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Message 106879 - Posted: 8 Sep 2022, 7:17:51 UTC
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Ralph@Home is down many days.
I hope they closed the project, 'cause it was a waste of electricity
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Message 106881 - Posted: 8 Sep 2022, 12:01:32 UTC - in response to Message 106879.  

And the bigger question is what happens here after they run out of work in a couple of weeks.
Either they come up with something new, or it is all over.
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Message 106888 - Posted: 9 Sep 2022, 23:24:42 UTC - in response to Message 106881.  
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And the bigger question is what happens here after they run out of work in a couple of weeks.
At the present rate, just under two days.



Either they come up with something new, or it is all over.
There's still the occasional batch of Rosetta 4.20 work that comes out, but i've considered the project over ever since they released the half-baked Python Tasks and application and stopped producing any meaningful amount of Rosetta 4.20 work.
And apart from a couple of changes after months of people posting about them, they haven't made any attempt to fully fix those issues they just tweaked (initial HDD & RAM requirements even though actual use is much lower), much less the other issues that people have posted about (such as disk writes & zombie Tasks), not to mention systems that have been working OK being randomly black listed with no idea of what those errors were or how many occurred to result in the black listing & no notification of the black listing so the only way people find out is if they look at their account & find one of their systems hasn't done any Python work for a few days (or weeks or longer), yet other systems producing mostly errors don't get blacklisted.
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Message 106901 - Posted: 10 Sep 2022, 13:53:40 UTC - in response to Message 106881.  

And the bigger question is what happens here after they run out of work in a couple of weeks.
Either they come up with something new, or it is all over.


I don't think so.
There is a lot of work to do.
But seems that admins are satisfied of this app, without the will to update/optimized/introduce new features, etc.
And it's strange, cause the rosetta code is constantly updated
Also Foldit is constantly updated....
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Message 106902 - Posted: 10 Sep 2022, 14:14:33 UTC - in response to Message 106901.  

And it's strange, cause the rosetta code is constantly updated
Also Foldit is constantly updated....

Python is just the project of a lone researcher. He probably does not have much support. We don't know what data they are crunching; it may be a fixed set.
And once he/she completes the experiment, there may be no more need to continue the project.

It is possible that they will achieve such a useful result that they decide to continue though.
In that case, I would expect them to use an updated python version with some fixes.
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Message 106903 - Posted: 10 Sep 2022, 15:01:18 UTC - in response to Message 106901.  

And the bigger question is what happens here after they run out of work in a couple of weeks.
Either they come up with something new, or it is all over.


I don't think so.
There is a lot of work to do.

But seems that admins are satisfied of this app, without the will to update/optimized/introduce new features, etc.
And it's strange, cause the rosetta code is constantly updated
Also Foldit is constantly updated....


They dropped a single lump of 2.5m Python WUs and have not added any since. We’re now down below 12k and will probably run out within a week.

In the absence of new Python work, given how sparse the 4.20 jobs have been and given that most of the new work is being done internally I’m not seeing a lot of work for us to do.
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Message 106904 - Posted: 11 Sep 2022, 9:32:10 UTC

hi, just got some rb tasks ^^
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Message 106912 - Posted: 12 Sep 2022, 19:15:35 UTC - in response to Message 106904.  

Total queued jobs: 0

The End is Near.
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Message 106914 - Posted: 12 Sep 2022, 21:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 106912.  

Total queued jobs: 0

The End is Near.
Yet "Tasks ready to send" shows 3972 (1hr 40min later than the Total queued jobs time stamp).
But either way, the Pythons are almost finished (apart for the resends for a week or two).

Then it'll just be the occasional mini dump of Rosetta 4.20 Tasks and their resends.
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Message 106934 - Posted: 17 Sep 2022, 8:04:08 UTC - in response to Message 106901.  

There is a lot of work to do.


I want to complete my sentence:
There is a lot of work to do, but it will be done by AI (and not our pcs)
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Message 107604 - Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 11:59:45 UTC

Is back online!
Is back online!!
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Message 107606 - Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 13:08:42 UTC - in response to Message 107604.  

Is back online!
Is back online!!


And, immediately, SPAM on forums :-(
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Message 107609 - Posted: 28 Oct 2022, 23:50:30 UTC - in response to Message 107606.  

Is back online!
Is back online!!


And, immediately, SPAM on forums :-(

You are looking at it the wrong way
This is an commercial advertising site and they haven't found a way to keep us from talking a load of boinc all over it , yet .
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Message 107675 - Posted: 5 Nov 2022, 16:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 107609.  

You are looking at it the wrong way
This is an commercial advertising site and they haven't found a way to keep us from talking a load of boinc all over it , yet .


:-))

By the way, a little batch of test was released some days ago
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Message 108175 - Posted: 14 Mar 2023, 11:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 107675.  
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They published a new version of the app for Windows and Linux (4.23)
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Message 108177 - Posted: 15 Mar 2023, 6:39:43 UTC - in response to Message 108175.  

They published a new version of the app for Windows and Linux (4.23)
Any details on what has been added/removed/changed?
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Message 108178 - Posted: 15 Mar 2023, 8:55:42 UTC - in response to Message 108177.  

They published a new version of the app for Windows and Linux (4.23)
Any details on what has been added/removed/changed?


Obviously, NO
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Message 108179 - Posted: 16 Mar 2023, 4:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 108178.  

They published a new version of the app for Windows and Linux (4.23)
Any details on what has been added/removed/changed?


Obviously, NO
Looks like they have updated the Ralph main page since then.
Rosetta version 4.23 released for testing
The Rosetta application has been updated to include a protocol named GALigandDock that will be used to screen an ultra-large library of small molecules for drug discovery. Please report any issue in the discussion thread here:

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Message 108180 - Posted: 16 Mar 2023, 9:43:58 UTC - in response to Message 108179.  

Looks like they have updated the Ralph main page since then.
Rosetta version 4.23 released for testing
The Rosetta application has been updated to include a protocol named GALigandDock that will be used to screen an ultra-large library of small molecules for drug discovery. Please report any issue in the discussion thread here:


Great.
But, up to now, no wus to test....
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Message 108182 - Posted: 17 Mar 2023, 6:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 108180.  

Great.
But, up to now, no wus to test....
Yeah, rather difficult to test an application without any data to process...
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