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Message 25045 - Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 22:20:28 UTC

Keep in mind that there's less credit awarded now because optimized clients don't get what they claim anymore. That can cut awarded credit for those with an optimized client by 50% easily.
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Message 25151 - Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 16:25:55 UTC - in response to Message 25028.  


Ok, so using that rule of thumb(?) then Rosetta's points per day graph implies that their Tflops rate has been generally between ~35 Tflops and 39+ Tflops over the last 60 days. Is that the estimate you consider unreliable? I'm curious. Thanks.


No I didn't say they are unreliable, they are reliable. And as I said in another posts it seems with the old credit system Rosetta had about 37 TFLOPS on average and with the new one about 35. The 2 TFLOPS loss is probably mainly due to the fact that Xtremesystems pulled out (which means the produced about 2 TFLOPS of new credits). Not such an extreme loss, right?


Well, considering they produced about 500,000 of the 3,500,000 credits, that's about a 15% loss, since you're basing TFLOPS on credits (which is non-sense, by the way).


I converted the 500.000 old credits into new one (~160.000) which is a bit under 2 TFLOPS. I agree that the conversion of points in TFLOPS is arbitrarily but that is the formula used in BOINC: Points/100.000 = TFLOPS. In fact nobody knows how much TFLOPS we are really doing but as a first guess it's okay.
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Message 25158 - Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 18:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 25151.  


Ok, so using that rule of thumb(?) then Rosetta's points per day graph implies that their Tflops rate has been generally between ~35 Tflops and 39+ Tflops over the last 60 days. Is that the estimate you consider unreliable? I'm curious. Thanks.


No I didn't say they are unreliable, they are reliable. And as I said in another posts it seems with the old credit system Rosetta had about 37 TFLOPS on average and with the new one about 35. The 2 TFLOPS loss is probably mainly due to the fact that Xtremesystems pulled out (which means the produced about 2 TFLOPS of new credits). Not such an extreme loss, right?


Well, considering they produced about 500,000 of the 3,500,000 credits, that's about a 15% loss, since you're basing TFLOPS on credits (which is non-sense, by the way).


I converted the 500.000 old credits into new one (~160.000) which is a bit under 2 TFLOPS. I agree that the conversion of points in TFLOPS is arbitrarily but that is the formula used in BOINC: Points/100.000 = TFLOPS. In fact nobody knows how much TFLOPS we are really doing but as a first guess it's okay.

since nobody knows how many tflops we put out how can we find out.???..it would be nice to know if its not a big problem ...the flops look the same or lower than 6 months ago with hundreds more signed on to the project....whats up??
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Message 25169 - Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 21:13:11 UTC

On another note, has anyone noticed that the number of new members has been climbing much faster each day for the last several days or so now? I have, and I would guess it has been maybe 30% more than average lately. I know that the Predictor@home effect has been mentioned, but that was ten days ago! Hmmmm. Is this a prolonged Predictor effect, or has something else happened to keep a steady stream of new members coming?

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Message 25174 - Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 21:49:02 UTC

since nobody knows how many tflops we put out how can we find out.???..it would be nice to know if its not a big problem ...the flops look the same or lower than 6 months ago with hundreds more signed on to the project....whats up??

Some of us quit using optimized clients and those who didn't are now being credited with realistic scores. The TFLOPS were being calculated using total credits. For some members, credits were about 3 times normal.
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Message 25189 - Posted: 28 Aug 2006, 0:26:09 UTC

Under the new system, the P4s are getting 1.6-2.0 times what they used to; which was one of the complaints about the old system. So there's multiple effects at work keeping the credit/day about the same.
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Message 25242 - Posted: 28 Aug 2006, 9:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 25158.  


Ok, so using that rule of thumb(?) then Rosetta's points per day graph implies that their Tflops rate has been generally between ~35 Tflops and 39+ Tflops over the last 60 days. Is that the estimate you consider unreliable? I'm curious. Thanks.


No I didn't say they are unreliable, they are reliable. And as I said in another posts it seems with the old credit system Rosetta had about 37 TFLOPS on average and with the new one about 35. The 2 TFLOPS loss is probably mainly due to the fact that Xtremesystems pulled out (which means the produced about 2 TFLOPS of new credits). Not such an extreme loss, right?


Well, considering they produced about 500,000 of the 3,500,000 credits, that's about a 15% loss, since you're basing TFLOPS on credits (which is non-sense, by the way).


I converted the 500.000 old credits into new one (~160.000) which is a bit under 2 TFLOPS. I agree that the conversion of points in TFLOPS is arbitrarily but that is the formula used in BOINC: Points/100.000 = TFLOPS. In fact nobody knows how much TFLOPS we are really doing but as a first guess it's okay.

since nobody knows how many tflops we put out how can we find out.???..it would be nice to know if its not a big problem ...the flops look the same or lower than 6 months ago with hundreds more signed on to the project....whats up??


Only a few hundreds left not worth mentioning and as Gerry pointed out since the introduction of the new credit system more than usual sign up daily. In the long term this project will benefit in terms of computer power from the new credit system.
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Message 26495 - Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 11:26:15 UTC

nice to see the tflops going up
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Message 26612 - Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 16:17:32 UTC

where do we go to request a success rate bar graph,,,,,?????????
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Message 26614 - Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 17:31:41 UTC

The credits chart (credit per day) represents Teraflops if you just divide the number by 100,000.

I think you were asking for WUs completed, but since one user may crunch a WU for only an hour, and another may crunch for 24hrs, the credits is a better measure of project power. 150TFLOPS is the goal!
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Message 26621 - Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 18:41:33 UTC - in response to Message 26495.  

nice to see the tflops going up


Probably temporary- SETI is out of work.

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