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Message 29546 - Posted: 17 Oct 2006, 23:41:42 UTC

I was absolutely thrilled to see that my team has helped the Rosetta@home project enough to be chosen as the predictor of the day. I was hoping for this for a few months now as our output has gradually increased. This is very exciting!

I am just wondering.. how does the predictor of the day relate to the top predictions, as seen on https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_top_predictions.php?

Also, where can I see the actual structure which has the top prediction? It is no longer listed on https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rah_results.php?TeamID=1291.

Thanks and best wishes to all!
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Message 29551 - Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 2:54:16 UTC

It's a random selection of the users that have profiles (or some such thing). The point is - it's random.
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Message 29554 - Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 3:58:53 UTC

Correction, the "User of the day" is random. The predictor of the day comes out as they complete analysis of the submitted results and are able to publish those analysis (in the case of CASP results, I believe there were restrictions on what they could publish so far as energy levels etc.)

The predictor of the day crunched the model that shows the most promise for correctly predicting the native structure. Dr. Baker referred to it as being like a lottery. The more tickets you hold when the call the numbers, the more likely you win. In the case of Rosetta, "tickets" correspond to the number of models you crunched for a given batch of tasks.

So far as I know, you can only view you own structures. And even that only if you still have the .out file from the task. See the details here.
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Message 29556 - Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 4:08:37 UTC - in response to Message 29546.  

I was absolutely thrilled to see that my team has helped the Rosetta@home project enough to be chosen as the predictor of the day. I was hoping for this for a few months now as our output has gradually increased. This is very exciting!

I am just wondering.. how does the predictor of the day relate to the top predictions, as seen on https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_top_predictions.php?

Also, where can I see the actual structure which has the top prediction? It is no longer listed on https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rah_results.php?TeamID=1291.

Thanks and best wishes to all!


Thanks and congratulations!! As Feet1st explained, you found the lowest energy structure for the indicated CASP7 work unit for CASP target 354. During CASP we experimented with a number of different strategies for each target; the different work units for the same target protein represent the different strategies. The participants acknowledged in the "top predictions" section are the people who found the lowest energy structures over all the different strategies (I can't tell whether your model was one of these because we haven't put the data together yet).

Your result, like those of the other "top predictors" was important because it gave us important feedback on the strategy being tested. target 354 I think was one where the predictions are really good--your model may have been one of the top 5 models submitted!
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Message 29581 - Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 14:24:44 UTC - in response to Message 29554.  

Correction, the "User of the day" is random. The predictor of the day comes out as they complete analysis of the submitted results and are able to publish those analysis (in the case of CASP results, I believe there were restrictions on what they could publish so far as energy levels etc.)



Sorry! My bad.

Good job - that one is really worth something.

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Message 29585 - Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 15:19:50 UTC - in response to Message 29546.  

Does anyone have a time frame on how long it will take to find out how close our simulation is to the real protein? Will we have to wait until CASP 7 to find out? We are very excited to know, so that we can have a celebration party! ;) We recently passed 1 million results which was wonderful and now having a top prediction is like icing on the cake!

Keep folding :)
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Message 29609 - Posted: 19 Oct 2006, 1:00:40 UTC

We're finding out how close we were to the native structure as the native structures are released to the public; but by Nov 26-30th, they'll all be released. That's the date of the CASP7 conference.

http://predictioncenter.org/casp7/

And it says that near Halloween, Dr. David Baker may get an invitation to speak to a group that won't require bio-chem translators - about the prediction techniques we've been using.
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Message 29613 - Posted: 19 Oct 2006, 1:54:31 UTC
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Thank you to everyone who has replied!

Here is some more data on the protein:

http://predictioncenter.org/casp7/targets/templates/t0354.doc.html
http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/explore.do?structureId=2id1
http://spine.nesg.org:7000/gallery/jsp/ShowStructure.jsp?pdb_id=2id1
http://spine.nesg.org:7000/gallery/reports/CvR5_2id1/reports/fsvr/CvR5.html
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Message 29676 - Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 5:33:36 UTC - in response to Message 29554.  
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Correction, the "User of the day" is random. The predictor of the day comes out as ...


When you read someone's profile you get a chance to say "I like this profile"

I always assumed this made some difference to that person's chances of being user of the day. If not, any idea what BOINC does with the feedback?

Congrats to milw0rm on a superb result. You and your team are putting in a lot of effort for Rosetta and it is nice that that has paid off for you now. And even bigger congrats are due to your team for achieving a megecredit already - in the long run that makes more difference to the project than who gets the best prediction.

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Message 35481 - Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 10:16:14 UTC

A related question: Has there ever been a "Predictor of the day" who wasn't a member of any team? From a quick glance at the archive, it looks like all 'predictor of the day's have been members of a team - am I the only person who crunches independently?

Of course, the 'predictor of the day's are more likely to be big-hitters, who perhaps are also more likely to be team members than independents.


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Message 35531 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 3:28:48 UTC - in response to Message 35481.  
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That is awesome Dude!

let's crunch more.
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Message 35532 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 3:28:48 UTC - in response to Message 35481.  

That is awesome Dude!

let's crunch more.
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