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Message 26009 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 18:23:18 UTC
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I have been running a laptop for Rosetta with Windows 2000. I just updated to Windows XP and I expected that my computers list would have this as a new computer entry since something very fundamental had changed.

However, the same computer entry is there but with the OS changed. It has all the old work units done unde 2000 still listed under it.

Is that normal? I thought a new computer entry would be made.

It's the computer with "jim" in the title in my computer list.
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Message 26016 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 18:58:20 UTC - in response to Message 26009.  

I have been running a laptop for Rosetta with Windows 2000. I just updated to Windows XP and I expected that my computers list would have this as a new computer entry since something very fundamental had changed.

However, the same computer entry is there but with the OS changed. It has all the old work units done unde 2000 still listed under it.

Is that normal? I thought a new computer entry would be made.

It's the computer with "jim" in the title in my computer list.


Matt,
If you change OS, CPU, ..... you cannot merge both computers. The config must be exactly the same.
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Message 26017 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 18:59:35 UTC

I appreciate the reply but I must not have been clear.

I upgraded to XP from 2000. Instead of creating a new computer in my computer list the 2000 entry was simply replaced with the XP, keeping all of the old stats associated to the 2000 computer.
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Message 26025 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:07:39 UTC

The CPID (I think) is associated with a specific config, OS, cpu, ... If you change one part of the config it is considered as another computer.
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Message 26026 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 26025.  

The CPID (I think) is associated with a specific config, OS, cpu, ... If you change one part of the config it is considered as another computer.



But that's the issue!!!! :)

I DID change the OS but it is NOT considered a new computer in my account. That's what is weird, and that's why I'm bringing it up here :)
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Message 26027 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:09:55 UTC
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Oops, read too fast.... OK. Interesting question. well, mmmmmhhh, ....

I should go back to my stamps collection ;-)
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Message 26028 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 26027.  

Oops, read too fast.... OK. Interesting question. well, mmmmmhhh, ....



This happened when I upgraded RAM in another computer. Maybe newer versions of BOINC allow for changes without listing the upgraded computer as a new computer?
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Message 26029 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:14:13 UTC

i had the same happen when i changed the overlclocking on this machine a couple of times (bios recogniced it as a different cpu) and still have the same host-id i got when i first attached this host, never changed the os though.
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Message 26033 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:25:26 UTC - in response to Message 26027.  

Oops, read too fast.... OK. Interesting question. well, mmmmmhhh, ....

I should go back to my stamps collection ;-)


A colleague of mine takes a class of college students to Belgium every summer. He says its a beautiful country.
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Message 26036 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:29:43 UTC - in response to Message 26017.  

I appreciate the reply but I must not have been clear.

I upgraded to XP from 2000. Instead of creating a new computer in my computer list the 2000 entry was simply replaced with the XP, keeping all of the old stats associated to the 2000 computer.


Interesting observation but it seems right to me - it is still the same computer isn't it?
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Message 26037 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:33:09 UTC - in response to Message 26033.  
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Oops, read too fast.... OK. Interesting question. well, mmmmmhhh, ....

I should go back to my stamps collection ;-)


A colleague of mine takes a class of college students to Belgium every summer. He says its a beautiful country.


Quite nice. But quite small. But nice. But small. ;-)
We have the higher population/kmĀ² in the world. That's not very relaxing.
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Message 26038 - Posted: 4 Sep 2006, 19:37:45 UTC
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I have changed OS and processors on several computers and they merge as long as I use the same name for the computers. One odd thing is that it wouldn't merge DELLA1 and della1, yet it merged della1 and della2 once. Look at my computer names. At various times, computer fad has been FAD without a problem.

The computer name can be changed in the System Properties | Computer Name Changes.
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Message 26564 - Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 23:16:27 UTC

>> A follow on to these questions. I have a dual CPU AMD motherboard with single core processors on it. If I change the processors from single core to dual core is this considered a new computer? The basic computer and OS will be the same just the CPU's will be different.
If it is considered a different computer can I then merge them? If so how do the stats get worked out. I assume I will get a new computer entry and I won't be able to merge as BOINC will identify the computer as a totally different machine due to the CPU's changing.
Any help appreciated.
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Message 26574 - Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 4:16:55 UTC

Not certain of the answer. I don't think it will be a new "host". But I wanted to point out that you could just try it and see. And if you don't like the result, then back off the change and be back to the host you're happy with.
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Message 26579 - Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 6:27:17 UTC

My x2 3800+ at work was considered a single system (with 2 cores). I'd be surprised if Boinc would want to create a seperate installation ID for two more cores.

To use all 4 cores, in General Preferences, you'll want to change "on multiprocessor systems" to at least 4, though.
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Message 26585 - Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 7:46:06 UTC

>>> Thanks for the replies. I will build it and see (after I buy the chips of course, they cost a fair bit each here in Oz), If it creates a new host well so be it, I might be able to merge it anyway.
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