why are users going up every day but the tera flops seem to go down

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The number of total users rises, because it doesn't account for those leaving the project. Also up until last monday, Rosetta took part in a protein structure prediction contest that is held every 2 years. A lot of people temporarily suspended other projects to make sure we could get better predictions here. Now that things have normalized again, they will resume their old projects and thus less time is spent crunching for Rosetta.

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Yes, or the Summer heat has caused them to discontinue BOINC for a while.

Many of the host adds on a given day are not crunching 24/7 and so you don't see as great of a TFLOPs increase as you might estimate. We're always looking for ideas on how to bring more people to the project, and addressing concerns people have that are stopping them from running Rosetta.

There are some other ways you might help.

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The number of total users rises, because it doesn't account for those leaving the project. Also up until last monday, Rosetta took part in a protein structure prediction contest that is held every 2 years. A lot of people temporarily suspended other projects to make sure we could get better predictions here. Now that things have normalized again, they will resume their old projects and thus less time is spent crunching for Rosetta.

are these people still with rosetta and just not on line with it or are they disconnected from the project and still being counted???

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I guess most reset the ressource shares to the old values or unpaused the other projects to let them catch up their debits now.

The number of total users rises, because it doesn't account for those leaving the project. Also up until last monday, Rosetta took part in a protein structure prediction contest that is held every 2 years. A lot of people temporarily suspended other projects to make sure we could get better predictions here. Now that things have normalized again, they will resume their old projects and thus less time is spent crunching for Rosetta.

those that left the project need to be taken off the count so its accurate this is science? or smoke and mirrors? can you help tell me where i can suggest this to those in charge of the project...i think it needs an accurate count to stay credible

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Not really. If you delete an inactive account, there's a high risk that this user will never return. Inactive for a while, even for a year or two, does not mean inactive forever.

It would be possible though to show the active users / active hosts count, those that contacted the server within the past month or 3 months or whatever.

Not really. If you delete an inactive account, there's a high risk that this user will never return. Inactive for a while, even for a year or two, does not mean inactive forever.

It would be possible though to show the active users / active hosts count, those that contacted the server within the past month or 3 months or whatever.

right. i dont mean take them off the project after even a year just take them off the count so the numbers are accurate

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Jim I'm not sure what count you are looking where you feel some people should be removed. Boincstats has a chart of number of ACTIVE hosts granted credit within the last month. If they go a month without reporting any results... they will be removed from that count. But there are many many things that make those numbers less then perfect. This is true for any project. No way to guess what users are out there trying to do as they click around.

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Jim I'm not sure what count you are looking where you feel some people should be removed. Boincstats has a chart of number of ACTIVE hosts granted credit within the last month. If they go a month without reporting any results... they will be removed from that count. But there are many many things that make those numbers less then perfect. This is true for any project. No way to guess what users are out there trying to do as they click around.

ok i see now it looks like 76000 hooked up to rosetta but only 35000 using it ....too bad more people dont know about it ive let everyone i know about it .i think an ad in a simple science mag would put up the numbers fast..

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There is a special BOINC installer with a different logo for this magazine, the logo is the star-shaped colorful thing on that page, the name of the installed program is "Seed@Home", not BOINC.

I don't know what is planned there, I just found the installer and tried to figure out what it is related to, so I cannot supply more informations.

The cooperation of CPDN with WWF and BBC brings people to BOINC as well, they start with the CPDN models but most will find out very soon that there is more than that.

The german iX magazine had a 6 page report about LHC, iX is read by a lot of admins so that might bring some bigger farms to BOINC.

There is quite some good PR done I think.

There is a special BOINC installer with a different logo for this magazine, the logo is the star-shaped colorful thing on that page, the name of the installed program is "Seed@Home", not BOINC.

I don't know what is planned there, I just found the installer and tried to figure out what it is related to, so I cannot supply more informations.

The cooperation of CPDN with WWF and BBC brings people to BOINC as well, they start with the CPDN models but most will find out very soon that there is more than that.

The german iX magazine had a 6 page report about LHC, iX is read by a lot of admins so that might bring some bigger farms to BOINC.

There is quite some good PR done I think.

yes but i think an ad in a mag like pop science the ave person would see it and the numbers joining would soar i dont know what something like that would cost but i bet 100s more would see it and sign up

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The average person doesn't really read science magazines though ;)

Also keep in mind that funding probably isn't in massive supply - placing ads can quickly cost a lot of money. I was interested in placing one in a Swiss newspaper some time ago and half a site costs $40,000 - per day.


Although online advertisement might be cheaper... now that I think about it, it may actually be free: Games are starting to create MySpace profiles advertising their product - maybe we could have a Rosetta MySpace site?

Plus some adds there would probably inform a lot of people, who could in turn spread the word. I guess there's no better place to advertise than on social networking sites - no surprise google paid $900m for the rights to do just that ;)

edit: I'll open a thread about advertisement on the number cruncher board - since it's read/posted on by the most people. Plus, this doesn't really fit in a 'work units' thread ;)

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The average person doesn't really read science magazines though ;)

Also keep in mind that funding probably isn't in massive supply - placing ads can quickly cost a lot of money. I was interested in placing one in a Swiss newspaper some time ago and half a site costs $40,000 - per day.


Although online advertisement might be cheaper... now that I think about it, it may actually be free: Games are starting to create MySpace profiles advertising their product - maybe we could have a Rosetta MySpace site?

Plus some adds there would probably inform a lot of people, who could in turn spread the word. I guess there's no better place to advertise than on social networking sites - no surprise google paid $900m for the rights to do just that ;)

edit: I'll open a thread about advertisement on the number cruncher board - since it's read/posted on by the most people. Plus, this doesn't really fit in a 'work units' thread ;)

sounds good

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