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Message 57847 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 13:57:17 UTC

I really hate to say this but I am giving up on Rosetta. After contributing more than 800,000 credits over the past 2 years Rosetta has given me too many headaches. I have stopped crunching Rosetta every now and then because of problems with certain WUs or versions of the client but have kept coming back after the problems supposedly have been fixed. I am getting tired of having to do this. The latest problem with WUs taking more than 24 hours on some of my computers when I have a 3 hour run time in my prefrences is straw that broke the camels back. I have had to abort WUs because they wont meet deadlines because of the super long run times. I am now going to finish all my Rosetta WUs and remove the project from all my computers. World Community Grid has been rock solid for me. And it has some great causes (like Rosetta) to crunch for. I hope that one day the Rosetta team will be able to make their project solid so people will not run into these problems.

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Message 57848 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 14:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 57847.  



hopefully you can return some day when things stabilize..




I really hate to say this but I am giving up on Rosetta. After contributing more than 800,000 credits over the past 2 years Rosetta has given me too many headaches. I have stopped crunching Rosetta every now and then because of problems with certain WUs or versions of the client but have kept coming back after the problems supposedly have been fixed. I am getting tired of having to do this. The latest problem with WUs taking more than 24 hours on some of my computers when I have a 3 hour run time in my prefrences is straw that broke the camels back. I have had to abort WUs because they wont meet deadlines because of the super long run times. I am now going to finish all my Rosetta WUs and remove the project from all my computers. World Community Grid has been rock solid for me. And it has some great causes (like Rosetta) to crunch for. I hope that one day the Rosetta team will be able to make their project solid so people will not run into these problems.

Eric

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Message 57849 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 15:06:41 UTC - in response to Message 57848.  

to bad he gave up, but where one leaves more come in. It appears that according to Boinc stats there are about 100+ NEW users per day that join. But then you look at another graph and you see that while the total number of users per month grows the number of users getting credit drops.



hopefully you can return some day when things stabilize..




I really hate to say this but I am giving up on Rosetta. After contributing more than 800,000 credits over the past 2 years Rosetta has given me too many headaches. I have stopped crunching Rosetta every now and then because of problems with certain WUs or versions of the client but have kept coming back after the problems supposedly have been fixed. I am getting tired of having to do this. The latest problem with WUs taking more than 24 hours on some of my computers when I have a 3 hour run time in my prefrences is straw that broke the camels back. I have had to abort WUs because they wont meet deadlines because of the super long run times. I am now going to finish all my Rosetta WUs and remove the project from all my computers. World Community Grid has been rock solid for me. And it has some great causes (like Rosetta) to crunch for. I hope that one day the Rosetta team will be able to make their project solid so people will not run into these problems.

Eric


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Message 57850 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 15:39:45 UTC - in response to Message 57849.  

to bad he gave up, but where one leaves more come in. It appears that according to Boinc stats there are about 100+ NEW users per day that join. But then you look at another graph and you see that while the total number of users per month grows the number of users getting credit drops.



hopefully you can return some day when things stabilize..




I really hate to say this but I am giving up on Rosetta. After contributing more than 800,000 credits over the past 2 years Rosetta has given me too many headaches. I have stopped crunching Rosetta every now and then because of problems with certain WUs or versions of the client but have kept coming back after the problems supposedly have been fixed. I am getting tired of having to do this. The latest problem with WUs taking more than 24 hours on some of my computers when I have a 3 hour run time in my prefrences is straw that broke the camels back. I have had to abort WUs because they wont meet deadlines because of the super long run times. I am now going to finish all my Rosetta WUs and remove the project from all my computers. World Community Grid has been rock solid for me. And it has some great causes (like Rosetta) to crunch for. I hope that one day the Rosetta team will be able to make their project solid so people will not run into these problems.

Eric




the thing is that... the TFlops barely rise... its been around 81 for weeks now.

I insist, R@H needs to re-design their page... to make it look more professional and user friendly. I would be more than glad to help out with the graphics and so forth.
But it looks like the team doesn't care?

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Message 57862 - Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 13:10:08 UTC

Me too!

I have decided to leave this project, too. I am not one of those admins with a big farm of server available. I am using private computers to participate. So every hour of wasted crunching is a hour too much. The last single compute error was after 23 hours.

To make it clear: I am not after the credits but after my contribution to the scientific result. And if I count the time of invalid wu I got recently, i count a total of about one week of wasted computing.

Perhaps I will take a look at World Community Grid.
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Message 57864 - Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 15:19:03 UTC

@rochester
hopefully you can return some day when things stabilize...


I've been with Rosetta since 2005 and today's environment is no more stable than 3 years ago, maybe less so. Stability is cyclic and unpredictable as the project team speeds up new investigations. How many projects also have a test bed like Ralph before realeasing new apps? Despite Ralph we continue to get errors though. I just think everyone would be more tolerant of errors if they were fixed expeditiously. Getting poked once with a needle is painful but tolerable, getting poked repeteadly will invoke violent reaction. Here it means taking ones computer and going elsewhere.
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Message 57865 - Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 16:14:49 UTC - in response to Message 57864.  

i had problems for over 2 weeks but it looks like it worked itself out now ......at least so far for me



@rochester
hopefully you can return some day when things stabilize...


I've been with Rosetta since 2005 and today's environment is no more stable than 3 years ago, maybe less so. Stability is cyclic and unpredictable as the project team speeds up new investigations. How many projects also have a test bed like Ralph before realeasing new apps? Despite Ralph we continue to get errors though. I just think everyone would be more tolerant of errors if they were fixed expeditiously. Getting poked once with a needle is painful but tolerable, getting poked repeteadly will invoke violent reaction. Here it means taking ones computer and going elsewhere.

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