A Challenge:
To anyone who feels that what XS has done in using the optimised files has so tainted the credit system and to make the standings meaningless I propose this:
You gentlemen who have been vocal against us form a small team and pool your PC's. I will use the 4 at my home.
We run the new credit system for 30 days.
At the end the loser stops posting here.
Sorry Ethan, cookies is meaningless as a prize.
Lets have my suggestion instead, something to shoot for that both sides want.
This is a simple back up your opinions with your equipment.
Thanks for reading,
Movieman

I can't understand You Movieman....
So, for me using stock clients I wonder what 4 monstercrunchers You have at home to beat my current RAC.....

(..)

From Morphy:

A Challenge:
To anyone who feels that what XS has done in using the optimised files has so tainted the credit system and to make the standings meaningless I propose this:
You gentlemen who have been vocal against us form a small team and pool your PC's. I will use the 4 at my home.
We run the new credit system for 30 days.
At the end the loser stops posting here.
Sorry Ethan, cookies is meaningless as a prize.
Lets have my suggestion instead, something to shoot for that both sides want.
This is a simple back up your opinions with your equipment.
Thanks for reading,
Movieman

I can't understand You Movieman....
So, for me using stock clients I wonder what 4 monstercrunchers You have at home to beat my current RAC.....

(..)

A Challenge:
To anyone who feels that what XS has done in using the optimised files has so tainted the credit system and to make the standings meaningless I propose this:
You gentlemen who have been vocal against us form a small team and pool your PC's. I will use the 4 at my home.
We run the new credit system for 30 days.
At the end the loser stops posting here.
Sorry Ethan, cookies is meaningless as a prize.
Lets have my suggestion instead, something to shoot for that both sides want.
This is a simple back up your opinions with your equipment.
Thanks for reading,
Movieman

I can't understand You Movieman....
So, for me using stock clients I wonder what 4 monstercrunchers You have at home to beat my current RAC.....
(snip)edited to keep Ethan's blood pressure down!

A Challenge:
To anyone who feels that what XS has done in using the optimised files has so tainted the credit system and to make the standings meaningless I propose this:
You gentlemen who have been vocal against us form a small team and pool your PC's. I will use the 4 at my home.
We run the new credit system for 30 days.
At the end the loser stops posting here.
Sorry Ethan, cookies is meaningless as a prize.
Lets have my suggestion instead, something to shoot for that both sides want.
This is a simple back up your opinions with your equipment.
Thanks for reading,
Movieman

I can't understand You Movieman....
So, for me using stock clients I wonder what 4 monstercrunchers You have at home to beat my current RAC.....
(snip)edited to keep Ethan's blood pressure down!

At the moment I have the following equipment:
DX3600
DX2400
Dothan based desktop system( may change due to a pending sale)
Dual-dualcore opteron system..Only one cpu.
None overclocked at all besides the dothan system
And the reason for all this sh*t as you call it is the asine benchmark system in BOINC tha was so lopsided towards AMD that anyone running an Intel based system was at a 40-60% disadvantage.
I don't remember you being one of the opposition on this issue and I thought Teddies was already gone from Rosetta?
BTW: My machines are visable, your's are not.
Movieman

Optimized clients are not relevant, Movieman stated the new credit system would be used. Let's not rehash how or why the optimized app came to be.

Optimized clients are not relevant, Movieman stated the new credit system would be used. Let's not rehash how or why the optimized app came to be.

Yeah the issue is the name the team that will face Dave will be called . Can I propose the name ? :)

Optimized clients are not relevant, Movieman stated the new credit system would be used. Let's not rehash how or why the optimized app came to be.

Optimized clients are not relevant, Movieman stated the new credit system would be used. Let's not rehash how or why the optimized app came to be.

Now I think You are overreacting Ethan....
I didn't use any offending words.

Movieman, I have no probs with unhiding my crunchers. I did hide them because there are a lot of "dead" crunchers listed. At home I do TSC and at work I have 9 Sempron 2800+ crunching Rosetta under LTSP.

Optimized clients are not relevant, Movieman stated the new credit system would be used. Let's not rehash how or why the optimized app came to be.

Yeah the issue is the name the team that will face Dave will be called . Can I propose the name ? :)

Jose my friend, lets keep this civil..ok?
Thanks!

I take it that all means you are staying here at Rosetta now Movieman and Jose ?

Optimized clients are not relevant, Movieman stated the new credit system would be used. Let's not rehash how or why the optimized app came to be.

Now I think You are overreacting Ethan....
I didn't use any offending words.

Movieman, I have no probs with unhiding my crunchers. I did hide them because there are a lot of "dead" crunchers listed. At home I do TSC and at work I have 9 Sempron 2800+ crunching Rosetta under LTSP.

I'll toss my 4 up against that bunch..no issue, but you weren't who I was expecting to see reply to this. I have no issues with the guys from Teddies, just the opposite. We have a decent relationship.
So? we have 9 sempron2800's against my 4??

Optimized clients are not relevant, Movieman stated the new credit system would be used. Let's not rehash how or why the optimized app came to be.

Now I think You are overreacting Ethan....
I didn't use any offending words.

Movieman, I have no probs with unhiding my crunchers. I did hide them because there are a lot of "dead" crunchers listed. At home I do TSC and at work I have 9 Sempron 2800+ crunching Rosetta under LTSP.

I'll toss my 4 up against that bunch..no issue, but you weren't who I was expecting to see reply to this. I have no issues with the guys from Teddies, just the opposite. We have a decent relationship.
So? we have 9 sempron2800's against my 4??

I will toss in 4 - 2 Conroes, 2 Pent D 950. If we wait a week before the race, I will only toss in 3, 2 Conroes, and 1 Kentsfield

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Against me? or with me?<BG>
I can see a problem developing. My challenge was to the "vocal" group here that campaigned against the optimised files and used the "C" word in relation ot XS.
The point was to show that I as one person was producing more than the entire group of them.Orginally I named these people but was asked by Ethan not to so the issue is being clouded.
Something else that needs to be said here: WE have a problem with children playing games with the + and - boxes below each post in an effort to elininate posts from the forum. That's dirty pool gentlemen and if it isn't stopped I will bring 200 people here in a heartbeat and destroy this voting system before you can blink. That is no threat, that is a statement of fact. If we're going to get down and dirty here, I'm more than willing to do so..
It's your decision on how this is played. Clean or dirty.

Against me? or with me?<BG>
I can see a problem developing. My challenge was to the "vocal" group here that campaigned against the optimised files and used the "C" word in relation ot XS.
The point was to show that I as one person was producing more than the entire group of them.Orginally I named these people but was asked by Ethan not to so the issue is being clouded.
Something else that needs to be said here: WE have a problem with children playing games with the + and - boxes below each post in an effort to elininate posts from the forum. That's dirty pool gentlemen and if it isn't stopped I will bring 200 people here in a heartbeat and destroy this voting system before you can blink. That is no threat, that is a statement of fact. If we're going to get down and dirty here, I'm more than willing to do so..
It's your decision on how this is played. Clean or dirty.

Ive been doing some reading over at the rosy boards, and Ive found some very interesting (disturbing) facts.

It would seem that our opposition is far more effective at exploiting the shortcomings of the boinc forum format. Specifically, the ratings feature, which is much like a unseen moderation.

Ive made a total of 13 posts on the rosy boards, most of them civil, germaine and speaking directly to the facts which contradict our opponents and not a one remains. Not one.

Whether or not the truth is on our side, we are losing this battle as it currently stands. Any contradictory post is either getting deleted via this mechanism, or the threads become so flame filled they are hidden. The result is very one-sided, and the "jury" isnt getting the complete picture.

The simple fact is were (including others outside this team) being out BOINC'd by the boincers. Something has to be done about this. The price of failure being this teams reputation, and our viewpoints which are being silently squelched and tarnished simultaneously.

-SS

I wondered what the point was of the ratings system other than to vote what you thought about it. I'm glad you posted this. It shows that a group can eliminate any opposing view just by voting against it enough times in a short timeframe.
Thanks pal!

Responding is only going to make things worse and is pretty futile now. I'm reporting every post I see from the few from now on I have hit the red "X" on 3 of saenger's posts today and I advise all to do the same, they must take notice now...

why don't we just delete every post on their forum :p

[b]"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me[/b]