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Message 27969 - Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 14:17:41 UTC

the capacity for private messages.

That way , once two or more people get into a nasty case of the flames or insults the moderator can basically say:

Take this discussion to private messaging - First Warning


If the warned keep their fight in the public area of the boards then they could be hit with

Take this discussion to private messaging - Second Warning appearing as substitute of all the offending dialogue that followed the first warning. That way the community will now it is a second offense by the guilty people


If the warned parties keep their nastiness public, then their messages would be substituted with



Take this discussion to private messaging - Third warning and the offenders would be banned for a week from posting in all boards : All their messages post the third warning will be edited


The fourth violation will be rewarded with a permanent ban.

This is to be used when there is a war :that is more than a person involved. Although it could be adapted to situations like one that happened yesterday with a person posting fake insulting URL links.

For this to work :

1- PM capability should be added to the board.
2- Non anonymous moderators must apply the warning ( To prevent bias)
3- In the case where the offender is a moderator , the moderator could be warned by anyone who will dd to the warning the fact that the moderator post was considered offensive and reported as such and then his offending post be reported via X. The moderating corps or the administration would have 24 hours at most to evaluate the complaint against the moderator and report in public their determination of disciplinary actions against the moderator if any. A moderator receiving more than three X should be suspended for a week; more than 5 Should have his moderating privileges removed for ever.



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Message 27973 - Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 14:33:06 UTC

Yes that would be fine. But there is no private messaging - what now?
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Message 28000 - Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 15:01:09 UTC
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Please! USE MINE! Just enter a nickname and you're in the discussion. ...and don't wait for a moderator to tell you to go. Post a UTC time that you'll be there to share a few words.

...for this to work, you need a browser, and internet connection and typing ability. No moderator, no project server change, no committee to agree, no warnings, no process... go use it.
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Message 28005 - Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 15:06:09 UTC - in response to Message 27973.  

Yes that would be fine. But there is no private messaging - what now?



So let's agree and ask the developers to install one.
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Message 28014 - Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 15:19:05 UTC - in response to Message 28005.  

Yes that would be fine. But there is no private messaging - what now?



So let's agree and ask the developers to install one.


We agree! :-) but there is no easy way to install one. For the boinc MB it does not yet exist and switching to another forum software is a) much work for the devs b) requires every poster to reregister and c) requires a lot of work to migrate some important info like the FAQ and interesting threads.
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Message 28016 - Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 15:22:01 UTC - in response to Message 28014.  

Yes that would be fine. But there is no private messaging - what now?



So let's agree and ask the developers to install one.


We agree! :-) but there is no easy way to install one. For the boinc MB it does not yet exist and switching to another forum software is a) much work for the devs b) requires every poster to reregister and c) requires a lot of work to migrate some important info like the FAQ and interesting threads.


Good things are not easy.
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Message 28158 - Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 7:48:16 UTC
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Why do they need to re-register, a forum is just software, software can be changed, member database is already there ? Just take it out of the existing member data base (if Find-a-Drug could integrate phpBB to it's client database, then I am sure a larger BOINC community could do similar)
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Message 28165 - Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 10:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 28158.  

Why do they need to re-register, a forum is just software, software can be changed, member database is already there ? Just take it out of the existing member data base (if Find-a-Drug could integrate phpBB to it's client database, then I am sure a larger BOINC community could do similar)



Ah Fluffy: that is a great question.
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Message 28166 - Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 12:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 28165.  
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Why do they need to re-register, a forum is just software, software can be changed, member database is already there ? Just take it out of the existing member data base (if Find-a-Drug could integrate phpBB to it's client database, then I am sure a larger BOINC community could do similar)



Ah Fluffy: that is a great question.

All BOINC projects with a non-BOINC board have a distinct registration for the boards, and it's even not necessary to have an account for that project at all to register there: CPDN (they have both), SIMAP, Spinhenge, WCG and Folding. Here is no connection between the accounts and the board identity.

Not all BOINCy boards have the same layout (Einstein has just a single page, not Q&A <> Messages, some have more or less main sub-boards), some have a slightly modded functionality (Pirates and BOINCstats/BAM!), but the core seems to be the same.

Most projects probably don't want to mess with anything like boards that much, and the functionality for them is quite sufficient. Most community needs are sufficiently dealt with on either their team boards or some foreign language boinc-boards without special team connection.

Some communities are more demanding, especially in times of controversial discussions about project decisions. Controversial off-project discussion can always be banned asap, if it's disturbing, but this credit discussion belongs here, and always belonged here.

My 2 cent:
I don't think it should be a mayor task (and money drain) to deal with board programming and fine tuning. They should do their science, communicate about that, and try to weed out errors in the application/server behaviour if something new is introduced.

I don't particulary like the unconnected boards, I want the project stuff in one place. If an improvement could be done easy by BOINC, under a GNU licence, it's fine, anything that requires extra licensing should be avoided (at least as the standard).

Some more features will be fine, like preview and post movement, but all in all I don't have that much complaints.
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Message 28175 - Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 14:58:44 UTC - in response to Message 28166.  

Saenger, that does not mean they have to do it that way ;-)
I guess it would probably take one of the BB makers to create the integration (or a board hacker to put the hack up at various boards).
From my travels around the projects it is interesting to note the the boards using a non-boinc supplied board seems to be more interested in that part of it. I certainly wouldn't expect a none boinc gnu licenseable board to be official, I actually wouldn't expect any none boinc controlled board to be official. Though it would be nice if say phpBB, SMC, Invision or even the more commercial vBB (doesn't cost that much btw, especially for a project of this size) to give a second choice (after all it would be advertising for them ;-) .... Anyone have any links with these people?

As for the none standard layout I know :-) still waiting for some of the suggestions applied over at Ralph to get moved over here <insert whistling smilie here>
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