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Message 48275 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 19:58:48 UTC

I would like to say on behalf of the Team England administrators, that we regret any offence caused to the project or its supporters by the posting of this thread. That said however, we do not feel any ‘shame’ in having done so.

Although we are a young team, we started out in the BBC Climate Change Experiment a little under two years ago, we are committed to providing the greatest amount of volunteered computing resources to all of the worthwhile and deserving projects as we can possibly muster. Our support for Rosetta@home (one of our own primary projects) only began in April of this year, but we have steadily grown in number and have increased our contributions so that we now stand in the top 450 of 6000+ teams.

Of course, while the relative merits of Rosetta and Seti may be debated, without doubt Seti is the gateway through which most others pass on their way to crunching for other projects. You need look no further than several of the posters here as evidence of that.

We believe, therefore, that by participating in this event, which is intended to be a friendly and light-hearted competition lasting only for a couple of weeks, we can attract new members to our team and introduce them to the other areas of distributed computing, which ultimately, can only be to the benefit of Rosetta and the other projects.


@Dotsch. Thanks for your comments and good luck with your own team, but please don’t stop crunching for Rosetta.
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Message 48284 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 0:57:41 UTC - in response to Message 48237.  

I just wanted to point out that this thread was not deleted, nor even moved to the Cafe. So I would have to say that reflects a degree of tolerance on the part of the project.

I appreciate your comments Mod.Sense. For the record I was crunching here a year before Team England established an 'official' presence in Rosetta@home. I've also been crunching in other projects, some before Team England established an 'official' presence. Participation in Rosetta@home and other BOINC projects is what we advocate in Team England, but we don't give subjective views about which projects should not be crunched.

I started this thread, the stats below are mine, and I feel no shame for having gained them, or for my support in contributing to Team England, or for supporting SETI@home as well as Rosetta@home.


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Message 48287 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 12:49:43 UTC
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FACT: This is Roesetta@home and not a Seti board.
Look at the graphic above.

FACT: BOINC stands for Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing and they state "Open-source software for volunteer computing and desktop grid computing" as well "BOINC is supported by the National Science Foundation"

FACT: The Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC) is a non-commercial middleware system for volunteer computing, originally developed to support the SETI@home project, but intended to be useful for other applications in areas as diverse as mathematics, medicine, molecular biology, climatology, and astrophysics. The intent of BOINC is to make it possible for researchers to tap into the enormous processing power of personal computers around the world.
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

FACT: BOINC is designed to be a free structure for anyone wishing to start a volunteer computing project. Most BOINC projects are nonprofit and rely heavily, if not completely, on volunteers. In essence BOINC is software that can use the unused CPU cycles on a computer, to do scientific computing— what you don't use of your computer, it uses. BOINC consists of a server system and client software that communicate with each other to distribute, process, and return work units.

Current Project types: Biology, Earth Sciences, Physics and Astronomy, Mathematics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOINC


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Message 48288 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 13:27:18 UTC

Regarding the graphs.

Have them represent what Team England or Seti members are doing FOR Roestta. NOT what they are doing for Seti or whoever. The graphs with the label Seti are upsetting to Rosetta sole crunchers, even if they were as examples for whatever.
That is how this whole flaming session got started as well as with the words Seti in the topic.
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Message 48298 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 16:20:59 UTC - in response to Message 48288.  

Regarding the graphs.

Have them represent what Team England or Seti members are doing FOR Roestta. NOT what they are doing for Seti or whoever. The graphs with the label Seti are upsetting to Rosetta sole crunchers, even if they were as examples for whatever.
That is how this whole flaming session got started as well as with the words Seti in the topic.

Regarding the graphs.

How about if you look at the title of the thread and keep out of it if you're not interested? Team England crunch Rosetta and do exciting things like crunch in other projects as well. Nobody is flaming here. Unless you are trying to start something.


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Message 48317 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 23:10:31 UTC - in response to Message 48298.  

Regarding the graphs.

Have them represent what Team England or Seti members are doing FOR Roestta. NOT what they are doing for Seti or whoever. The graphs with the label Seti are upsetting to Rosetta sole crunchers, even if they were as examples for whatever.
That is how this whole flaming session got started as well as with the words Seti in the topic.

Regarding the graphs.

How about if you look at the title of the thread and keep out of it if you're not interested? Team England crunch Rosetta and do exciting things like crunch in other projects as well. Nobody is flaming here. Unless you are trying to start something.


Does it say team england in this thread? no
Your graph says Team England but is illustrating seti, not appreciated here in Rosetta. why don't you show a graph of how team england is doing with Roestta?
this is a Rosetta board after all.
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Message 48318 - Posted: 3 Nov 2007, 23:41:46 UTC
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Does it say team england in this thread?

It does now. Thanks for your advice. Join Team England and we might consider it.




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Message 48322 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 0:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 48318.  

still looks seti to me, i am with team amd, i support the good cpu group
Does it say team england in this thread?

It does now. Thanks for your advice. Join Team England and we might consider it.




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Message 48347 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 10:14:27 UTC - in response to Message 48322.  

I have predominantly Intel myself. Just the one AMD, quite old, 1.1GHz Athlon
still looks seti to me, i am with team amd, i support the good cpu group
Does it say team england in this thread?

It does now. Thanks for your advice. Join Team England and we might consider it.






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Message 48351 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 11:44:51 UTC - in response to Message 48347.  

well i have to save up my acorns to buy a new system. have to see if it can fit in the same box i have now and save some money.
I have predominantly Intel myself. Just the one AMD, quite old, 1.1GHz Athlon
still looks seti to me, i am with team amd, i support the good cpu group
Does it say team england in this thread?

It does now. Thanks for your advice. Join Team England and we might consider it.






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Message 48352 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 13:51:55 UTC

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Could a moderator move this to the Cafe where we have been told team recruiting goes.
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(Else we may as well recruit anywhere on this forum)



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Me AMD and Intel, mixed bag. A-XP's, A64, P-M's, PIIIm, considering wither and X2-AM2 or if I can muster the cash out of the air (or acorns :-s ) A C2D or C2Q depening on how cheap I can get motherboards MSI/Gigabyte seem to do some for ~£45.
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Message 48354 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 17:20:25 UTC

Kept hoping to see this thread fall down on the list, and then it would be a moot point. But, after reviewing the original post, I'm moving to the Cafe. The topic seems more to recruit other teams to the race then to recruit members to the team, but the Cafe is the place for all such team activities.
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Message 48362 - Posted: 4 Nov 2007, 22:36:33 UTC
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The Sideshow has started, our baseline credits are posted. Sorry we couldn't tell you the moment it started, but we were busy with our Sunday roast



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Message 48370 - Posted: 5 Nov 2007, 7:45:51 UTC
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Looks like Team England has two active recruiting threads now. What else can it be with "Team England" in the title?

Doesn't one need to be locked? Or just take the whole thing over to the SETI forum where it belongs.
Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :)



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Message 48374 - Posted: 5 Nov 2007, 14:16:17 UTC

Since I was the one to move this thread to the Cafe, I wasn't going to pounce on locking the thread, assuming (again) that there is little reason to post to it.

The policy is one team recruiting thread per team in the Cafe. And since any further posts by Team England folks will cause me to lock the thread anyway (because they are actively using two such Cafe threads), I'm going to go ahead and lock it now.
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