it right now! I have run ABC on it but the units take too long on this T2300 1.6ghz, 2 gig of ram machine. EVERYTHING runs except it just won't download, or recognize, the new mini-rosetta file! I downloaded the mini-rosetta file directly, put it in the proper directory, and it STILL wants to download that exact same file!!!

I am also using the 4.8 Home version of Avast.


I've recently run Poem workunits on one core of my HP Compaq Presario PC, model SR5125CL, and minirosetta 1.54 workunits at the same time on the other core, without problems. I previously ran Malaria workunits on one core and earlier minirosetta workunits on the other without problems, back when I could still get Malaria workunits. My machine also has 2 GB. I haven't tried ABC workunits, so you might want to try running yours a while with no ABC workunits active. I also run WCG workunits (all active projects there except beta test), with Ralph workunits and Boincsimap workunits when I can get them. I used to run Cels workunits, back when that project was active.

My CPU is an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+ 1.90 Ghz; what's yours?

This is an Intel T2300 dual core, only using one of them for Boinc, 1.6ghz machine.

Also, You may want to give your ISP the instructions for downloading the problem file with FTP, and ask them to test whether their antivirus software considers it to have a problem.

Yeah me telling Comcast what to do isn't going to happen in this lifetime. I can download any file in the World EXCEPT this damned mini-rosetta file and then ONLY thru Boinc!!!! I download the same file thru a direct download, Boinc just won't recognize it. Yes I did put the file in the proper directory. We have been thru this already.
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Message 59159 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 19:05:10 UTC

I am not sure that Comcast is the problem as I do use their AV software and Have no problems with downloading work ...
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Message 59160 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 19:14:19 UTC
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mikey, have you tried a different version of BOINC?
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Message 59161 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 19:17:13 UTC

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Please open the advanced view of the BOINC Manager, go to the tasks tab, and note the "application" name shown, this will have the application version. The only reports of tasks running that long are from the prior version. If it is not Rosetta mini 1.54, please select that task, and abort it with the button on the left. There were some problems like that on the prior version that are corrected now.
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Message 59162 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 19:24:53 UTC - in response to Message 59160.  
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mikey, have you tried a different version of BOINC?


Yes I was originally using version 6.4.3 but upgraded to version 6.6.3 and have since downgraded back to 6.4.3. Nothing has worked. I even had a couple of computers on 6.2.19 and they couldn't finish the download either!
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Message 59163 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 20:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 59162.  

mikey, have you tried a different version of BOINC?


Yes I was originally using version 6.4.3 but upgraded to version 6.6.3 and have since downgraded back to 6.4.3. Nothing has worked. I even had a couple of computers on 6.2.19 and they couldn't finish the download either!



Just a wild shot. ..

How is your disk space?

How about BOINC settings for disk space? Are you at BOINC's limit?
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Message 59166 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 21:06:07 UTC

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You mentioned that when you manually copied the .exe file that you overwrote the half-downloaded file. Perhaps Boinc tried to resume the download without noticing the change. I think Boinc must be stopped, and must NOT have the file half-downloaded for this copying trick to work.

If you've avoided the above problem and Boinc is still trying to download the file, check the messages tab to see if Boinc is complaining about a bad checksum. It's possible that whatever is preventing Boinc from downloading the file could also be corrupting the file when you manually download it.
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Message 59172 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 23:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 59163.  

mikey, have you tried a different version of BOINC?


Yes I was originally using version 6.4.3 but upgraded to version 6.6.3 and have since downgraded back to 6.4.3. Nothing has worked. I even had a couple of computers on 6.2.19 and they couldn't finish the download either!



Just a wild shot. ..

How is your disk space?

How about BOINC settings for disk space? Are you at BOINC's limit?


No I am fine on both. Boinc still has 10 gig available to it and there is over 20 gig total available.
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Message 59173 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009, 23:35:32 UTC - in response to Message 59166.  
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mikey,

You mentioned that when you manually copied the .exe file that you overwrote the half-downloaded file. Perhaps Boinc tried to resume the download without noticing the change. I think Boinc must be stopped, and must NOT have the file half-downloaded for this copying trick to work.

If you've avoided the above problem and Boinc is still trying to download the file, check the messages tab to see if Boinc is complaining about a bad checksum. It's possible that whatever is preventing Boinc from downloading the file could also be corrupting the file when you manually download it.


Nope this is the only message regarding the file:
1/29/2009 6:29:05 PM|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_1.54_windows_intelx86.exe

I exited Boinc, deleted the old file, copied the new one into its location and then restarted the whole pc. Then when Boinc started up that message, along with a few dozen others, came up.
I appreciate all the help but I am done trying to make this work. I am on to another project and will try again another time. THANK YOU ALL!!!!

PS in the time it took me to type this I attached to Poem@Home and got 8 new units plus all the associated files and the pc is now happily crunching.

Thanks again for all your help, I still have a hard time believing it is my pc that can download just fine from any other project but just cannot download one file from Rosetta. Here is a partial list of files just downloaded:
1/29/2009 6:37:15 PM|Poem@Home|Started download of poem_1.0_windows_intelx86
1/29/2009 6:37:15 PM|Poem@Home|Started download of JParmJan97
1/29/2009 6:37:23 PM|Poem@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 95475 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
1/29/2009 6:37:28 PM|Poem@Home|Scheduler request completed: got 8 new tasks
1/29/2009 6:37:29 PM|Poem@Home|Finished download of poem_1.0_windows_intelx86

As you can see it works just fine!! I do see that the mini-rosetta file has a ".exe" at the end while the poem file does not. Could that be the problem, no clue, seems it has worked for all other users.
Thanks for the ride it has been loads of fun but I am getting off for now. I will still come back and read and reply in the forums until my credits don't let me anymore.
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Message 59174 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 0:18:07 UTC
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mikey, whatever the problem is, it stands a good chance of clearing itself when the next Rosetta version comes out. The .exe will be a different name afterall. So, please monitor the new release thread and give another try at that time.
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Message 59177 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 2:43:17 UTC

Sometimes it is best to take a breather and come back later ...

At times the problems go away on their own for no apparent reason ... other times they can be found.

I have been doing Ralph for a week or so now and all I can say is that I am impressed with how many issues we found in 1.54 and now in 1.55 ...

I know that we all regret we could not get you going Besides POEM, WCG also does folding, and there are other projects that are related ... yell if you need us ... or want us ... or to say hi ...
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Message 59180 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 10:01:06 UTC - in response to Message 59174.  

mikey, whatever the problem is, it stands a good chance of clearing itself when the next Rosetta version comes out. The .exe will be a different name afterall. So, please monitor the new release thread and give another try at that time.


I will, I like the premise of Rosetta and that is what brought me here in the first place. I will certainly try again in the future, probably when you put out a new version as you suggest.
Thanks for all your help
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Message 59181 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 10:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 59177.  

Sometimes it is best to take a breather and come back later ...

At times the problems go away on their own for no apparent reason ... other times they can be found.

I have been doing Ralph for a week or so now and all I can say is that I am impressed with how many issues we found in 1.54 and now in 1.55 ...

I know that we all regret we could not get you going Besides POEM, WCG also does folding, and there are other projects that are related ... yell if you need us ... or want us ... or to say hi ...


Oh I have 17 computers, I think, on line here at home right now. All are crunching for Boinc, plus I have 2 video cards doing the folding thing. I do ABC and Poem right now. But if you click on my name you will see I have crunched for a few projects and am not intending to stop anytime soon. In fact I have 2 new motherboard and dual core cpus to bring on line this weekend to replace 2 single core machines. I have already set them to no new work in preparation for the changeover.
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Message 59184 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 12:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 59161.  

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I detached yesterday, and re-attached just now so there is no way to see (for me) what applications were running. Also, my computers are too widely spread to start micromanagement. Anyway, I'll keep an eye on a couple of computers for a couple of days to see if they reattach succesfully and if that problem is indeed solved.

I supposed it was a wrong batch (or application) and detach/reattach was the fastest way to have a full reset. If the problem shows up again, I'll let you know. If it doesn't... then thanks for the info!
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Message 59207 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009, 19:28:54 UTC
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disregard, found answer in short running model thread
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Message 59217 - Posted: 1 Feb 2009, 11:35:22 UTC

Hello with all.
I do not understand that some have problems.
Indeed my Desktop machine Intel Core 2 CPU Windows XP home x86 SP2 with carried out 27 wu with the v1.54 and 0 errors with an average CPU time of 2,8 hours. I cross the fingers so that continuous as well...
I specify only that betwen 80% and 85% of work, that passes directly to 100%.
With this new version I also notice that the processes generate more lures and attemps,(1 example: 23 decoys from 23 attemps on a wu), but as that the working mean by wu and more important as with the v1.47.
To finish, (although this n'is not the good forum), I specify that one of my Computeurs has been broken down for 8 days due to segments broken on the hard drive and qu'it is in repair. As it there to 3 wu as I n'is not puses to return before the dealine and which I think will be lost.
It would be thus although a person sympathetic nerve informs the persons in charge of the rosetta project of this problem.
Thank you very much d'advances...
Good memories...

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Message 59218 - Posted: 1 Feb 2009, 12:26:59 UTC

The 1.54 version seems to be in conflict with the Linux ABI in FreeBSD.
One machine I'm running boinc on is a FreeBSD one, boinc downloads and runs the Linux binaries through the Linuxulator. Version 1.47 worked flawlessly, but the 1.54 version crashes randomly on SIGILL. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=973136 shows only one successful task, which was run with Rosetta beta rather than minirosetta; all of the minirosetta tasks crashed sooner or later.
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Message 59224 - Posted: 1 Feb 2009, 21:13:19 UTC

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3.5 hours for 1 decoy? kinda odd i think.
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Message 59225 - Posted: 1 Feb 2009, 22:18:23 UTC

I've had a couple of these "Validate Errors" recently:

Mini 1.47 Task 223871308
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Mini 1.54 Task 224694361

Both ended with exit code: 0 (0x0) and seemed to run successfully, but with no credit given.

Is it something I did, a bug or just one of those things?
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