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Message 16040 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:44:50 UTC - in response to Message 16038.  
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Jean Paul, I've downloaded the 5.13 app, changed it's name to a text file, and zipped it. It's just under 3meg. How big's your mail box?


No prob with a 3 meg file. You have my email?


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Message 16041 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:46:42 UTC - in response to Message 16032.  

What happens if you manually download the .exe from https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/ and copy it into BOINC's projects/*rosetta directory?

if he can download it that should work.


I'm hitting my head on the desk here. I just downloaded firefox.exe with no pron but i still can't get rosetta. I when to the site you guys give but no luck. even after changing my MTU to 1464 still no luck. so back to square one i gues

Are you saying you can't manually download the application?



I can testify that if you are able to download the application from the site (I do regularly) you can then just put it in the rosetta project folder where it should be. You can even place it there while if it's still downloading in BOINC. It will either see it's complete and finish or say already there and skip file (if you where not already downloading it)
I know as I do it for my computer since I'm on dial-up, I download it in advance knowing that when my current tasks are finishe it'll try to download on all of the computer, this save me a heep of time connected :-)


But it looks like all the transfers are failing near the end. oculd it be they are actually getting to 100% but boincmanager doesn't update regularly enough for you to see it. May be it's related to my large file upload problem through a proxy It completes but the communication at the end (100%) fails the upload with 'http error' or 'http internal server error'

You may want to do a detailed transfer log (with boinc 5.4.9) http://boinc.berkeley.edu/client_msgs.php try then all :-) warning the log files make complicated reading
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Message 16042 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:47:36 UTC - in response to Message 16039.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

From what i can tell on this side. This is a server prob. It must be timming out to restrick download.


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Message 16044 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:49:28 UTC

and ust in case this is the direct file download
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/rosetta_5.13_windows_intelx86.exe

but if your desperate to get crunching you may want to try using http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download.htm a download manager.
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Message 16045 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:50:00 UTC - in response to Message 16042.  
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Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

From what i can tell on this side. This is a server prob. It must be timming out to restrick download.

I'm leaning that way myself, expecially since others are reporting it (to a limited extent). It would be easier all around if you could copy it from one puter and put it on the other. If I email it to you you'll have to unzip, then rename.

You can email me at [deleted]. How familiar are you with this operation. Do you need full instructions?

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Message 16046 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:51:41 UTC - in response to Message 16039.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.
no no no I just tried predictor to see if it work and it does but no rosetta yet.


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Message 16047 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 16045.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

From what i can tell on this side. This is a server prob. It must be timming out to restrick download.

I'm leaning that way myself, expecially since others are reporting it (to a limited extent). It would be easier all around if you could copy it from one puter and put it on the other. If I email it to you you'll have to unzip, then rename.

You can email me at mmciastro at gmail dot com. How familiar are you with this operation. Do you need full instructions?

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Perfect just sent you a email if you dont get it let me know.


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Message 16048 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 16047.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

From what i can tell on this side. This is a server prob. It must be timming out to restrick download.

I'm leaning that way myself, expecially since others are reporting it (to a limited extent). It would be easier all around if you could copy it from one puter and put it on the other. If I email it to you you'll have to unzip, then rename.

You can email me at mmciastro at gmail dot com. How familiar are you with this operation. Do you need full instructions?

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Perfect just sent you a email if you dont get it let me know.

Just received your email i'll try to attach to project and let you knoe. just have to remane the file to eze right?


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Message 16049 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:18:11 UTC - in response to Message 16048.  
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[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7,152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder
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Message 16050 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:20:26 UTC - in response to Message 16049.  

[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7.152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder

lol ok man no prob i've been working on this so long that i can't type anymore.

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Message 16051 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:22:46 UTC - in response to Message 16049.  

[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7,152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder
Will have to waite a little server not sending the project .


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Message 16058 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 15:28:54 UTC - in response to Message 16049.  

[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7,152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder
Youre the nman Tony it's working.
Cool now you can go to the race an let me know how it finish because i can't get it here.
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Message 16060 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 15:32:03 UTC - in response to Message 16058.  

[Youre the nman Tony it's working.
Cool now you can go to the race an let me know how it finish because i can't get it here.
-:)

<wiping sweat from brow> man I was worried, that some little error was going to creep in and make this not work. Glad to hear it, now if Rosetta can just figure out why they're dropping connections to people in your condition, we won't have to do this for every new app that comes out.

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Message 16061 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 15:35:35 UTC - in response to Message 16060.  

[Youre the nman Tony it's working.
Cool now you can go to the race an let me know how it finish because i can't get it here.
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<wiping sweat from brow> man I was worried, that some little error was going to creep in and make this not work. Glad to hear it, now if Rosetta can just figure out why they're dropping connections to people in your condition, we won't have to do this for every new app that comes out.

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lolllll i hope you had fun because i did.lol

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Message 16076 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 17:18:24 UTC

Thanks for the link to manually download the file(rosetta_5.13_i686-pc-linux-gnu). I tried downloading the file with opera. Unfortunately it dies at exactly the same point (actual size of incomplete file is 9,293,312). This is exactly the size downloaded using boinc. The file is supposed to be 9,598,436 correct?

Ralph has also tried to download today. I'm getting work units but the file rosetta_beta_5.13_i686-pc-linux-gnu is dying at 96.82% 8.86/9.15. Actual file size for this is 9,293,547. (note it is named beta_5.13, the one for rosetta isn't beta). Otherwise the behavior and error messages are exactly the same.

I'll keep an eye on this thread, but I'm going to stick with world grid for now. I can't think of what it could be on my end that could cause this, but I'm not a networking guru either. I may try lhc again in the near future to see if I still have the problem there as well, but my poor dial-up connection has had enough of a work out for the time being :)

Anyway if my problem is not related to jean-paul's, after all, I'm sorry for confusing the issue.
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Message 16081 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 18:34:52 UTC

Perhaps your ISP is trying to "protect" you by halting the download of any file containing a suspicious string of bytes. These strings are from nasty programs, but there are now so many of them that sometimes one of them will be in an innocent program (a false positive). The download would be stopped at the point where the string is.

If this is the case, it may be possible to turn the "protection" on and off. Many ISPs will have an "account management" section on their website.
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Message 16087 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 19:53:33 UTC - in response to Message 16046.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.
no no no I just tried predictor to see if it work and it does but no rosetta yet.


This could also be a result of the load on the Rosetta server. This always happens for a while after a new software release. Right now we have just released a new application version, a lot of new work unit types, and a lot of new people are attaching. It could be that the server connections are timing out after a certain period of time. How fast is your connection?

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Message 16117 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 0:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 16087.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.
no no no I just tried predictor to see if it work and it does but no rosetta yet.


This could also be a result of the load on the Rosetta server. This always happens for a while after a new software release. Right now we have just released a new application version, a lot of new work unit types, and a lot of new people are attaching. It could be that the server connections are timing out after a certain period of time. How fast is your connection?

This is been going on for 2 week man i dont think this is tha cause

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Message 16120 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 1:08:46 UTC - in response to Message 16117.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.
no no no I just tried predictor to see if it work and it does but no rosetta yet.


This could also be a result of the load on the Rosetta server. This always happens for a while after a new software release. Right now we have just released a new application version, a lot of new work unit types, and a lot of new people are attaching. It could be that the server connections are timing out after a certain period of time. How fast is your connection?

This is been going on for 2 week man i dont think this is tha cause

Well in the last two weeks, there have been 4 software releases. There have also been at least 6 different kind of work units. It takes about 4 days for the servers to normalize after a software release.

But lets see if we can get you going another way. If I understand all this correctly you have another system that is running Rosetta 5.13. If that is the case you can put a copy of that application exe in the BOINC files folder on your system as others have described and that will get it going. But that is just a patch for the communications issue. For some reason BOINC is timing out. While I have seen this before, it is not a common problem, and it is usually one of three things, something at the ISP, something in the communications settings on the computer, or the server timing out on slower connections when it is busy.

Since you have loaded applications from other project we will assume it is not your computer. That leaves the Rosetta server, and your ISP. At present I am only aware of three people having similar issues. This makes me think it is something related to the ISP. It could be a file size limit, or a connection time issue. Connection time would be related to speed.

What I would like to do is get you going somehow and see if you have any problems with some of the larger Work units currently being sent out. I know the smaller ones were not a problem for you. Did you have any luck getting the application via e-mail?

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Message 16123 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 1:16:18 UTC
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Mod9, he IS working again, I emailed him the Rosetta app, and he used that. He could download the app from other projects, but no matter when he tried or how (either manually downloading from site, or automatically during attachment), he couldn't get the app file downloaded from Rosetta. He can download all the other stuff from Rosetta, but not the LARGE file. He's was getting connection dropped or cut off. There are a few reports of NO APP file downloading. I am leaning toward the problem being on Rosettas server/file handler end. Probably in how it negotiates a transaction, some time limit or something.

During overloaded connections you'd see 400, 500, 106, and 182 errors reported. This didn't occur for JP.
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