What does everyone think of:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110202461065&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT&ih=001

I have started this back in the summer, and I need to gain more supporters.

Basically, you make a certain donation, and I will "crunch numbers" under your account. So you get the credits/points.

Recently, Dr. David Anderson (Director of BOINC and SETI@Home) approved this.

We all know that the U.S have cheap Computers and electricity compared to other countries. And living in a capitalist

country, I think this is the way to go.

Here, I am trying to build a folding farm to crunch numbers.

These are the estimated costs for crunching for one month on a quad core machine:
$0.104 (avg cost per KwH for 2006) x 24 hrs x 30 days x 0.2 KwH (200 Watts) = $14.976

Average cost per KiloWatt is based on Average Retail Price from the EIA
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epat7p4.html

There are also additional costs, such as hardware, AC during the summer, among others.
In addition, I have Dual core machines too, which will cost more for electricity.

So, I've sort of came up with a donation schedule, if you have a opinion, please be glad to let me know.
$30 per month for Core 2 Quad @ 3.0GHz
$15 per month for Core 2 Duo @3.0GHz (I will be very disadvantaged here, but since Dual core only pump out about half as

much points as a quad anyways.

So, if it costs you a lot of money to keep up with your "old" machines (say Athlon XP or Pentium 4), why not put the

resources together and I will crunch for you.

Again, I've started this since summer, and have purchased several Quad and Dual core computers.
I hope to keep this up. If I see there is a steady flow of sponsors, I will buy more machines.
For now, I am putting all the money that I receive into buying more computers. I am absorbing all the electricity costs for

now.

If you have any questions, please email me at forfleabay@gmail.com

Also, please take a look at the ebay listing. I put it there to get some attention, but it was too expensive with ebay

fees.... So I am posting here.

REMEMBER, even if you don't donate, my computers will still be "crunching". But if you do sponsor, I will be able to grow

the farm.

Here are my stats for BOINC (WCG and SETI):
http://boincstats.boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=wcg&id=43317

Here are my stats for Folding@Home:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=chungenhung

For those that think this is a scam, it is not. I have been a cruncher since 2004. In addition, you can check my ebay ratings.

For those that have a "old" computer or simply parts, I am will to take them and in exchange, offer you "crunching time" from my grid. I see this as reusing parts that you don't need, or otherwise would cause you more trouble.

I like the idea. I've had a similar one. But to legitimize yourself, you will need to get formal non-profit status, and that will make contributions to you tax deductable.

I've been thinking of doing such a thing, get people to donate old computers, set them up and run them until they die. Then scavange parts to keep others running. ...but I do not have the required hardware knowledge to do such a thing.

With my idea, you would be giving twice. Because I was picturing making it like a "heat for those who need it" kind of thing. Get folks to sponsor a rack of machines. Then place the rack in the home of an elderly or otherwise needy person, and pay all, or the appropriate portion of their electric bill (the elderly don't tend to use a lot of electronics that the rest of the bill should be any too great). Get high school kids to collect old machines; monitor, assemble and maintain them etc. So it becomes a kind of community outreach program. Gets teens involved in their community. Gets needed heat to the elderly. Gives crunching power to Rosetta. Keeps some PCs out of landfills.

A rack or two wouldn't be enough to heat an entire home probably... but it would go a very long way. Putting a much needed dent in the heating bill.

Perhaps get a local internet service to sponsor the internet usage of the program. The power company might even cut you a deal. Especially if you could come up with a way to leave the machine powered on, but idle the CPU, and thus cut the power when they want you to. At present, the only programs my power company has involve completely cutting power for various, unpredictable, hours of the day. But their goal is always load control. If you got a large enough program going, it might give them some load control. ...course that cuts in to the heat you're getting as well.

...no, (my opinion), I wouldn't accept a Summer surcharge for A/C. You will have to find a way to dump the heat. Or make it a Winter only program.

...and no (my opinion), I wouldn't accept you buying a new computer with the donated money. *Run* a computer, fine, but not *buy* one.

By the way, if you get a number of machines in the same location, see my other thread about a cacheing system I'm working on.

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Running Microsoft's "System Idle Process" will never help cure cancer, AIDS nor Alzheimer's. But running Rosetta@home just might!
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

I am just starting this, and it will take a GOOD WHILE.
But your idea is certainly great.

If you were buying computers just for grid computing, the 40GB version of the Play Station 3 would seem to be the most efficient, but unfortunately not all projects have PS3 clients written for them.

I've read that the 40GB PS3 uses about 140 Watts for about 25 GFlops of output.

The older PS3s use about 200 Watts for the same output.

I do have a couple of PS3s. I have more PC because PCs have more projects to work on.

If you were buying computers just for grid computing, the 40GB version of the Play Station 3 would seem to be the most efficient, but unfortunately not all projects have PS3 clients written for them.

I've read that the 40GB PS3 uses about 140 Watts for about 25 GFlops of output.

The older PS3s use about 200 Watts for the same output.

If you were buying computers just for grid computing, the 40GB version of the Play Station 3 would seem to be the most efficient, but unfortunately not all projects have PS3 clients written for them.

I've read that the 40GB PS3 uses about 140 Watts for about 25 GFlops of output.

The older PS3s use about 200 Watts for the same output.

These are theoretical capabilities but on the other hand it is not so easy to create an application that will fully utilize the PS3's computing power. An application must be very parallelizable and be able to fit in the PS3's memory capacity and bandwidth constraints. The software difficulties are a big reason why PS3's aren't being harnessed very well by BOINC projects.

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For Boinc projects, PS3Grid and Yoyo@Home's OGR-25 project are able to use all six of the ps/3's spe's. Iirc, someone mentioned that Seti will now also utilize all six of the spe's.

For non-Boinc projects, there's always Folding@Home: "So, the upshot is that the new PS3 client in GB does a lot more flops per client, often as many as 35GF in some calculations running in the lab."



Guess you just gotta be willing to put in the effort in order to reap the rewards...

The software difficulties are a big reason why PS3's aren't being harnessed very well by BOINC projects.

Sounds like a good plan if you can get all the tax breaks too.

How much would you expect if someone wanted you to dedicate a computer to ClimatePrediction which take a few months.

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Sounds like a good plan if you can get all the tax breaks too.

How much would you expect if someone wanted you to dedicate a computer to ClimatePrediction which take a few months.

I would still suggest the stated $30 per month for the quad core.
A more detailed page:
http://www.wysiwygecafe.com/sponsored_computing/index.cfm?fuseaction=intro
If you have any suggestions please email me using the email address provided in the above link

COST?

To determine the full cost, you gotta figure in a life-span for the equipment (I conservatively use 3 years) and divide the equipment costs by total months (36) and then add the monthly electricity bill to figure out a monthly cost that includes equipment and electricity (but donates your time). Space also has a cost depending on how big you go.


NON-PROFIT?

I looked into whether or not I could create a formal charity that crunched for science. The U.S. government does not currently recognize 'computer farms crunching numbers for science research' as something that can gain non-profit status. I did not apply myself to become a charity, but numerous SETI folks have tried to do this.


TAXES?

If you want to receive monies from other people for a hobby (since it can't be a charity), then you will need to show the cost of your hobby is greater than the money you take in, but you can only do this for the period of 3 years (have a non-profitable hobby). After then, if you want to be in compliance with Federal Law, you would have to do more relating to taxes (I am not an accountant). So, if you did this for more than 3 years, you may be setting yourself up to be audited by the IRS.

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buyer beware, I donated to chungenhung over 48 hours ago. I haven't heard from him yet. I will keep everyone posted.

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Hi, I tried to contact you 3 times!!! I was trying to ask what organization you want me to run BOINC for. I did not assume you are from Rosetta@home because I don't know that. Maybe now I know. But you can be on another BOINC group too.
Email me and tell me the organization you want me to run under.

Again, this is a misunderstanding, as I tried to contact you via email (your paypal email), and so far no direct reply from you.

The machine is already ready to crunch away!!!

For those that are still skeptics, heck i am even willing to crunch for 1 week free for you to show that this is certainly NOT scam. I am also an ebay seller, I have well over 500 feedbacks. for those that care, http://myworld.ebay.com/careaboutyou

buyer beware, I donated to chungenhung over 48 hours ago. I haven't heard from him yet. I will keep everyone posted.

he sent me a refund saying that his ISP is cracking down on his hub...

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For now, I am still working the issue out with my ISP situation.
I will keep you posted when I am sure that internet would not be interrupted on my BOINC machines. For now, I am still crunching, but smaller amount.

he sent me a refund saying that his ISP is cracking down on his hub...

Im sorry to jump into this thread to disturb..

It seems like there is a little interest for paying for computation..

I have a little farm of 10-12 different computers running boinc at the moment.. I dont have any network problems ;)

If anyone is interested i can sell cpu time to anyone of you. I dont know wich price to charge just yet. Power consuption for my example server is around 25$/month but i dont care about that so much. I just wanna help crunch for different projects and if I can get assisted with sponsoring for my power bill Im happy!

I will make this a little trial. If it is successful i will open up a new thread in this forum...

The computer that will be into this little trial is the following:

CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz [Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7]
Number of CPUs 4 (2 fysical, 4 logical)
Operating System Linux (Ubuntu 7.10 Server)
2.6.22-14-server

Stats from the last measure:
Measured floating point speed 923.73 million ops/sec (per cpu)
Measured integer speed 1368.45 million ops/sec (per cpu)

Total floating point speed 3694.92 million ops/sec
Total integer speed 5473.8 million ops/sec

I plan to charge 4$/week to compute under your username with this machine.

If you are intressted, please send me a mail with your preferred project and your username (mail adress) and password and i will provide you with my pay-pal account (you must be able to pay me over paypal).

I wont post my paypal here since i dont want to many users for this trial.(if there will be any)

What do you guys think about this?

My BOINCstats account: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=519689

My Email adress to contact: magnus@mephisto.nu

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The ISP issue has been solved...

he sent me a refund saying that his ISP is cracking down on his hub...