I'm not sure if this is a 5.16 problem or whether its something to do with my computer but sometimes when I click 'show graphics' and maximise the graphics window, the very bottom part with Accepted Energy and Accepted RMSD dissapear behind/below the taskbar (obviously a Windows machine).

Hi, I reported this back with version 5.12 in Ralph. I have pictures on several posts starting with this one. Later on a dev says he's going to try editting the text box. from that point on, the text in the text box doesn't line wrap but just runs off the screen to the right.

tony

Win 98SE system with 256 MB memory frequently processes WUs and shows no CPU time after 8 hours. eg.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=20659581

My other systems are all XP and don't exhibit this problem.

This is a known issue with Win 98. They all do it. The programers are trying to find a way around the issue.

Time for some good news. A simple reboot ( 89SE had some refgistry updates to to - perhaps BOINC install ? ) fixed the problem. Been functioning normally for 48 hours. !

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Rosetta Version 5.16 has been released. Please report any problems in this thread.

The servers may be slow until the new application is distributed.

Version 5.16 has the following features;

(1) We're continuing our efforts to reduce memory usage by typical workunits by rosetta@home. You can expect an even further reduction in memory footprint in our next update.

(2) We're testing a new science mode which uses the sequence and structural information from homologous proteins in an early phase of the simulation, but then returns to the target protein sequence in the final refinement phase. This mode appears to have a larger memory footprint than typical workunits, so we will only send out these jobs to computers that have >1Gb RAM.

(3) Also, we're trying a new feature where at the end of a simulation, Rosetta compares its fold to the predictions made by a dozen other algorithms. (Those predictions are sent to the clients in a compressed format.) Seeing consensus between different algorithms is usually a good sign that a prediction is right.

i dont know why it stopped working suddenly. I will restart my job

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Jose,

If I understand you correctly all you did to achieve this result was remove the firewall? This might be a very important piece of information if it works. Keep us posted.

Yes, I am working without a firewall.
I will report.
As I cross my toes in the hopes I don't jinx it. (Rosetta WU has been going 23 minutes without hitch)

I am going to the doctor. I hope I am in good mood when I return. And that Boinc Manager keeps me in good mood.

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Thanks Mod9 for the quick reply

But thats not what I noticed. The first 5.16 unit(s) I processed didn't show checkpoints every ~20min

The one I'm currently working on seems to behave nicely in the sugested way. Maybe it was a glitch in the first 5.16 units and nobody else noticed...

I'll keep an eye on it and report back if I notice anything unusual.

20min checkpoint intervals is fine with me. I can live with that.

Thor

This ist not really a bug, but it is bugging me:

The new work units seem to have only very few "saving points"

Which means, you put half an hour or even an hour of crunching in, shut down the computer for some reason and when you get back to runching, you have to start over again..

I had this happen at least three times, so I wonder if there is any possibility to put more save spots in the WUs for the crunchers who are not running 24/7 ???

Greets Thor[Free-DC]

You are already using the version that has had checkpoints added. Originally the checkpoints only were done at the end of a full model. Now they are every ~20 min.

There will be a better way to tell when checkpoints occur in future versions, but they cannot add more checkpoints. This is just a limitation of the nature of the work at this time. It should only be falling back to the last checkpoint, not starting over. Unless of course you are shutting down when the percent complete is 1.04x%, then it will start over form the start because it has not check-pointed yet.

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Hello!
I've got a problem with the graphics of the rosetta application.
Each time I let the graphics' window open more than a minute or so, the graphics stop and my screen go black.
Then the screen reopens again and I have to quickly close the graphics' window or it continues all the time.
Any idea of what might cause this "crash"?

Thank you.
Duanra

PS: my PC is a 1.73 GHz Intel Centrino with 1 Gb RAM, Windows XP SP2 and an ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics Card

I've been running Panda Titanium 2006 with its firewall (behind a router) - and I don't get 107 errors.

How about users of ZoneAlarm.. any others of them getting 107 errors?

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ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I came back the computer had gone nuts . Only after detaching from Rosetta and after trying unsuccesfully to abort the wu in an attempt to rescue the results . The WU is now a lost/phantom unit Was I able to regain some control over the computer.

ALAS T0285_FACONTACTS_hom001_521_10640_0 Had some decoys produced. Does this means Those decoys are lost?

Weirdness agaim: the exe files of Rosetta and Ralph were not to be found in the task manager I better check what was running on my computer while I was away that caused this.

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I've been running Panda Titanium 2006 with its firewall (behind a router) - and I don't get 107 errors.

How about users of ZoneAlarm.. any others of them getting 107 errors?

I run Zone Alarm on 3 Win XP systems and have no problems.

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LINUX problem:
I need help with this problem: while running Rosetta on Linux server with PentiumIV HyperThreading processor, Rosetta occasionally hangs in a very strange state: everything is running except Rosetta. Boinc is running. Application on other thread (Simap@home) is running. Just Rosetta isn't.

I had encountered this particular issue back in Jan/Feb-06 (also under Linux). Overall about 5-6 times.

BOINC log would show that boinc restarted Rosetta, but the Rosetta process would just stay "idle" (ps flags were "SN"=sleep,nice consuming no CPU time) for hours/days, until I manually killed it (I guess nowadays the "watchdog" thread will catch it).

I don't think Watchdog can catch it, because whole process is sleeping.. it was in this state for more than 2 days and watchdog didn't catch it.

At the time, I thought it was an issue with Rosetta+BOINC interaction, as I think it happened upon resuming a Rosetta WU (with leave-in-mem=yes). At the time, I also suspected some issue with the system's resources, as that PC had only 256MB RAM and I was running 6 BOINC projects and 100+ processes.

I also have leave-in-mem=yes .. and it can be something with memory, as this is primarily webserver and it has only 1GB RAM so it can be low on RAM from time to time..

It COULD have been a faulty WU, but when I ran that WU with rosetta commandline outside BOINC and it completed fine.

No it wasn't faulty WU. After restarting boinc, both WUs were completed successfully.

I have been having the same problems with my Dell SC420... The Rosetta application just sleeps (watching in BoincView I have a 0.00 cpu efficiency, and when I "top" I see the Rosetta apps in memory, but 0% cpu usage). I have gotten this quite frequently while running Rosetta on a Linux box, even through all the different versionings. Any ideas/suggestions from the Mods, Testers or Dev's?

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You are already using the version that has had checkpoints added. Originally the checkpoints only were done at the end of a full model. Now they are every ~20 min.

It's much better now and we loose less work with this shorter checkpoint interval. But if it is possible to insert checkpoints, why not respect the user settings?

Norbert

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You are already using the version that has had checkpoints added. Originally the checkpoints only were done at the end of a full model. Now they are every ~20 min.

It's much better now and we loose less work with this shorter checkpoint interval. But if it is possible to insert checkpoints, why not respect the user settings?

Norbert

What settings do you feel are not being respected by the current (improved) checkpointing?

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I'm taking up a (fictious) collection for Jose. I'm taking pledges. For every problem he posts, I'm asking each person to donate 5 cents. This way the more he posts information, the sooner we can buy him a new PC... but Jose, beware, we're not getting new monitor, keyboard, mouse nor printer, so don't include those in your next voodoo ceremony. :)

Hang in there Jose!

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What settings do you feel are not being respected by the current (improved) checkpointing?

I would interpret the setting "write to disk at most..." as: After a checkpoint wait for x seconds before a new checkpoint and then do it as soon as possible.

Norbert

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I think you ought to think about a wristpad/mousepad too! That way he doesn't do quite as much damage pounding his head/hands on the desk <grin>.

Jose, just remember, it doesn't have to cooperate ... its a machine!

I'm taking up a (fictious) collection for Jose. I'm taking pledges. For every problem he posts, I'm asking each person to donate 5 cents. This way the more he posts information, the sooner we can buy him a new PC... but Jose, beware, we're not getting new monitor, keyboard, mouse nor printer, so don't include those in your next voodoo ceremony. :)

Hang in there Jose!

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I'm taking up a (fictitious) collection for Jose. I'm taking pledges. For every problem he posts, I'm asking each person to donate 5 cents. This way the more he posts information, the sooner we can buy him a new PC... but Jose, beware, we're not getting new monitor, keyboard, mouse nor printer, so don't include those in your next voodoo ceremony. :)

Hang in there Jose!

I was able to track the offending application. ARGH a maintenance application run amok.

Hey, let's face it without me posting my weird problems and my non standard attempts at solving them this thread would be boring.

I think my computer should be inducted in the Rosetta@Home Hall of Fame. Either that or a citation in the next scientific paper by Dr Baker and the team would be nice. :)

Please remember , that as the "minus inter pares " of my team I am in charge of stat reporting and non-traditional credit production methods, so all voodoo is reserved for that and not for my personal gain.

But, should you want, I can send you the specs for the computation system of my dreams. :) It will take a lot of 5 cents. LOL LOL LOL

As to the next voodoo ceremony, it may involve a moderator or a poster being sacrificed to the team production deities (Specifically the 500,000 Credit a Day deity) . Numero 9 is in the sacrificial pool; Want to join him? LOL LOL LOL LOL

Okies, the pain killers are working. I better go to bed.

:)

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I think you ought to think about a wristpad/mousepad too! That way he doesn't do quite as much damage pounding his head/hands on the desk <grin>.

Jose, just remember, it doesn't have to cooperate ... its a machine!

I'm taking up a (fictious) collection for Jose. I'm taking pledges. For every problem he posts, I'm asking each person to donate 5 cents. This way the more he posts information, the sooner we can buy him a new PC... but Jose, beware, we're not getting new monitor, keyboard, mouse nor printer, so don't include those in your next voodoo ceremony. :)

Hang in there Jose!

Tall guys make good candidates for the sacrificial pool. Te he te he :)

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This and no other is the root from which a Tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
Plato