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Message 43454 - Posted: 9 Jul 2007, 20:48:31 UTC

this page contradicts this FAQ
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Message 43573 - Posted: 12 Jul 2007, 23:26:00 UTC

Hi Greg,

Can you point out the contradiction to me?
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Message 43576 - Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 0:14:51 UTC - in response to Message 43573.  
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Hi Greg,

Can you point out the contradiction to me?


for instance, why is the malaria quote from the disease related research included in the FAQ but for instance the cancer quote is not?

the sentence in the disease related research "....but i thought you might be interested in hearing about some of the disease related work we are doing that you will be contributing to at rosetta at home". the list below this sentence implies that these are diseases that RAH is working on currently in various stages. the FAQ lists only 3 of these and leads me to believe that either the rest are not being worked on or for some other reason are not being included in the FAQ. this also makes me think that the FAQ is not as up to date or is more up to date than the disease page. the information needs to be coordinated, not one thing here and another thing there.

as of yet, i have yet to figure out what RAH is working on at the moment.
there is no clear information given about what disease or protein related to a specific disease we are working on now.

i should also express that it just seems to me that we are crunching stuff to crunch stuff but there is no information in the WU text that tells us what that protein is related to or for that matter anywhere on the messages boards that tells us what is being sent out and what disease or specific part of a protein/gene/disease is being sent out.

hope you understand the points i am trying to make.
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Message 43582 - Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 7:25:00 UTC - in response to Message 43576.  

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as of yet, i have yet to figure out what RAH is working on at the moment.
there is no clear information given about what disease or protein related to a specific disease we are working on now.

i should also express that it just seems to me that we are crunching stuff to crunch stuff but there is no information in the WU text that tells us what that protein is related to or for that matter anywhere on the messages boards that tells us what is being sent out and what disease or specific part of a protein/gene/disease is being sent out.


I agree, there should at least be a sentence of explanation on the screensaver, the current doesn't help at all. There used to be some better explanations.

I see the problem that we don't really know what we're working on, I already tried to ask, push people to post the current goals, with no luck yet.
That's also the reason why I made a suggestion in another thread about a "Status Page", please see this post: [url=https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=3296&nowrap=true#42375]Link[/link]

As I said before, the lack of info about the current projects is the only downside of Rosetta.
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Message 43589 - Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 8:34:56 UTC - in response to Message 43582.  

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as of yet, i have yet to figure out what RAH is working on at the moment.
there is no clear information given about what disease or protein related to a specific disease we are working on now.

i should also express that it just seems to me that we are crunching stuff to crunch stuff but there is no information in the WU text that tells us what that protein is related to or for that matter anywhere on the messages boards that tells us what is being sent out and what disease or specific part of a protein/gene/disease is being sent out.


I agree, there should at least be a sentence of explanation on the screensaver, the current doesn't help at all. There used to be some better explanations.

I see the problem that we don't really know what we're working on, I already tried to ask, push people to post the current goals, with no luck yet.
That's also the reason why I made a suggestion in another thread about a "Status Page", please see this post: Link

As I said before, the lack of info about the current projects is the only downside of Rosetta.


exactly, the scientific team knows what they are working on, but us end users have absolutely no information on whats being done. this is a big draw back to RAH.
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Message 43780 - Posted: 16 Jul 2007, 22:18:20 UTC

Aah, I see the point you are making. I'll leave it to the people who are maintaining this site to update teh FAQs etc, but what I can tell you myself is that the Disease related research page, at least as it pertains to work being done within the lab, is not out of date; ie we are still working on cancer related projects, as described. The FAQ was put together by a user who was quoting the disease related research page, and he chose not to quote the whole page.

Not all the projects listed on the disease related research project are actively using RaH resources at any given time. For example, I am working on the Prostate Cancer project at the moment, and I'm happy to report I'm not using any computational resources at all as I have now progressed to the experimental part of this project.

I know this doesn't address your concern about wanting to know how each work unit relates to disease, but I hope at least it helps temporarily.

Cheers,
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Message 43790 - Posted: 17 Jul 2007, 6:18:46 UTC

greg_be I think you are right it's out of date, it appears on Monday, 12 December 2005, 8:28:58 AM according to my files (Rosetta help3.sxw)and the "disease related research page" was Last Modified: 16 Jun 2006 20:31:30 UTC.

I don't think anything was left out at the time, but then it was a while ago :?

Vanita my dad died of prostate cancer, coincidentally as I was helping write some of the FAQ, so I'm wishing you the best of luck. A truly horrible disease that the world can do without.
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Message 43794 - Posted: 17 Jul 2007, 7:40:54 UTC - in response to Message 43790.  

You can add me to the cancer families list as well. My mother in law died from a long fight including traditional and experimental treatment for abdominal cancer that was particularly aggressive. It spread to her hip in the last couple of years of her life. That's why I am into the cancer side of things. But the other diseases of focus are good to work on to. I am sure everyone has their own cause.

greg_be I think you are right it's out of date, it appears on Monday, 12 December 2005, 8:28:58 AM according to my files (Rosetta help3.sxw)and the "disease related research page" was Last Modified: 16 Jun 2006 20:31:30 UTC.

I don't think anything was left out at the time, but then it was a while ago :?

Vanita my dad died of prostate cancer, coincidentally as I was helping write some of the FAQ, so I'm wishing you the best of luck. A truly horrible disease that the world can do without.


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Message 43895 - Posted: 19 Jul 2007, 13:22:04 UTC - in response to Message 43794.  

My reason for crunching is to fight ALL disease not only cancer and not excluding age.

My mum died of Ovarian cancer on 29 Aug 2006. The doctor who wrongly diagnosed her for quite a while said it was well known as the SILENT killer, I replied, it was only silent because no one was LISTENING.

Cancer is only one thing stopping the human race from reaching it's potential, there are thousands of others including, ignorance, bigatory, apathy and yes all those thousands of diseases. Crunch on and lets win the war.
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Message 43915 - Posted: 19 Jul 2007, 17:45:26 UTC

a cancer story.............. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770717027
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Message 43923 - Posted: 19 Jul 2007, 18:46:24 UTC - in response to Message 43915.  
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thanks guy, but your off topic here and you have posted off topic in other forums.
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We're sorry!

We're sorry, the article you've attempted to reach is not available, is temporarily unavailable, has moved or is no longer available on the site.

a cancer story.............. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770717027


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Message 44057 - Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 1:51:28 UTC

I understand your point about the FAQ. I think the best source for information about what the scientists are doing is in Baker's Journal here in the Science forum.

The science they are doing IS important and I think they have the potential to do a "better" job than FAH, but they don't have as much computing power.

I presently find disease research more inspiring than astronomical or physics research.
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Message 44060 - Posted: 22 Jul 2007, 8:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 44057.  

This project has probably grown so fast they don't have the staff or the money allocated yet to get someone to do updates on here FT. But it would be nice to get more up to date information than once every x months about the progress of things and where we are headed. This thread was about the mismatch of information and that the FAQ was not as up to date as its counter part.

I understand your point about the FAQ. I think the best source for information about what the scientists are doing is in Baker's Journal here in the Science forum.

The science they are doing IS important and I think they have the potential to do a "better" job than FAH, but they don't have as much computing power.

I presently find disease research more inspiring than astronomical or physics research.


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