Here, I just caught one on Ralph. These two snaps were taken within 10 seconds of each other:

...The words get stretched out lower and longer to the point that it just becomes a straight line.

I'll notify them there is a problem. I have not seen this on the systems here, but I am usually watching the screen saver, not the graphic.

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During the last 2 hours I submitted Boinc, Rosetta and even my computer to every torture I could think off. This included a moment in which the BOINC application, left my computer to be restored via the restore point function.
Not a single step was lost. The Wu was there , working as if nothing had happened.

Could this be a sign of good thinks to come?

Or Have I just re jinxed the computer? "Numero 9" do you know any good computer-performance restoring voodoo spells?

I do not have any errors reported either. However, I still need to go into the Windows task manager and cancel the rosetta task, or the debugger to get control back to my machine. To make these steps to go away, I'm going to set the screen saver to blank, and see where or what that brings.

-Seth

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Wow, that's totally weird. I've never seen that on my Mac.
Does the text ever return to normal?

Here, I just caught one on Ralph. These two snaps were taken within 10 seconds of each other:




The words get stretched out lower and longer to the point that it just becomes a straight line.

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...I do not have any errors reported either. However, I still need to go into the Windows task manager and cancel the rosetta task, or the debugger to get control back to my machine. To make these steps to go away, I'm going to set the screen saver to blank, and see where or what that brings.

-Seth

Seth, Jose

I just looked at Seth's results. I see that last one (first one for 19 May) reported in ok. Jose 's has not reported in yet. Both of you please keep us advised. We may be on to something here.

The thanks for any progress would in large part go to Jose for his refusal to follow very explicit directions from me. Very odd for a compliance officer, but hey, maybe he's a closet Mac guy. Think different.

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Seth, Jose

I just looked at Seth's results. I see that last one (first one for 19 May) reported in OK. Jose 's has not reported in yet. Both of you please keep us advised. We may be on to something here.

The thanks for any progress would in large part go to Jose for his refusal to follow very explicit directions from me. Very odd for a compliance officer, but hey, maybe he's a closet Mac guy. Think different.

Hey Numero 9 ( I wish I had a full name, photo and more information but Numero 9sounds so cool I still would call you Numero Nueve ) I forced the compliance , nothing in my work description (nor in my life) could describe be me as compliant. Hey had I been compliant I would have been dead more than 14 years ago, when the doctors told my loved ones I was going to die in 5 minutes ( obviously I have not) or now when I am being told my pulmonary hypertension, my kidneys, my liver and blood marrow are failing for reasons unknown to the doctors. ( That is why I love voodoo so much: it is cheaper than the regular MDs that cannot find what is happening to my body and it has funnier incantations and rituals )

All I did was following a basic Axiom of the Contrarian Cult: give a person , an animal, a soul, or a machine a choice , it will choose to be inefficient and it will screw up. So with that little click of the mouse I basically forced windows to handle any errors that came up. I know that "assuming windows is smart enough to know what to do" is not the conventional wisdom, but being conventional usually doesn't lead to solutions to problems.

See when it comes to computers I do not belong to any cult, except the "I only know how to start it and turn it off "cult. So I am not into the Mac Vs PC wars. I do not do macs for a very simple reason: most of my Important applications cannot be run on a Mac; macs are expensive vs a PC and their use can freeze out a working brain and prevent it from finding original solutions. (Read solutions that do not start with the sentences "Buy a Mac" or "That wouldn't happen in a Mac" )

See, the old fart ( oops can one say that in this Board?) in me remembers and used slide rulers, punched computer cards, wrote in FORTRAN : goodies some of the people I talk to cannot even think existed ( Remember paper tape as a storage device? ). Progress in the field of computing and computers was not based on a Mac, and it will never be. For the record: I do believe that Word Perfect for DOS is still the best piece of software ever written. (Okies start flaming me ) ( Standing down from the soap box).

Hey, if there is something that attracts me to Rosetta is its contrarian view of science and life: people willing to share resources, non traditional views to solutions, scientists treating non-scientists as partners, people from all kinds of life-backgrounds and experiences joining on a project, serious researchers and experts taking time to solve the problems of a newbie like me, and to boot it all a Board Moderator with a sense of humour... No wonder I am addicted.

Now if someone could show me how to get the CPU to grant more percentage to BOINC, I would be totally happy At 19 % , Rosetta is slooooooooooow so that is why I have not been able to report on that unit. I can tell you I processed a RALPH UNIT, and am processing another. I preempted the Rosetta unit, a new Rosetta unit was downloaded. Lets see now how BOINC deals with the transfer from RALPH to Rosetta.
Will it go back to Rosetta? If it goes back to Rosetta will it go to the preempted Wu or to the new one? Will the preempted unit continue without error?

AHHHHH the saga continues and it is more exciting than any mistery novel!!! Will Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise play my character on the movie ? :) :P

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Wow, that's totally weird. I've never seen that on my Mac.
Does the text ever return to normal?

Here, I just caught one on Ralph. These two snaps were taken within 10 seconds of each other:

The words get stretched out lower and longer to the point that it just becomes a straight line.

No. Not until the next model is processed.

OK...
I went into the Task Manager and changed the priorities of both Rosetta and RALPH to High. I am going to be out of my house for a while ( About 2 hours) Lets see what happens when I return.
To the XtremeSystems team member that e-mailed me that suggestion and who reminded me there is a reason why the mouse has a right button and a left button , TY. :)

Latter Edit: Before I called the taxi, I came back and had a last look at the Boinc Manager and I think we have progress to report.

1- The Second RALPH Unit went the computational error way. It seems windows did try to debug so the error message is the nice "ARGH to Child" type.
2- The Rosetta Unit that was preempted, reported. THE WATCHDOG FUNCTIONED WORKED AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO!!!!!!!!! It detected a unit that was restarted and kept in memory many times without progress, it terminated the Wu and reported the 5 decoys produced and it granted the credit ( a puny 11 credits but credit outright, NO COMPUTATIONAL ERRORS!!!!!!)

So it seems that I am on my way to computation happiness without having to buy a mac. LOL LOL LOL. Watch me jinx my computer LOL LOL.

Okies, the taxi driver is not a patient guy, See you in about 2 hours.

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This and no other is the root from which a Tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
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... ( Remember paper tape as a storage device? ). ...

Unfortunately, I do remember paper tape, hardcopy terminals, line printers, Atair 8800's Wang, Primeos, IDOS, CPM and a lot of other stuff. I also remember programming from a switch panel in ASM. All of that is why I like the Mac. Like you I can use other stuff too, but for me the computer is not the end, it is the means to an end. I WANT PLUG AND PLAY.

Will it go back to Rosetta? If it goes back to Rosetta will it go to the preempted Wu or to the new one? Will the preempted unit continue without error?

AHHHHH the saga continues and it is more exciting than any mistery novel!!! Will Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise play my character on the movie ? :) :P

After we get this thing running, we can start to make it use the rest of the machine. Something is taking cycles away from the CPU to do something else. We shall find out what that is.

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Wow, that's totally weird. I've never seen that on my Mac.
Does the text ever return to normal?

Here, I just caught one on Ralph. These two snaps were taken within 10 seconds of each other:

The words get stretched out lower and longer to the point that it just becomes a straight line.

I also saw this on both my machines but it seems harmless. As more points are plotted on the Accepted Energy graph, that Accepted Energy text in the Low Energy box gets stretched out until it disappears.

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Every time Rosetta finishes a project, I get the error message "5/19/2006 7:15:17 AM|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result t283_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom004__515_13582_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))". And there is no credit given for the work done. How do I fix this problem?

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5/19/2006 9:32:30 AM|rosetta@home|Resuming result TEST_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003_1fna__503_55286_0 using rosetta version 516

5/19/2006 9:50:37 AM|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result TEST_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003_1fna__503_55286_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))

Arrrg this happens about every other day or about every other work unit

http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-3815.jpg

...I do not have any errors reported either. However, I still need to go into the Windows task manager and cancel the rosetta task, or the debugger to get control back to my machine. To make these steps to go away, I'm going to set the screen saver to blank, and see where or what that brings.

-Seth

Seth, Jose

I just looked at Seth's results. I see that last one (first one for 19 May) reported in ok. Jose 's has not reported in yet. Both of you please keep us advised. We may be on to something here.

The thanks for any progress would in large part go to Jose for his refusal to follow very explicit directions from me. Very odd for a compliance officer, but hey, maybe he's a closet Mac guy. Think different.

I've got no errors.
I am also not using the BOINC screen saver.
I can see the rosetta graphics in the BOINC 'Tasks' tab.
It's too bad for me to not see the screen savers, but that's a small consolation considering I'm helping to find cures for disease, intelligent life, and pulsars in the universe.
-Seth

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When viewing the graphics rosetta.exe errors out.. Its happens random sometimes after several hours and sometimes in few secs of starting the graphics.

5/19/2006 11:25:46 AM|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result t283_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003__515_10854_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 5/19/2006
Time: 11:25:41 AM
User: N/A
Computer: NEW-02GCGES16U9
Description:
Faulting application rosetta_5.16_windows_intelx86.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module rosetta_5.16_windows_intelx86.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x0057104e.

This is the 4th time it errored in one day looking at the graphics.

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Here, I just caught one on Ralph. These two snaps were taken within 10 seconds of each other:
The words get stretched out lower and longer to the point that it just becomes a straight line.

Thanks Feet1st, I tried to describe it in my earlier post in this thread:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1619#16552

But "one picture is worth 1000 words".

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crossworks -- this might be VERY important. I think I saw something
similar the one time my Windows laptop crashed -- a lot of opening and
closing graphics caused the same error. Can I possibly ask you to
attach your computer to Ralph for say ~50% of the time? We are
seeing fewer and fewer errors over there, and it's been hard for
us to solve this 0xc00000d error. Your crashes may give us
the stderr error reports we need.

When viewing the graphics rosetta.exe errors out.. Its happens random sometimes after several hours and sometimes in few secs of starting the graphics.

5/19/2006 11:25:46 AM|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result t283_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003__515_10854_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 5/19/2006
Time: 11:25:41 AM
User: N/A
Computer: NEW-02GCGES16U9
Description:
Faulting application rosetta_5.16_windows_intelx86.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module rosetta_5.16_windows_intelx86.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x0057104e.

This is the 4th time it errored in one day looking at the graphics.

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After we get this thing running, we can start to make it use the rest of the machine. Something is taking cycles away from the CPU to do something else. We shall find out what that is.

If we could get Jose to run HiJackThis! and post the HiJackThis!log file (in another thread, since they're usually rather long), it'll show everything that is being loaded automatically by windows.

And if he also pulls up taskmanager (Ctrl-Alt-Del and select TaskManager if using Win2k appearance), clicks on the "processes" and lists all of the lines that have 5% or more of the cpu - we'll be able to identify what's sapping his cpu performance.

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Attached to ralph.

crossworks -- this might be VERY important. I think I saw something
similar the one time my Windows laptop crashed -- a lot of opening and
closing graphics caused the same error. Can I possibly ask you to
attach your computer to Ralph for say ~50% of the time? We are
seeing fewer and fewer errors over there, and it's been hard for
us to solve this 0xc00000d error. Your crashes may give us
the stderr error reports we need.

When viewing the graphics rosetta.exe errors out.. Its happens random sometimes after several hours and sometimes in few secs of starting the graphics.

5/19/2006 11:25:46 AM|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result t283_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003__515_10854_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 5/19/2006
Time: 11:25:41 AM
User: N/A
Computer: NEW-02GCGES16U9
Description:
Faulting application rosetta_5.16_windows_intelx86.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module rosetta_5.16_windows_intelx86.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x0057104e.

This is the 4th time it errored in one day looking at the graphics.

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