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Message 24903 - Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 22:50:44 UTC

I run now two very worthwhile projects at the same time with no cpu slow down on my amd2700 stock and my amd 64 3700 overclocked to 2.62 gig.Might others out there be doing the same thing and if not why not? Look forward to your comments. yours truely Ed
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Message 24910 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 0:21:44 UTC

My current time share is: 90 rosetta - 10 SIMAP - 10 WCG.
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Message 24912 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 0:36:49 UTC - in response to Message 24903.  
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I'm giving WCG 15% on my desktop. Laptop, when running, is 100% Rosetta.

I run now two very worthwhile projects at the same time with no cpu slow down on my amd2700 stock and my amd 64 3700 overclocked to 2.62 gig.Might others out there be doing the same thing and if not why not? Look forward to your comments. yours truely Ed

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Message 24917 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 1:26:45 UTC - in response to Message 24903.  

I run now two very worthwhile projects at the same time with no cpu slow down on my amd2700 stock and my amd 64 3700 overclocked to 2.62 gig.Might others out there be doing the same thing and if not why not? Look forward to your comments. yours truely Ed


I've learned that I cannot run multiple projects on any of my linux machines. Sooner or later, progress will just stop. BOINCmgr says the 2 jobs (or more) are still running, but the progress counter stops moving, and the cpu meter shows no activity. I think it happens when trying to switch from one project to the next. A real pisser to check in on the machines and find one or more just sitting there doing nothing for who-knows-how-long. AARGH!

I've never had the problem with my macs, or my one windows machine, or when running a single project per linux machine.

Bottom line, I have to split projects between machines if I don't want to babysit machines hourly.


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Message 24956 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 9:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 24903.  
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I run now two very worthwhile projects at the same time with no cpu slow down on my amd2700 stock and my amd 64 3700 overclocked to 2.62 gig.Might others out there be doing the same thing and if not why not? Look forward to your comments. yours truely Ed


If its under BOINC then they'll time slice. You'll do xxx minute (I think 60mins by default) on one project and then 60mins on the other project. So they are not running 'at the same time'.
Of course if your using Boinc for Rosetta and UD agent for WCG you may well be (I cannot remember how well they share together but you'll be more productive and a lot lighter on resources using the boinc setup only.

By the way which projects at WCG are you running, they have 3 different projects.
HPF-II, which uses the Rosetta software (and I think it uses what we had managed to improve up to March this year)
Cancer, don't know much about this one
HIV, Virtual screening using AutoDock afaik.
?



Why do people not do it..
Well it means you do less work for each project so if you are dedicated to a particular one then you don't do it.
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Message 24984 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 14:03:25 UTC

I,m running Fightaids@Home, which seems to be running as a independent project program that I had downloaded from the world community Grid site.I'ts running in the background along with Rosetta. There does not seem to be a noticable slow down on my processors.If I'm loosing rosetta credits so be it.
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Message 24985 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 14:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 24984.  

I,m running Fightaids@Home, which seems to be running as a independent project program that I had downloaded from the world community Grid site.I'ts running in the background along with Rosetta. There does not seem to be a noticable slow down on my processors.If I'm loosing rosetta credits so be it.


If you ran them both at the same time both will receive 50% of the CPU power thus you will get 50% of the credit you got prior to that. Nevertheless if it doesn't cause any problems it is okay to do so.

Alternatively you coud attach to WCG via BOINC, select Fighaids@home as a project and set Rosetta and FA@H both to 50 ressource share. Thus they would both crunch one after another but for the same time. The credit would be the same as like you are doing it now.
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Message 24989 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 14:49:15 UTC - in response to Message 24984.  

I,m running Fightaids@Home, which seems to be running as a independent project program that I had downloaded from the world community Grid site.I'ts running in the background along with Rosetta. There does not seem to be a noticable slow down on my processors.If I'm loosing rosetta credits so be it.


I would guess your using the UD Agent (the main one for windows there).
I wasn't meaning credit loss. I mean if you ran just FightAids@home part of WCG you would give it 100% crunching.
At the moment your doing half as much work for them (and hence half as much for Rosetta).

To be fair you would be better off attaching to WCG via BOINC, then you use even less resources and do the same amount of work. Also you would proably be slightly more productive as they use the CPU in a better way, i.e. not both at the same time.

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Message 25002 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 16:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 24984.  

I,m running Fightaids@Home, which seems to be running as a independent project program that I had downloaded from the world community Grid site.I'ts running in the background along with Rosetta. There does not seem to be a noticable slow down on my processors.If I'm loosing rosetta credits so be it.

This is quite likely the trouble. UD and BOINC probably run the science application at slightly different proirity levels. If UD is running at a slightly higher priority level, then it will get ALL of the spare CPU time. A suggestion is to attach to WCG through BOINC and select FA@H as the project you wish to run. This will allow BOINC to do the control. To do this, you will have to detach from the UD version of FA@H.


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