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Message 19408 - Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 12:50:32 UTC

Hello. I\'m running Rosetta now on a Linux system (Ubuntu, btw) and the \"show graphics\" option is greyed out. I can\'t get the graphics. Does anyone know about this? Is there a way to get the graphics?

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Message 19411 - Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 13:38:04 UTC

AFAIK, the graphics-display is \"Windows only\".

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Message 19412 - Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 13:41:15 UTC - in response to Message 19411.  

AFAIK, the graphics-display is \"Windows only\".


I know that the \"screen saver\" is, but with other BOINC projects I can get a window that shows the graphics.

I hope that the graphics window is not Windows only. That would really suck. So much so that I\'d quit Rosetta and contribute to another BOINC project that is more interested in supporting Linux.

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Message 19430 - Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 18:40:44 UTC

First of all, welcome to Rosetta!

Well, I know it\'s not a Windows-only thing, because it worked when I was crunching on my Mac. But my Linux (Fedora) box has the button grayed out, as well.

I\'m sure it\'s something they\'re working on (though we\'ll probably have to wait until after the CASP competition). Maybe (and this is just guessing, on my part) the reason they\'re waiting until last with Linux is that a lot of Linux boxes are running without monitors? I know mine is, and I\'m sure a lot of others are, as well.

Unfortunately, one thing about a relatively young project is that it has a lot of different stuff to work on, and there are only 24 hours in a day. Graphics, for better or for worse, are fairly low on the priority list. Still, the contribution a Linux computer makes to the science is just as valid as that of a Windows machine. I\'m guessing that, in a couple of months, we might see graphics on Linux.
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Message 19431 - Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 19:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 19430.  

Hi!

Thanks for the welcome :-D It\'s good to feel welcome. Hmmm... I guess I could wait for a while to see if a Linux version with graphics is in the works.

Cheers,
Daniel.

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Message 19441 - Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 21:32:24 UTC

Rosetta has currently no graphics for the Linux client. :-/
I had asked for it some month ago, but no answer. :-\\

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1071
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Message 19539 - Posted: 30 Jun 2006, 7:37:32 UTC - in response to Message 19441.  

A Linux graphics version is in the works.We finally got some more manpower on our development team. Look for it on ralph in the next month! We\'re still checking
whether the memory requirements might be too high (we seem to have a lot of outstanding users who crunch with Linux boxes with <256Mb Ram).

Rosetta has currently no graphics for the Linux client. :-/
I had asked for it some month ago, but no answer. :-\\

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1071


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Message 19544 - Posted: 30 Jun 2006, 9:00:04 UTC - in response to Message 19539.  

A Linux graphics version is in the works.We finally got some more manpower on our development team. Look for it on ralph in the next month!


Excellent. Graphics are important to motivate people to use Rosetta.


We\'re still checking whether the memory requirements might be too high (we seem to have a lot of outstanding users who crunch with Linux boxes with <256Mb Ram).


But you are not going to make the graphics mandatroy, so what\'s the problem? Anyone who thinks they\'re slow can turn them off. In fact, I wouldn\'t have them on 24/7 (that\'d spend CPU cycles I\'d rather spend getting credits) but I\'d turn them on when I want.

Btw, 256MB of RAM is not bad. My laptop has 384MB and it\'s fine for most things you\'d want to do (using GIMP is painful though, so I use my desktop for that). If you think about it, that\'s how big hard drives used to be. If people run an entire OS on 4MB of RAM, why do you suddenly need 512MB for Rosetta?


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Message 19578 - Posted: 30 Jun 2006, 15:03:02 UTC - in response to Message 19544.  

A Linux graphics version is in the works.We finally got some more manpower on our development team. Look for it on ralph in the next month!


Excellent. Graphics are important to motivate people to use Rosetta.


We\'re still checking whether the memory requirements might be too high (we seem to have a lot of outstanding users who crunch with Linux boxes with <256Mb Ram).


But you are not going to make the graphics mandatroy, so what\'s the problem? Anyone who thinks they\'re slow can turn them off. In fact, I wouldn\'t have them on 24/7 (that\'d spend CPU cycles I\'d rather spend getting credits) but I\'d turn them on when I want.

Btw, 256MB of RAM is not bad. My laptop has 384MB and it\'s fine for most things you\'d want to do (using GIMP is painful though, so I use my desktop for that). If you think about it, that\'s how big hard drives used to be. If people run an entire OS on 4MB of RAM, why do you suddenly need 512MB for Rosetta?


The nature of the work is memory intensive. This is true of almost all of the BOINC science applications. In the case of Rosetta, they have just reduced the memory requirements to 256 from the original 512. This is a significant improvement, but it also means that it is a more serious limitation. The graphics display is not the source of this issue, but it does exacerbate the problem.

While it is possible to run any of the BOINC science applications with less than the recommended memory, you are likely to have more problems than systems that meet or exceed the requirements. Even systems that minimally meet the requirements often have more issues than those that exceed them. Not the least of these issues is increased paging and consequently more wear on the disk drives.


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Message 37860 - Posted: 15 Mar 2007, 18:41:45 UTC - in response to Message 19578.  
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A Linux graphics version is in the works.We finally got some more manpower on our development team. Look for it on ralph in the next month!


I just plugged boinc in and was dissappointed my rosetta graphics don\'t work, the button is greyed out. Any news when or if theres a fix for this?
and who is ralph?

I\'m running Ubuntu edgy eft

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Message 37863 - Posted: 15 Mar 2007, 19:17:44 UTC

I\'d be interested in linux graphics as well. Any news from the dev team?
How could I help with it?

Cheers :)

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Message 37867 - Posted: 15 Mar 2007, 22:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 37860.  
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who is ralph?

...well, I can at least answer that one. Wasn\'t positive if you were serious or not. Here\'s the link:

What is RALPH@home FAQ item

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Message 38081 - Posted: 21 Mar 2007, 12:16:38 UTC - in response to Message 37860.  

A Linux graphics version is in the works.We finally got some more manpower on our development team. Look for it on ralph in the next month!


I just plugged boinc in and was dissappointed my rosetta graphics don\'t work, the button is greyed out. Any news when or if theres a fix for this?
and who is ralph?

I\'m running Ubuntu edgy eft

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I have the same problem. I hope in a solution as soon as possible.

Bye Alessandro

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Message 40867 - Posted: 12 May 2007, 22:16:57 UTC

Any chance you guys spare some time making this happend?
I\'d love to have rosetta as my linux screensaver really...

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Message 43693 - Posted: 15 Jul 2007, 1:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 19539.  

A Linux graphics version is in the works.We finally got some more manpower on our development team. Look for it on ralph in the next month! We\'re still checking
whether the memory requirements might be too high (we seem to have a lot of outstanding users who crunch with Linux boxes with <256Mb Ram).

Rosetta has currently no graphics for the Linux client. :-/
I had asked for it some month ago, but no answer. :-\\

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1071



OK, OK, it\'s been over a year, can we please get an enabled \'show graphics\' ???
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Message 43930 - Posted: 19 Jul 2007, 19:27:34 UTC

It\'s been over a year and a half. I wanted to see those proteins. How else can I convince people that come over about BOINC and want to see AIDS research in action? I\'m leaving the project.
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Message 43946 - Posted: 19 Jul 2007, 21:03:08 UTC - in response to Message 43930.  

It\'s been over a year and a half. I wanted to see those proteins. How else can I convince people that come over about BOINC and want to see AIDS research in action? I\'m leaving the project.


How can anyone blame you for leaving. My post has sat here for 4 days and no action.
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Message 44549 - Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 19:33:34 UTC - in response to Message 43946.  
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It\'s been over a year and a half. I wanted to see those proteins. How else can I convince people that come over about BOINC and want to see AIDS research in action? I\'m leaving the project.


How can anyone blame you for leaving. My post has sat here for 4 days and no action.


Posted in error, deleted.
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Message 45003 - Posted: 15 Aug 2007, 19:18:06 UTC - in response to Message 19408.  

Hello. I\'m running Rosetta now on a Linux system (Ubuntu, btw) and the \"show graphics\" option is greyed out. I can\'t get the graphics. Does anyone know about this? Is there a way to get the graphics?

Cheers,
Daniel.


Well, where are the linux graphics????
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Message 45012 - Posted: 15 Aug 2007, 21:51:29 UTC

/me raises hand

Me too... Using Debian 64 here.... Ram not a problem. (2gb here)
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