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Message 16514 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 4:14:45 UTC

And,I get errors several times...
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?userid=2753
Testing my memory,but no error occurs.

another request:
My work unit 17159812 has been deleted by me,Can it be cleared and sent to others to work?

Why my english is so poor....
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Message 16516 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 5:17:18 UTC
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Message 16518 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 6:37:21 UTC

Hmm here we are, some errors here, much the same as everyone else's, but reported for completeness, the only difference to normal is the number of reporting boxes open for me to report the failure - there were 2 separate ones, where reporting one didn't affect the other - its very odd:


18/05/2006 07:18:51|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result TEST_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom001_1opd__504_49327_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))


18/05/2006 07:19:07|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result TEST_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom005_1opd__504_49355_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))


As far as I can see the first one here (hom001) was switched in & out of memory several times prior to falling over, the later (hom005) just went straight in, run for a while and then crashed. Most Odd.

Machine Details : https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=145422

If you also look at this machine : https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=193752 you will also see a number of other errors

Most confusing! I really do hope that someone can resolve this, it seems such a shame.
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Message 16523 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 7:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 16485.  


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Message 16525 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 8:39:21 UTC

This one was plainly moribund; couldn't launch graphics either:

Result ID 20606602
Name CASP_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom001_t287__507_26468_0
Workunit 17176092
Created 17 May 2006 12:03:30 UTC
Sent 17 May 2006 13:44:57 UTC
Received 18 May 2006 8:32:18 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Computing
Exit status -197 (0xffffff3b)
Computer ID 213209
Report deadline 31 May 2006 13:44:57 UTC
CPU time 628.875
stderr out

<core_client_version>5.2.13</core_client_version>
<message>aborted via GUI RPC
</message>
<stderr_txt>
# random seed: 2200513

</stderr_txt>

Validate state Invalid
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application version 5.16
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Message 16527 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 11:32:45 UTC

I have a question for those experiencing the "windows" error crash, where it asks you if you want to report it to MS. I've been seeing this error box only when the screensaver is running. Is anyone else also only seeing this error while the screensaver is running?

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Message 16528 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 11:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 16527.  

I have a question for those experiencing the "windows" error crash, where it asks you if you want to report it to MS. I've been seeing this error box only when the screensaver is running. Is anyone else also only seeing this error while the screensaver is running?

tony

You are not supposed to be seeing the windows error box at all. That is part of the problem. The explanation is complicated, but the short one is that Rosetta has error traps built in. These traps capture errors before windows ever gets a chance to see them. The application is set to turn off the ability to send errors to windows, but somehow that setting is getting changed. Since the error is not handled by the application the way it is supposed to, and windows does not know what to do with it, you get the "-107" type error.

As I said before, as long as the work unit generates even one model it is useful so that is not the issue. Rhiju and the other people at the project have this as their number one priority. But is would help if the people that are getting these errors could attach to RALPH, to help diagnose them. My sense is that it is related to the graphics, and I think that is where "mmciastro" is heading as well. The linkage seem unavoidable.

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Message 16529 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 12:23:45 UTC

Yes, that's where I'm headed. If others are seeing the same thing, then a pattern emerges. If we find an established pattern, it's easier to say "ok, then the problems NOT in these bits, but can be in x,y,or z". This will narrow the search for the bug and give the devs a location or two to spray the "raid" on, versus using up the whole can just spraying everything. LOL
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Message 16530 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 13:10:50 UTC

I am a masochist. Some one please shoot me and end my misery.

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Message 16531 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 13:14:16 UTC - in response to Message 16530.  

I am a masochist. Some one please shoot me and end my misery.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=20724565

Have you tried running work for a different project? Are those having errors too? If so, you tech guy missed something.
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Message 16532 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 13:25:49 UTC - in response to Message 16531.  
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I am a masochist. Some one please shoot me and end my misery.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=20724565

Have you tried running work for a different project? Are those having errors too? If so, you tech guy missed something.


Yes I tried other projects and in no one did I get an error. Rosetta is the only one that has produced errors for me.

Alas I don't like the other projects. That bugs me: The only project I would like to be a 100% doesn't like me. The others (for whom I don't care) ;like me. I know I am personalizing computers but I am kind of getting the feeling the Rosetta servers are diong a "Hal(sp)" on me. ( Weird music playing in the air and sights of a black monolith dancing over my room.)

Bummer

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Message 16534 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 13:39:40 UTC - in response to Message 16532.  

Wrong WU reported ARGHHHHHHH!!!! (Could the one reported be doomed to failed too? )

This is the one that failed https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=20720674
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Message 16538 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 14:18:58 UTC

I'm not sure this qualifies as a problem per se, and is not a very dire one regardless, but it seemed like it needed a mention. It might be helpful if wordwrap could be applied to the messages in the graphics/screensaver, as I'm currently being told "This work unit is working on a CASP 7 target! You are currently folding a sequence that has very close seque" before the message runs out of the window. I've seen this message twice now and must admit I'm very curious what the sequence is very close to, heh.
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Message 16541 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 15:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 16538.  

I'm not sure this qualifies as a problem per se, and is not a very dire one regardless, but it seemed like it needed a mention. It might be helpful if wordwrap could be applied to the messages in the graphics/screensaver, as I'm currently being told "This work unit is working on a CASP 7 target! You are currently folding a sequence that has very close seque" before the message runs out of the window. I've seen this message twice now and must admit I'm very curious what the sequence is very close to, heh.

I have brought this to the attention of the project team a number of times. They assure me they are going to edit the message to prevent the overrun you are seeing. The information is downloaded with the work unit, but it is created during work unit generation. it make take some time for the new format to "trickle" out to all your machines.
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Message 16542 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 15:43:52 UTC - in response to Message 16534.  
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Wrong WU reported ARGHHHHHHH!!!! (Could the one reported be doomed to failed too? )

This is the one that failed https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=20720674

Jose, (and others)

While only an educated guess, (i.e.. don't hold me to it) I think I have figured out what is going on with your system. The is a part of Windows XP known as DEP. This stands for Data Execution Prevention. This is part of the security system for Windows. It is designed to prevent programs like computer viruses from being executed form parts of the memory of your computer not designated for use by programs running on your system. If it sees one of these memory violations it will terminate the application, and open an error window to warn you of the problem, using the highly informative standard windows messages we are all familiar with.

There are two settings for DEP. One would only apply DEP control to elements of Windows itself. The second mode would apply DEP to everything running on your system. While the first mode is supposed to be the default setting, I believe your system may be set to the second mode. it probably should be set to the first (windows only) mode.

To check this (or change the settings) you would do the following. This is from the Windows "advice and information" page.


    1. On the My Computer icon right click with your mouse and choose Properties. (My Computer can be found on the desktop and/or the Start menu depending on how you have your Windows XP setup.)

    2. A small window will have appeared called: System Properties. Look for the "tab" along the top called Advanced, now click it.

    3. Now look for the section called Performance and click the button called Settings.

    4. You will now see a new window appear called Performance Options, click the tab along the top called Data Execution Prevention and you should get the same window view as the image below.




If your system is set as shown in the picture, then I am wrong and I need to keep looking. If however the button for "Turn DEP on for ALL programs and services ..." is selected, then I think you should change that setting to look like the picture, and try running Rosetta that way.

If this works, I should be able to get there by Saturday for the BBQ. Will Saturday work for you? If not I am back in the sacrificial pool.


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Message 16543 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 15:52:55 UTC

mine is set that way
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Message 16544 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 16:02:39 UTC - in response to Message 16542.  

My machine is also set that way. Guess again...
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Message 16548 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 16:42:37 UTC

Back to the sacrificial pool. :) Wait for instructions on the sacrifice.

You have given me an idea!!!!
I am going to o something against the proposed wisdom. First I will wait till the first Model for that unit is accepted. If I get a computing error let it be with at least a model on.


I am planing to change my signature to : I only regret I have a computer to sc##w over for Rosetta. Jose (aka Patrick Henry Rosetta)
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Message 16552 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 17:40:15 UTC

Not a bug, but a very minor cosmetic thing on the screensaver graphics:

Watching a WU (t283_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003_515_1574) graphics, on the top-right reactangle (the one displaying the "Low energy" protein structure), below the protein there appeared a suppressed (on y-scale) text "Accepted energy", barely visible, usually just a green "blur" below the protein image itself (in that rectangle).

Within minutes it was more suppressed and became less visible and faded away.

As I said, very insignificant, I just thought I'd mention it.
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Message 16553 - Posted: 18 May 2006, 17:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 16542.  
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If your system is set as shown in the picture, then I am wrong and I need to keep looking. If however the button for "Turn DEP on for ALL programs and services ..." is selected, then I think you should change that setting to look like the picture, and try running Rosetta that way.


I am going to go contrary to your advice. I am going to run Windows with the "Turn DEP on for ALL programs and services ..." selected. " and trust my Anti virus and my maintenance utilities ( or the guy that repairs my computer) to repair any damage.

My reasoning: For reasons only known to the Bill Gates, Windows may be deciding a program I am running should be blocked and when I run it along with the ever present Rosetta...the whole mess starts. See, I just noticed the comment in the last error message that I was running a Word 2003 document. I have checked my "records" and in at least 5 occasions I got computing errors, I had that document open. ( I am proof reading/editing and making comments to the computer repair's kid thesis). So lets see what happens now when I run that document again...without allowing Windows decide it may be a threat.

Argh watch my computer crash!!!!!






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